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Unlocking the Mysteries of Consciousness: Intuition Insights, Non-Human Sentience, and Sound Healing Pathways
What if your instincts could predict the future? We're delving into the complex world of consciousness with hosts Louis, Keny and Tom. Together, we explore consciousness as an integral part of our identity that transcends the physical confines of the brain. Throughout this captivating episode, we unveil the five levels of consciousness—primal, reactive, willful, mindful intellectual, and intuitive—through intriguing real-life anecdotes, such as instances where gut feelings have serendipitously avoided danger. Our discussions challenge the conventional understanding of instincts, questioning whether they might be a form of intuition or even psychic abilities.
Our journey takes us further into the relationship between consciousness and the brain, guided by theories like Integrated Information Theory and Predictive Processing. We ponder the possibility of non-human consciousness, considering animals and AI systems as potential sentient entities. With a curious lens, we also explore near-death experiences, reincarnation, and cultural representations in films like "Cocoon," which challenge the finality of death and suggest consciousness might exist beyond our earthly life. We traverse the boundaries of existence, questioning what might lie beyond and offering listeners a chance to rethink their understanding of life and death.
Finally, we embark on a fascinating exploration of intuition, meditation, and sound frequencies as pathways to a deeper connection with consciousness. By sharing personal experiences and practical tips, we highlight how our brains might act as antennas to other dimensions and how meditation and sound frequencies, like 528 Hz, can enhance relaxation and spiritual enlightenment. From ancient practices to modern meditative tools, we discuss how reconnecting with our intuitive abilities can enrich our daily lives and provide a respite from the fast-paced demands of today's world. Join us as we unravel these mysteries and encourage you to tap into your consciousness and discover the hidden depths within.
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Welcome to Common Crawford and the Jersey Guy. I'm Luis, here with Kenny and with Tom, the Jersey Guy. You guys all know him.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Jersey, guy, you guys.
Speaker 2:Too funny.
Speaker 1:So what's up, gentlemen?
Speaker 2:Everybody good, everybody chilling, everybody groovy. It's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Groovy man, groovy. Yes, sir, are you one with your consciousness?
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you.
Speaker 2:I am. Are you, tom? What is consciousness? Gosh, you had to wait for him to answer. You didn't give me a chance to answer. Are you good with your consciousness? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know what day is it, uh yeah, uh-huh no um, yeah, consciousness.
Speaker 2:I could say a lot about that so if you guys didn't notice already, that's going to be our topic today, so we'll do this. The oxford living dictionary defines consciousness as the state of being aware and responsive to one's surroundings, a person's awareness or perception of something and the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
Speaker 3:Nice, yeah but when you think about consciousness, isn't it kind of who we are? We are our consciousness. That is who we are exactly we're our consciousness, that is who we are. Exactly, we're not our brain, we're our consciousness.
Speaker 1:We're our consciousness. We're our consciousness, right there it is.
Speaker 2:Yup, that is Because we're in control, right, so dig it. We should be anyway. Five levels of consciousness, oh snap Right. Primal, reactive, willful intellectual, mindful intellectual and intuitive. Okay, so now. So let's say, let's say the first one was um, primal. So primal would be like, uh, when you're um, if you're walking somewhere, you know you can't see, but you feel like something's not right, right, you know you're not sure what it is you have that gut feeling.
Speaker 2:Thank you, that's a good. I've been thinking about gut feeling, absolutely, but that was that you know that's the primal. I'm gonna assume that was that you know that's the primal. I'm going to assume that's your instincts kicking in. Right, that's the defensive mode. Right, you know your primal like.
Speaker 1:Right About to break out some karate.
Speaker 2:Get on your ass, hell yeah, barney Fife, like that, barney Fife, have you had that? Do you have those?
Speaker 1:What when I have something I don't feel right?
Speaker 2:Now here it is that we're older, so it's not like we're kids anymore that we're hanging out in places.
Speaker 1:we're not supposed to be. I had it when I was younger too, though.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what I was going to say Are you talking like precognition?
Speaker 1:No, no, it just does not feel right here. Something is off.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's an intuition, it's just that gut feeling that something's not cool for steak.
Speaker 1:You know what I think? I'm going to go.
Speaker 2:I'm not feeling it. Then you come back and find out, and it's not so much a premonition, but later on, well, depending on who you speak to, I guess you didn't ignore it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't go, or that you turn around and they say, like you left early to go somewhere and five minutes behind you a truck crashed so there was a big accident on the highway. Matter of fact, I'll give you one. So my little side gig is, like you guys know, I do a two o'clock in the morning run for the job and on the way I didn't stop off. I went a different way and I didn't take it didn't take that long to stop and as I come back down, as I'm coming back home, there was a truck that was pulling um, it was a car truck, car carrier and a car fell off of the trailer and jumped the median into oncoming traffic.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:If I would have stopped. I'm like I'm going to go this way. I don't feel like going that way. I went the other way. It got me there a little bit quicker when I came back down, something happened. Yeah, so is that primal? Is that you know?
Speaker 1:No, I think it is. I think that's, that's a consciousness. You know what I'm? Gonna go this way tonight because I always go that way. Yeah, whatever it was made, you go the other way, at least the way I look at it.
