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Exploring Hidden Realms: Childhood Encounters, Telepathic Evolution, and the Quest for Peace
What if your childhood encounters held the keys to a universe beyond our own? Meet Atara, also known as woo_factor on TikTok and Patreon, who joins us to unravel her extraordinary experiences with interdimensional beings. Starting with a life-changing encounter at the tender age of four, Atara narrates how she and her entire family have been touched by similar anomalous events. Through her candid storytelling, she challenges the typical perceptions of such encounters, highlighting a sense of power and familiarity rather than fear. Her journey through a challenging family life to becoming a voice for these experiences on various platforms offers a rare glimpse into the world of aliens and psychic phenomena.
Exploring the realms of spirituality and telepathy, we reflect on the growing openness in society towards these once-taboo topics. We discuss how emotions like anxiety can be catalysts for spiritual awakening, especially for those with complex childhoods. Our conversation touches on tools like the Gateway Experience that claim to enhance telepathic abilities and their intriguing ties to the UFO community. By normalizing these discussions, we aim to promote broader understanding and acceptance of these evolving themes, urging listeners to reconsider the potential of human consciousness.
Buckle up for a thought-provoking discussion on the evolution of telepathic communication and the untapped abilities that may lie dormant within us. With personal anecdotes and reflections, we ponder whether humans are on the brink of developing these nonverbal communication skills, much like the extraterrestrial beings we often imagine. Finally, we take a moment to steer away from polarizing topics, fostering a relaxed atmosphere with hopes of leaving you with a message of peace, prosperity, and an intriguing nod towards veganism. Join us in this episode for an unforgettable journey through the unexplored dimensions of human interaction.
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hey everybody, welcome to cotman crawford and the jersey guy podcast. I'm your host, tom ramage lewis crawford and kenny cotman.
Speaker 2:How's everybody doing?
Speaker 1:everybody's doing great. So we have a special guest on the show. We have Atara. She is on TikTok and Patreon under her name is woo underscore factor. So how are you doing today, Atara?
Speaker 3:I'm doing great. I'm glad to join you guys.
Speaker 1:Yes, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3:I watched a couple of your podcasts and the reason why I said yes is because I loved how you all were just sitting around normalizing, talking about stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for listening. Yeah, that's awesome and I'm glad. At least that's what we try to do Try to normalize everything this way everybody feels comfortable listening and when we have guests on that, they feel comfortable talking.
Speaker 5:Everybody has their own point of view you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's interesting to hear each one of us. So well, you can see it, thanks. So yeah, so, um, you know I, I, you know we, we both follow each other on uh tiktok and I was always interested in your you. You talk about a lot of uh, a lot of interesting stuff. You talk about, like you know, aliens and some psychic predictions, and I'm always fascinated to hear you talk about all that stuff.
Speaker 2:We, we're always fascinated.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes yes, all of us. So I know we discussed that.
Speaker 3:Maybe you talk about some of like alien abduction stuff. If you're interested in talking about that, sure, well, to be clear, I don't think I've ever been abducted. I haven't had that since. I've had visitations and the experiences that I've had have been interdimensional. So the first experience that I had was I was four years old and one of those, let's say, a hybrid. He was a lizard, reptilian hybrid. He was huge and I had absolutely no fear in my body about this. The experience happened multiple times as well, and I have an identical twin sister who was always asleep. So she was asleep and I was awake during these experiences. I'm not sure what else to say about it, because I was so young at the time. What I remember was one of them standing over me and, if you can imagine, bringing its face right up to mine, and it felt like he was trying to see if I would be scared. Yeah, and I just wasn't. So there's that one. Were there any others that you wanted to hear, or?