Speaker 3:So we're looking at it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, oh yeah, you're calling it, though, are you calling it like? Is it like intuition?
Speaker 3:it is okay, not intuition, like there's like like a psychic kind of thing going right well, listen, okay, look at animals
Speaker 3:we're all in touch with it. I think I think you know it's kind of uh, I know I'm gonna start going a little far out there in the conversation with some people, but I think that everyone does have, on a sense, a psychic ability. I think there's more to our consciousness than we think there is. In fact, I was we were talking earlier I was saying we should check out. There's a really cool podcast to check out called the telepathy tapes.
Speaker 3:Right, really interesting stuff okay I mean mind-blowing stuff, stuff that like sounds like out of a sci-fi movie but it's actually real and like it's like insane stuff.
Speaker 1:You have to check that out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know it's, it follows these um non, I'm sorry, I I will get back to the conversation. I bet these, um, they're non-speaking, um autistic people that use us uh like a speller board or something, uh to communicate Right, um and like they're reading their parents' minds and stuff like that Shut up it's crazy Like like there's what.
Speaker 3:So that's a whole different level of cards, and like the behind the kid's head and like he's or he's learned to talk one of them and he would be like you know, ball, yeah. Or like 13 or whatever or seven whatever she was holding. Yeah see that's freaking, or it might have been on a spelling board or one of those. Yeah, touch things but I forget that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's like yeah, but then you said that's a level of consciousness. What were you going to say lou also? They talk about even dogs.
Speaker 1:Oh sorry, I'm saying yeah well, what I was going to say about was look the way I look at it. Real quick, hold that thought yeah, it's animals. When you look at animals, you ever see when they like, follow, watch animals and they're in the wilderness. And all of a sudden they just yeah, just why do they already, they like?
Speaker 3:they know something they like at once turn their head and they look jump. Why do all birds move at once?
Speaker 1:They turn their head and they look in an area and you're pretty much what they know. Right, you didn't make any noise, they just picked it up. They knew something was there.
Speaker 3:Why do all birds move at the same time, do you?
Speaker 1:think that they're that's crazy. When that happens Not all the time, sometimes they but when they're all together, they all move in a rhythm.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. It's crazy, we'll hang out.
Speaker 3:That's the yin game but here's the other thing though. So oh, no, no, yeah, finish it up. So that, on that, in that they they talk about some of the stuff with dogs and, like they, they did this experiment, they talked about some of the experiment that had done in the past where, like, people had these dogs right and they had the cameras on them, like dog cameras or whatever, and as, as soon as the owner would like or their companion, human companion would leave work, the dog would perk up and start waiting at the door for them and if they got called back to work, the dog would go lay down. The second they would leave for work, the dog would get up and say no shit they think there's a psychic connection that people are having.
Speaker 1:I could believe that it's true, Because Tanya says when it's a certain time of the day, they don't know what time it is.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But they know, for whatever reason it gets to a certain point, she says they were already getting antsy. Like I'll be texting her or whatever.
Speaker 3:I guarantee it's as soon as you start leaving.
Speaker 1:They already know that you're on your way home.
Speaker 3:Your intention of going home. Once your mind is in the intention of going home, that's when you're leaving. I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's wild Consciousness.
Speaker 2:So let me read this real quick.
Speaker 1:Consciousness appears to be closely tied to the brain's activity, particularly in the cerebral cortex and the thalamus. Specific brain states, like those during weekfulness, dreaming and deep sleep, show measurable differences in neural activity. Neural networks, particularly in this default mode, network dmn, seem to play a role in the self or refer to referential thought. It's pretty cool. And then there's levels of consciousness, like you were saying theories of consciousness.
Speaker 1:You know there's a um but um. Let's see theories of consciousness. Integrated information theory proposes the consciousness depends on the amount of information integrated by a system okay okay, what do you think?
Speaker 2:of that, does that? Yeah? So again, it's how much information you're getting to think. Know, be aware of that, those surroundings. So, uh, example for me to be aware of your surroundings. I know for me growing up in the city there was a certain amount of awareness that I had taking the subway late at night.
Speaker 1:You knew not to stand near the freaking platform At the end of the platform.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, that's exactly what it is. You knew to stand a certain way, to hold on a certain way, to do certain things. You had your eyes on everything else. You had your head on a swivel Again. Is that what we said before? For just knowing.
Speaker 3:Or precognition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a precognition, I guess, you know, just to have that idea, that thought, that feeling.
Speaker 1:Your instinct's coming naturally and without you having to try to force it or anything. But hang on, let me read this real quick. Predictive processing suggests consciousness involves the brain creating and updating predictions. A force or anything? But hang on, let me read this real quick. Uh, productive predictive processing suggests consciousness involves the brain creating and updating predictions about the environment. Right, and here we go. Artificial and non-human consciousness, animals and artificial systems exhibit behaviors that hint at varying degrees of consciousness, challenging us to define it more clearly. Yeah, it's interesting stuff. Yeah, so they definitely know there's something going on there.
Speaker 2:Challenging us to define it more clearly yeah, it's interesting stuff, man, yeah.
Speaker 1:So they definitely know there's something going on there. Right, there's definitely something more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, think about it. When you think about the stuff, like people who have near-death experiences, that has to do with some consciousness to some point. Right, you left your body.
Speaker 3:You're now you know, I think that's why some people who've had near-death experiences have actually are like now mediums. There's someone I follow on Instagram that I know.
Speaker 1:Put him on ours yeah.
Speaker 3:But that is a medium and she had like a near-death experience and now she's like a medium. So, um, I think that it has something to do with your like consciousness leaving your body or your soul.
Speaker 1:This is just a vessel for now, for this or whatever you want to till the next step. Right, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3:Right, there's enough if you think that I have my own beliefs, but yeah, I believe there's something after this.
Speaker 1:It it has nothing to do for me, for ideology or anything like that. No, no, no, as far as what I think. Right, it's the next level. You're done. This is a vessel. When time is done, you go on to the next step. And whatever that is we'll figure that out when we get there.
Speaker 3:I think our consciousness existed before our life, in our life and after our life.
Speaker 2:Say that again I, our consciousness I think, yeah, yeah, my personal belief is right obviously I'm not an atheist anymore. Yeah, well, you're not.
Speaker 3:If I believe in that, yeah right, I mean I think our consciousness existed before where we are now, in the material world and then we die and then it goes out of it again wherever we were before right, so that there was there was a movie okay so not like that's interesting. Like our life started when we were born like right, yeah, right so you're saying that we may have had more than one life? Yeah, like reincarnation, reincarnation but if we, if we want to, right, so you think it's up to us?
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want to go back in, oh, okay, so we have the power. Put me back in.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, Put me back in, coach. This is the world to experience life Well all right.
Speaker 2:So remember, I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Cocoon. I know you've seen it, I've seen. I guess it was like I'll ruin it because nobody's going to really watch that shit anyways, but at the end of the movie, when they died, it was that consciousness that left the body and went into like a UFO. You know what I'm saying. Going by what you're saying, a before, during and after you know what I'm saying. So that they're a few hundred years old and they might be going to the next planet.
Speaker 1:Someone else's version of what they think, but everybody years old and you know they might be going to the next planet. That's someone else's version of what they you know, they think you know, but everybody has that version right when you think about it. So it's, but it's cool. You know it's definitely something there it's. You know they're finding out more and more and now, because of technology and everything, they're able to do a lot of different things. You know, as far as the consciousness, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, to find, like you said, it's Listen, when I was a kid and I thought, when someone passed away and I said it can't be just six feet done you're out and then it's over. I'm like that just didn't seem right to me, and then I would read books and I would you know Life After Death and things like that and different other things, and then, of course, made me into the geek I am.
Speaker 1:So I like to listen to all that stuff when it comes to biblical or the Dead Sea Scrolls or anything like that, because it's interesting and it's educational, because it gives you an idea of what people are at the time.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely so. I think that's where my head is at. It's definitely, if it's part of the universe, right, because they say we're connected to the universe. They say that's where we came from. You know, right, our makeup is basically stars.
Speaker 2:Right, yes, exactly you know. So I mean hey, I mean think about it, hello, but we all have that.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't it be nice, though, to make sure that, when you got to wherever you were going, you knew who you were, and it wasn't like you started over again and then you didn't know like you did it like four or five times already. Yeah, you know, that's that. That's the thing again. This is.
Speaker 2:It's funny, you say that because she's doing I watch too many, I watch too many of those sci-fi shows and that was the thing that the um, the people. They lived forever and they were just kind of like reborn in different bodies and they were like they ended up remembering later on. It wasn't like when they came to, when they were conscious, they were like what, who am I, what am I doing? And they had to wait for those people to grow up. Most of the time they remembered when they were young.
Speaker 1:That's weird.
Speaker 2:And then others. It was like you know, in their mid-teens and stuff. And then they remembered like all right, cool, you got to come with us. Now Like all right, let's go, and they were fighting crime and shit. You know what I mean? Remember, think, see things that reminds us of something that we may not have actually gone to and or done Deja vu. And now it's deja vu because we were there before in this particular life, or was it because we were there at another life?
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I don't know if you remember this, but this is like a superstition kind of thing, but I remember growing up with.
Speaker 2:I said to myself oh, I just got to chill.
Speaker 1:And I was like someone stepped on your grave.
Speaker 2:Somebody walked on your grave. Somebody walked on your grave.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you imagine that and you're like, wow, yeah, that's pretty deep, I never understood that I was like wait, is this I already happened already, like, in other words, I'm already dead, but this is just me catching up, or whatever, or, it's a repeat like a repeat of whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 3:Or did someone step on my grave and I'm dead in a different?
Speaker 1:In a different timeline In a different timeline or dimension, right, but that's the whole shit. Holy Christ, look at where this is going, right, it's crazy. That's the consciousness.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I had said it to you guys that you, they say that when you're dreaming, you're dreaming about the other spirits and the ghosts or what have you that you've come across and didn't know consciously that you came across them. In your subconscious you saw them. So then you know all that is people from another universe Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay. So what is consciousness exactly? We still lack definite explanation for the consciousness and why subjective experiences exist. Known as the hard problem of consciousness, the issue explores why, how brain processes result in inner experiences. So how does consciousness arise? You know, it's like there's so much to it, man.