Speaker 2:do you want to dive deeper on that one? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah, whatever, I mean whichever one, you feel better, you know, if you want to just kind of like go through a few of them or you want to just, you know, elaborate on this particular one. Yeah, you know, because it's that's the first time I've heard, uh, well, not the first time, but you know I don't hear too often about like, uh, the lizard people. You know we hear most like the greys and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:Right, so here, yeah, that's, that's different, so I'd love to hear what you have to say about that right.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, and we you know we, since we're in disclosure we are hearing a lot of different narratives about the different uh beings that are out there and what their intentions are Um with with this guy. He was um, I mean, I just how do I know he was a guy versus a female? That I don't?
Speaker 3:even know how I how I knew that, but I did Um and he felt. He felt like I had been with him before Um, so he felt familiar to me. Um and uh, um. And at four years old, I was having a lot of different experiences. I also saw a dark energy that was around my father. It looked like nanotechnology, like the energy was alive around him as he was talking and I call that there's someone on TikTok that was getting into a conversation about this but the energy, I call it the kind of the fabric of what we communicate through, and at the age of four, I was able to see it around my father. And so these beings whether whether it's the greys, because I've seen the greys as well, the greys or the reptilians all of my experiences, all of them have been powerful. I haven't had a negative experience where I walked away saying they did something to me against my will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, and your sister-in-law had any experiences with this?
Speaker 3:My entire family has. My mother saw a spaceship when she was 10 years old. She lived in Hockensville, I think that was 1955. My father had seen uh had all kinds of anomalous experiences. My sister she just wasn't awake for these things, but she has had anomalous experiences okay um, as has my brother um and a number of cousins, but it runs pretty deep in in uh in my family yeah, cousins too.
Speaker 2:Now did you. Who was the first person to admit? Was it you? Or did like, uh, your dad or somebody say something? And it was like, oh, me too I saw that too.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, no, that would be me. I'm. I'm the person who's like, let me talk about anything and everything and you said you were four on the first one right the very first one for you, though, wow yeah, so that you're gonna remember that forever.
Speaker 5:I mean it's not going away. So were you talking about it right at that moment when it happened? You know, like when you saw it, did you as what a child will do would be like hey, by the way, I just saw abc. You Is that kind of what happened.
Speaker 3:I don't think so. I don't think so. My family life was hard, and so we just had other things to be talking about. I didn't start talking about it until I got outside the home, outside my home. Because, for whatever reason, I got outside the home, outside my home, um, because these, for whatever reason, these experiences, uh, really terrified um, other family members uh from their experience, and so their experiences meant that they didn't want to talk about it at all, like shut it down, okay, um, and so so I'm.
Speaker 3:I am the person in the family who does talk about this at all, like shut it down completely, um, and so so I'm. I am the person in the family who does talk about this and um, and and nobody talks to me now oh, get out of here.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. See, that's wild, because this way I mean you would figure that. Then you know they that they, as long as there's somebody else that has had the experience, that they would be more open to speak on it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yes, you would. I watched a workshop a couple of years ago about anonymous experiences and it was the first time I saw a couple of guys about their experiences, along with Whitley Striever I don't know if I'm saying his last name correctly, but it was the first time I listened to a couple guys talk about their experiences and this gentleman was terrified. I'm talking blood-curling type of fear in his body and sort of the way that I, after listening to Whitley talk about his experiences, his weren't all positive. He had experiences where he was you know he was. He had experiences that made it feel like he was taking advantage of um as a man, and so after hearing his experience, my position sort of changed on being able to understand other people's experiences. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3:yeah mind was fine, and and I, I, I developed this habit of just going around and just talking about them positively and and and coming across my family and other people. There is real fear there because they don't know how to narrate around it. They don't know how to narrate around experience yet, or they don't have enough information.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they don't want to talk about the elephant in the room Right.
Speaker 3:Which is what Tell me.
Speaker 2:They don't want to talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 5:Right, you don't have a problem talking about that?
Speaker 2:they don't want to do it, you're like yo listen, we need to talk about this, because you know this was an experience and you know you felt some type of way and they didn't. So then you know it's that fear factor, though, because you know, you accept it. I guess we'll say in a sense, you know, you're like, ok, cool, let's talk about this, see what it is. They were so scared about what was going on with them because they couldn't explain it, they couldn't polyverbalize it, so that then you know, so that then that's why poly for them. But you know and you hear more about the negative, if you will that people have with the aliens or their out of body experiences or their crossing dimensions and all that other stuff. You know, it's rare that you hear anybody says, oh my God, it was the greatest thing ever. I was so enlightened, I feel at peace. People are so scared about the unknown because they feel like they couldn't control it, that they take it to the negative. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3:It does make sense.
Speaker 1:It makes sense that when your psyche is touches something that you don't understand, that you um narrate it right yeah, you think a lot sorry um you think a lot of it has to do with like ontological shock, like you know where. Like you, just like your whole world views changed and now, like you, just can't handle it.
Speaker 5:You know well, I saw a thing, excuse me real quick. I saw a thing that we're just talking about, stuff like that last week on one of the discovery channels yeah, yeah and this. You know, this is exactly what you were just saying. Yeah, yeah, so they were. You know, it was like they changed. The guy changed from being one kind of person and then he became a very spiritual person because of the experience he had, and it wasn't a great experience.
Speaker 5:it was a negative one, but because of the um, I guess Is that the right word it's just the fact that it was so overwhelming that compelled him to become more spiritual and go a different direction. It just changed course. Let's make a right right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, so go ahead.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you think it's like an ecological shock, or yeah? Explain, define that word for me well, ontological shock is like, where, like something that like changes your whole world view, like if you were to like. You know like walk into a room and like, like in the matrix, like the gravity reversed, like you know what I mean. Like and you were, you know, like something that would just change your like doesn't apply to your worldview, it just completely changes your, like, your equilibrium.
Speaker 5:Everything is off.
Speaker 1:Like your whole, like your reality.
Speaker 3:It changes your entire reality, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get what you're saying, and shock is like, you know, they can't accept it, like they don't know what to do, and you know what I mean I must have fallen or hit my head or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and I would say that there are people who, just directly in my own experience, when I have given them, have had premonition in their presence. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That that has happened, that that type of shock that you're talking about. Yeah, has happened that, that type of shock that you're talking about, where they have said directly to me atara, when you talk like this, I feel completely psychologically destabilized yeah um, and and those individuals have. I don't interact with them anymore because the nature of the information that comes through me does destabilize people yeah. I'm very used to it. I've been awake since I was four, so this is so normal for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. That makes sense. Now, when you do or have your premonitions with people, can you tell if they had alien dealings, or dealings with any aliens, uh, abductions um them, like, say in a dream, uh, or their moment of a super spirituality that they've crossed dimensions like? Can you tell that when you talk to them?
Speaker 3:that is a great question, oh my god and to date I have not sat in the presence of anyone and said oh, you've had an alien experience. What I normally do I don't know that that's going to be my talent what I typically do is pick up on whether or not someone is intuitive. You know their talent here on Earth. I have never had a, I'm trying to think. I don't think I've ever had a read with someone where they've had an alien experience.
Speaker 2:Ever Wow, that's wild, not ever. Now, what about them in their spiritual what, like how, how, without, when they don't know that they are? Um, I guess that they are enlightened. I'll call it, when they don't know, after a reading with you do they know? Are they more apt to be open to it or to, I guess you'll say, to learn from you?
Speaker 3:Do you want to know what you know? We have such a I don't want to use the word oppressive, but I guess it's the best word. When it comes to the spiritual stuff, there is such an oppressive energy around it that a lot of people won't accept it If I tell people that they are impossible or if I tell them they are intuitive. I don't work with people. I used to, way back in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015,. I had clients that I worked with and I wasn't doing this kind of work at that time.
Speaker 3:I have a couple friends who, a woman I met on Facebook of all places, and through communicating with her over time, I would consistently talk to her about how empathic she was, how gifted she was, having never met her ever, and with her over time she eventually began to accept it. But I got to tell you it took a long time for her to take that information in and own it as hers, because again on