Speaker 2:It's like it's that one right you know, we don't know, you know, we're all on our assumption right now.
Speaker 1:We're definitely getting but see, they definitely have more information about it, but here's this consciousness exists outside the brain, but it's.
Speaker 2:That's what we're saying we're saying it does, but it's a hypothesis, hypothesis my yes this guy because, think about it, it's what exactly is it? How are we actually dealing with it? Is it like we said? Is it because we lived another life? You know, if we are reincarnated, you know from anywhere and or somewhere else, you know I'm saying and, and how many movies haven't we seen that? You know it, it's.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to go by a movie, I'm just going to say somebody else's view of what they think.
Speaker 2:But then my point is that when we listen to a lot of these things or we read them, we take from it what we want and what we're going to believe.
Speaker 1:So that's why I say the movies, because but I'm reading off of something that didn't come solely from a movie. It's from ChatGPT I, something that didn't come with you probably for a movie. It's from chat gpd, I'm right. You know, I'm putting in questions and asking it and I'm trying to find out. Yeah, so let's just, for instance, right. Some argue for non-materialistic views, such as consciousness being fundamental to the universe. Others debate whatever consciousness could exist independently or of a biological substrate, as an AI or quantum theories. Why are we conscious? From an evolutionary standpoint, it's unclear why subjective experiences involve, as opposed to merely, automated, unconsciousness processing. So, in other words, you're just, you're already programmed to do that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:What do you think?
Speaker 2:That would be. I mean, depending on how I hear it, I think it's outside the body.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, for sure. I definitely think it's big of that. I think we're all connected in some way or another. You know, I think if we were less dependent on a lot of things that we have Right, we probably be more in tune with a lot of that stuff versus how we are because of technology and job and family. And you know, you're not really. You got a lot going on but when we? But you do, kind of you are, if you're in tune with that stuff, you kind of have those moments.
Speaker 2:But then what about when they speak on what? Uh, you're in tune with that stuff. You kind of have those moments. But then what about when they speak on what people humanity was before TV and social media and all that other stuff? I don't ever remember hearing anything about people being that kind of in tune with one another, anything super different than what we do now. So like I know that when we're painting a room together, that you know you're going to cut in and I know where you are and we never bump into each other and we get the room painted. I know that if we're going to go driving, that you know you're following me or whatever, that you know we're both going to get on the highway and we're going to, you know, kick it up to 70, 75. And then you know you're turning off and I'm going straight.
Speaker 1:But like we just dip through traffic at, you know, right together, right, like you know, I'm saying it's, it's. The point is that you know there's different.
Speaker 2:Uh, I guess links, yeah, yeah, pretty much yeah, but you know different links to everybody. You know what I'm saying to, to, and this is us on social media. So then, if somebody was part of a tribe or a village or whatever, did they know feel each other when they were outside hunting?
Speaker 1:You know yo, there's trouble coming, listen don't you get that crazy when your instincts kick in? We were just saying it earlier. I think that has something to do with it. You know, you're not just doing it, you feel something.
Speaker 3:I think it's precognition.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel something.
Speaker 3:Something's not right Something's off in the air.
Speaker 1:It could be whatever it is, whatever triggers it or whatever your instincts kick right. Hopefully your instincts don't kick in too, late and you're out of there or whatever's going on, you know, for whatever reason, but I definitely think it's. You're right.
Speaker 3:We don't understand it exactly yet but hopefully in time they'll be able to figure it out. The problem isn't that and they talk about this telepathy tapes podcast is that the scientific community is grounded in materialism, meaning like if it you can't see or measure it right, it doesn't exist even know that you're having these, these, these children who are the nonver-verbal autistic, who have a hundred well they might accuracy on their telepathy a hundred percent yeah not once, are the inaccurate well, they might think it's like a, so like a parlor trick of some sort yeah
Speaker 2:that's what they're thinking yeah, oh, yeah, yeah but depending on who you ask, people with autism are more in tune with that because their instincts are kicked in higher for other things exactly.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying probably also because they don't have a lot of control over their bodies or their maybe is that well, is it that or is it because they are?
Speaker 2:see, I wouldn't say that because they don't have control of their bodies so much. I would say more on the lines of they're at a different level, you can't control the physical.
Speaker 3:They can't control their they can't talk.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And because of that maybe they're more automatically become more in tune with it, because the need for communication the word we used to use would be like a savant.
Speaker 2:From what I understand recently, savant is supposed to be like a bad word now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, they mentioned that in that podcast yeah. But like what people traditionally think of savant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they say and that they're like on a genius level, you know, and that goes back to when, I think we were talking about it. We might have been all three of us were talking about it, we might have been all three of us, but that we were talking about. When people, you know, get into a bad uh get, have some kind of uh, uh, really bad, or super head trauma, that it changes. It could change who they are, right, you know, and, and they can't remember anything, they can't remember stuff. Others turn around now. They know how to play the piano, they can paint, you know amazing artwork and such, so what?
Speaker 1:about the, the fact that. So, for instance, I was with somebody, I was getting a training, and this gentleman who was giving us the training was saying that autistic people are very high, they're in tune. They may not seem to us from the outside because of how it affects them, but, for instance, if you're, they know that you pulled up in the car already. They can already feel basically how you're going to be. They can feel you when you're walking in the house and by your energy alone. If you're not comfortable, you're afraid, whatever it might be, they will react to that. Who's this? People who are highly autistic, so they can act out.
Speaker 3:That's a psychic ability You're describing, because I know people. I know I'm friends with people who do have psychic abilities.
Speaker 1:So they can feel your vibe when you're going in. That's what I'm saying. So if you're carrying it and they can pick up on that, yeah, that's how they are.
Speaker 2:No, no, I was just like what.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how they are Yep. You were going to say something, the same way, you know, you could feel, you know stuff, like some people will use the term, like empath or whatever, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's, that's there Highly. They see things differently. Their brain picks it up. You know. There's all kinds of stuff, you know, for whatever reason, you know how about America's got talent? Right, Right, they had that one kid come on. I believe it was. His mom brought him out to the piano. He had autism and he saw that his voice was phenomenal and he was playing on piano. He won it, I think. If I'm not mistaken, he sounded beautiful, he was amazing. You couldn't believe. Like you know, you could see the struggle he was having because he was blind and he was autistic. And when he sat down at the piano and he was having because he was blind, he was autistic. And when he sat down at the piano and he started singing it was like it disappeared.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no worries, no, nothing like it vanished like right, yeah, it was, and he sounded like as if, like beautiful, he was right, exactly, they say that happens with people stutter too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were talking about that too. We had said that last time we were together.
Speaker 1:Mel tillis was the.
Speaker 2:Uh believe his name is Mel Tillis was the country singer and he'd be on TV. He was a comedic actor, if you will, and he would literally be up there.
Speaker 1:Someone else, something else, right? No, I'm saying he was the kind that he, even though it was a struggle for him, he used it for his comedy Right, for his power.
Speaker 2:Then you, you, would turn around and you put that man in front of the mic and with some music in the background. Unbelievable Yo like an angel, bro. His voice was insane.
Speaker 1:And you know you're talking for country. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think it's different because music is scripted, because stutter has to do with, I think, the way your thought and voice transfer. Okay, so like as as where, like when you're singing something, it's already scripted so you don't maybe I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know. I don't know, Because when he was doing his acting, I'm only saying I'm questioning that because he was an actor. Yeah, so when he would act, he's reading scripted lines and he still.
Speaker 1:He struggled to get through it, but if he sang them he'd be fine, and he did that one time too he was in the cannonballs.
Speaker 3:Right, but he did that.
Speaker 2:He did that in an interview. So they said Well, do you stutter? Since you don't stutter when you sing, could you answer this singing? It was on Johnny Carson and he said I'll try.
Speaker 1:He was great though, and he said I'll try. And he turned around and broke it. He was great though. Yeah, and he did it. He was great.
Speaker 2:And he played music and he sang. The answers to the question that Johnny was asking him and he didn't stutter.
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, so it was one of those things you know like.
Speaker 1:So you know we're all at that certain level. But I, you have the basic instincts and you just go with them, usually nine times out of ten night. Look, I remember when I was younger I would go with more with a head decision, you know and I would over analyze it and, oh, it's the right thing, blah, blah, whatever it was, and it wound up being the wrong fucking thing. It never worked out. But when I went with my gut, right how I felt okay and how you know it was.
Speaker 1:That's what I need, how to feel, how it felt to me, what I thought of it not in my head, but you know, everything right involved, not just that, you know. Then, usually nine times out of ten, I was.
Speaker 2:I made the right choice yeah, I did the right thing yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, it's wild, bro, I, but I see like I even believe it's happening to something.
Speaker 1:Oh well, definitely like I feel like the more we do these, you know, do the podcast and stuff and the yeah it's wild bro, but I see, like I even believe for us You're definitely tapping into something.
Speaker 2:Oh well, definitely. Like I feel like the more we do these, you know, do the podcast and stuff, and the more we're together, you know, it's like certain things that we'll say, yo, tom will get a kick out of this, lou will bug out with that. You know what I'm saying. Like I think there's maybe just for me because you know, but I feel like there's things that you know we're. It's like we're that kind of connected now, you know, I said my brother's all over the place, all my other friends, my brothers, when I'm, you know, thinking about other shit and you know, whatever, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1:You know like, oh, so me and Frankie, a little time. I'll think about him or something, if I'm driving home or I'm for some reason or whatever, and then I'll get a call that night, right, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the weirdest fucking thing.
Speaker 1:It's like I was just thinking about this guy. He was just calling me, or vice versa. He tells me the same thing. You know, whatever it's like, it's like A consciousness that they tapped into. So definitely, we're definitely tapped into something, but it's.
Speaker 3:Huh, definitely, which means that, like you know, there's so many different theories. Some people believe there are brains or like antennas, but I don't. I think, if anything, it's antennas to another dimension and that's how they're right like right like yeah, because the other thing is too, like I said, like some people have the ability to like speak to like dead people, and that's why my theory is is that like our consciousness exists in the same place that dead people live right, I get you.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like right, like, okay. But now here's a question, though is it because that's why we can transfer.
Speaker 3:You know where we people can use that.
Speaker 2:So do you think that us as the human race, that we were able to, that we knew that we could see dead people.
Speaker 3:The matrix listen.
Speaker 1:Well, no, no, no, no, let's say we're more primal, we're more, like, less dependent on we're more primal, I guess more, less dependent on we're more primal.
Speaker 2:I guess that when we're doing whatever they definitely our ancestors were able to see the dead people that they were able to do that.
Speaker 1:They relied on their instincts as well, too.
Speaker 2:I'm going by what Tom was saying, just by what he's saying and, like you know, that they were able to actually see and deal and speak well, the american, indian is a force it was like the force, like when you know american indians were big in that right. They believed in afterlife and reincarnation but I'm saying it more like, uh, like we said with star wars that you know, after yoda died he was able to sit there and talk to luke skywalker he would come back and say hey, do things like that, like this glow.
Speaker 1:I got going on exactly you know what I'm saying exactly?
Speaker 2:it's like yo, you could be here too. You know, I'm saying like it's just those things. Is it something more like that? And because of our quote-unquote evolution and to what we are as a human race now, we've lost that well, I don't think you lost it, I just don't think you're paying attention to it.
Speaker 1:It's because you're too preoccupied with other things going on in your life to shame my good man, because think about at least the way I've yeah, that makes sense we have. Like I said earlier, we have so much going on things that we're doing. You know we really don't make time for ourself to really tap into right who we are, or you know what. You know, like I've been listening to frequencies now, um, like certain 528 is like a sleep frequency.
Speaker 2:Oh happy.
Speaker 3:And there's other frequencies. Is it working for you?
Speaker 1:I like listening to them. They're very relaxing and it gets your mind you know going and getting off into a different direction. Right, right, you know, so I definitely feel like that's a type of meditation. So that's part of consciousness too, isn't it that was going?
Speaker 2:to be the question, being able to tap into that as well.
Speaker 1:So I like it, it's very good, and we've been using it to like fall asleep and it's really been really good. So, um, and it's not that one of those ambient noises where you're like, all right, freaking, shut it off already, I'm done with it, you know, but you can actually leave it on all night. So that's a part of consciousness Cause when you're sleeping dreams and stuff like that. American indians were big on that right dreams and and afterlife, and monks.
Speaker 1:They, they worshipped animals, even though they, right they were, you know they were meat eaters and they did whatever they did. They used every part of the animal. Right they said they built. You know they cherish the animal, in that sense you know where. Of course it wasn't that way, when you know the white man came. They just just killed it and took his coat off, and that was it, so they were way beyond. I think they were tapped in already. That makes sense, so yeah.
Speaker 2:That makes sense.
Speaker 1:They were good and I think, almost any culture like India and Buddhas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Buddhas.
Speaker 1:Right, the monks. I was just saying Meditation.
Speaker 2:Now here's my thing, though they don't always speak on what they've gone through, seen, heard, felt when they're in their meditation. They give you a roundabout thing, but they don't tell you, so we don't even know if they've really tapped into that super consciousness where they're actually.
Speaker 1:You know, going on to different, you know time or whatever planes you need to, you need to, you have to basically train yourself.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah definitely.
Speaker 3:Because, it's.
Speaker 1:How hard is it? Think about it when you go home. Close your eyes right. Try to focus on one thing and see how long it takes before your mind runs away and goes in a totally different direction from what you actually started off at. That's discipline, right, when you have to keep doing it? I guess that's how the meditation works by doing it and doing it, and doing it, yes, and then getting to a point where you're more in control, rather than your brain or your mind taking over, because when I was a kid I was able to as funny as it sounds, and people that know me, that are listening, don't make no funnies, but you know it's.
Speaker 2:I was able to do that to get to that calm, relax, peace thing, and you know um, that's what I like about these frequencies, and you can find a lot of them online.
Speaker 1:Um you know, whether it's youtube or whatever, um you can you know they're really good. I think even that when you ask the election, she'll play it for you you. You do it off your phone or no, I do it off the Alexa I ask her and she goes pay me a sleep frequency and then she'll put on the thing. And then it just plays through the night. It's different versions or sounds of the way it's done. It's almost like music in a sense.
Speaker 2:It's weird.
Speaker 1:But it's very soothing, relaxing, and you know like for me there's one ambient noise that I like there's one that has the whale song.
Speaker 2:Did you ever hear it? Tanya's like it's, I can't.
Speaker 1:She goes, it's too creepy for me, I can't listen. I'm like, really, for me it's a beautiful noise, because you think you listen to a whale whale is majestic, right, and they're just, they're talking to one another and they're sending out these uh, they're just, you know, sending out these signals or they're communicating. You know it's great man.
Speaker 2:So that's a good ambient noise, at least for me anyway yeah, you know, I think that's one I you can't listen to the water ones, because then you end up peeing no, the water ones are good too or a fireplace.
Speaker 1:One is a nice one too, I just like white tradition white tradition noise is good too, just white noise.
Speaker 2:What is it the yeah, yeah, yeah but it's weird, though, because there's different.
Speaker 1:There's different versions? Yeah well, there are different frequencies.
Speaker 3:There's white noise, brown noise, pink noise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't understand that shit. I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, I don't get it. That's insane to me.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, they say it gets you back in a certain thing.
Speaker 3:Remember what I was telling you wait hold on one second hold that, but I gotta, I gotta share this.
Speaker 1:Matt, you know how I always said I always say I see 851, 851, yes. So I looked it up as a frequency, right, and it helps yeah, 851 is 5 what it's one of the frequencies. It's a good frequency and it's a good frequency. It's and it's very sharp. It's almost like, almost like the noise that I have in my from my tinnitus. That's exactly what I was just gonna talk about.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's, I think. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right.
Speaker 3:It's called so fuego. It's like this. There's like these frequencies and if you have your headphones on, it's supposed to like. There's one like that's called the god frequency yes, there's all kinds of stuff that's right if you meditate to, it's supposed to really help, and I do sometimes meditate, yeah it's really good.
Speaker 1:You should act them out. You really should.
Speaker 2:Yeah I'm gonna have you got those crazy headphones, something not at work, but like if you're home and you're just on the couch instead of putting the tv on.
Speaker 1:Just do like you don't have to do a whole hour. You could do like 10 minutes of it, really, but just to get an idea what it sounds like and pick the one. You can look them up, you can find which one it is.
Speaker 3:That's something I picked up in the last couple months is starting to meditate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been doing it more, it's funny that you're doing it and I'm doing it as well, because, ty, that's really weird. So I believe that's a form of consciousness. I think that's a form of consciousness too, because we're tapping into frequencies that are helpful to us. That's other than the physical Someone touching, giving you a pill to swallow or whatever. You're doing it naturally and you're tapping into things that.
Speaker 2:That's why I believe the things that I believe, Because if that is something that can really do something for you, then absolutely that makes sense they say certain sounds vibrations, there's sound vibrations and everything sound vibrations and everything, and and if you're on something that's not on that same tone as you, it could throw you off. You know whether it's your equilibrium, whether it's your. Like one of the machines I work on, it vibrates and that sounded really freaking, freaking, crazy, but anyways it vibrates and if I lean on it while it's moving and the machine is running, it'll make me nauseous.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, that'll do it to you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's also like that thing when you have the one window open in the front and you get that crazy tire thing and I'm like yo, you need to close that window or I'm going to puke Because it gets me sick. It's like sounds affect us, Like those are frequencies.
Speaker 2:You know it's fine. What were you gonna say? I don't know. I got a question. How did you?
Speaker 1:find out about it. Chat, gpt right yes, same source. That's how I found out about it.
Speaker 2:I did chat, gpt's all steering us, but you know what, off the cliff.
Speaker 1:But I did, but I did kind of, but I did kind of know about it before that too, but when it went on I was like, wow, this is cool yeah, but I love that and I'm right, but it's funny, we're both using chat.
Speaker 3:GPT a lot and it's both doing the same thing, but what's happening to positive stuff?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, it is right, but again it's like almost anything else it's the beginning, when you're starting to drink the Kool-Aid.
Speaker 3:Yo, this is really good Kool-Aid and next thing, you know the Kool-A humor. But yeah, but no, I mean, like it's interesting how it's we're both going in the same direction. Yeah, listen, tanya, as soon as I told tanya.
Speaker 1:I said hey, put the. I said no, don't do this, don't do any ambient noise. I said put on the uh sound frequency. And I asked election. She put a 528, I think is the number sleep frequency. It helps you sleep. She loves it. Two nights in a row she's like can you put that on again? Uh.
Speaker 2:Can you put that?
Speaker 3:on. I'm going to try that. So you said what's the number? That's probably better than white noise 528.
Speaker 1:528 is not the well you said it was on the 851.
Speaker 2:851 is the one, but that's more of a sharper noise but it goes to other things real quick too, because I want to see what it sounds like. 851 Frequency yeah, because I'll tell you what man here it is 851, frequency Right Search for meditation tracks specifically.
Speaker 1:Hang on a second. I'm sorry. 851 has platforms like YouTube, spotify. All right, sit and lie down in a comfortable position, close your eyes and focus on the breathing while I'm sort of telling you what to do. Set an attention. Hang on a second sound therapies. It was supposed to tell me it was supposed to.
Speaker 3:I think you're supposed to listen to it.
Speaker 1:It's basically giving instructions how to meditate. Here's some way you can use the E5-1 for high frequency wellness and all that as well. You know E5-11, I'm sorry. Awakening and intuition, cellular regeneration, spiritual enlightenment, chakra healing, that's what I was right so these are the things that it does. I apologize, people, because I was looking at the wrong thing. Um, so yeah, it has all that, and then, of course, it goes into all the other things um, binary beats, you know sound therapy instruments, which we talked about the bowls, yeah and yeah I want to do that.
Speaker 3:That's also. You know what? Suzanne and I went to a sound bath a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Oh it's crazy yeah it was like we.
Speaker 3:We took time with like that was do they use lotion? Yeah, yeah you just lay there, you gotta play it. They play those, okay stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah see I want to do that shit. So here's the thing. So, like wife and I, we go to sleep with the um, the fan on. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's why noise and right, and you know, for me it's like, you know, I don't need it, or whatever. I'm not sleeping any better with or without it. Same difference, you know. But I would like to play something that's going to relax her more, right, right, you know what I'm saying. She needs something to relax through and I think that having that in the background of the white noise would probably be some kind of helpful, because, dude, you know I need her, I just want her to relax better Right, so she doesn't Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, because work is stressful as it is, so go ahead.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's that, that's 851. Yeah, see, for me that sounds like when you didn't.
Speaker 1:But they say, if you listen to it, but if you listen to it, I bet, but when you listen to it, it's supposed to do all the you know, help you with that. That's what they say the frequency does, so for me that shit is kind of creepy. Now we hang out. Now I'll play 528 for you, though right Now, that's a totally different Right. They're all different right.
Speaker 2:Right Back me up here no no, no, you're right.
Speaker 3:I don't believe you, but I was thinking Just 528 Healing frequency, cause some of the YouTube ones Also have like Meditative, like music too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's a little bit better Than just that frequency, because that other one, that shit would creep me.
Speaker 2:It would creep me out Because, oh right, that's the. But you know, but see, cause for me Listening to that. I think about so, when it was the end.
Speaker 3:Of the night.
Speaker 2:And they played that, you know what I'm saying, I was around for that, yeah, right. And then it was like I watched it during Creepshow or something like that. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about See, that sounds more like music. That sounds like water to me.
Speaker 3:That's what I've been.
Speaker 1:A lot of stuff like that, yeah, but it gets different tones and it goes to different levels, and it's you just lay back which one is that five to eight.
Speaker 3:Five to eight, that's the kind of stuff I use.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, five to eight is a healing frequency. It could also be used for sleep. So different frequencies, so that's a different kind of frequency and that's more of a soothing, to where you want to relax and focus in on just uh, you know, easing the mind and headphones, but you don't need necessarily need headphones. You can have that on on your phone or your TV, absolutely sometimes.
Speaker 3:I'll you know I meditate in the living room. I'll turn YouTube on and put that on the TV or whatever that's a good idea.
Speaker 1:I never even thought of that. Or you can play it right loud on the Alexa and I have it on the surround sound.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on the Alexa too, the.
Speaker 2:Alexa, too, I'm going to to figure out a way to do that. Like well, not figure out a way, but, like I said, I want to do something that doesn't sound, because I can't have it sound like the tinnitus and I can't have no, no, no, well, but this music just go on and look up frequencies on youtube no, no, definitely, that's what I said.
Speaker 1:I gotta look at, look into it and just look at each one and read what each one says and then just listen to it, get a sample of it and then go from that and then say, oh I like, I like that one, that one I like, so I'm going to listen to that one, but they're not all like A51. A51 happens to be, but the reason I brought up the A51 is because I always see that number and I always try to figure out what else does it mean? Or is this somebody or something trying to tell me something? And I'm like wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Is there an A? You ever deal with the numbers 851 in your life. For anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you know no.
Speaker 1:How often Do you see it as much as I do? Because I see it all the time, because for me.
Speaker 2:You saying 851 reminds me of some old phone numbers from back in the 80s. Well, I had. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1:My first phone number was 851. Right first phone number was 851, right, all right, I know my whole number, I remember it.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't want to say because I don't know who has that number now, so I don't want to fuck them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but yes, that's, but that number has always been in my life, so if it wasn't in my phone number, it's something that I saw or that I came up. You know, like it's and I it's not something. It starts for a long period of time, it happens and I'll see it, and then then boom, boom, boom, boom, it happens and I'm like, okay, for some reason that number pops up to me. Yeah, I'm going to go pay that number too.
Speaker 2:That and my old address in Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's like it's one of those things, bro, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know. That is our consciousness all day long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we kind of grew. This is a good episode.
Speaker 3:I like this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're just about done. We're going to start saying our goodbyes, yeah, but you know, this is what it is. Our consciousness links us to each other and I believe that those who we hold dearer maybe, I guess, and to the universe. Yes, and to the universe. You know it's like anything else. You either practice it or you just go with what you have. You know what I'm saying. You don't have to really practice anything if you just you know, or depending on how deep you want to go into your consciousness.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you want to be a Buddha and you want to go. I'm not saying that. But for everyday thing there's really nothing to practice in the sense that you something to you to help, help you. Later tonight I'm going to sleep, I'm going to put that on or I'm going to just go sit for 10 minutes. I don't want to hear anything because I've been at work all day so I need to de-stress, so you put one on for 15, 10, 10, 15 minutes. It's kind of like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know if you can kind of kind of work that into your life a little bit. It doesn't have to be all the time, but when you need it you know it's there so you just grab it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need, I would need to sit and listen, you know, and and pick different ones, because I cannot tell you, bro, there are certain things. I was listening to reggae music. I got this crazy mix right and when I tell you how heavy it made me feel like sad, and these are all songs that I grew up with that I was at the club. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm like, yes, and it made me feel so heavy like I couldn't function. I had to turn it off. Yeah, so then, like you know, I gotta find the tones that's gonna help me sleep at night and then get out you know what I'm saying yeah and just definitely look them up.
Speaker 2:There's stuff, yeah, I got it, I got it so, but with that, appreciate everybody for listening, appreciate you guys for being here. Thank you for hanging out. Namaste, namaste, look at you. So you're going to change up, you're going to change your goodbye.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're talking about consciousness, so I might as well.
Speaker 2:Namaste Also, yes, so that's not wrong. So love peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper.
Speaker 3:Hello.
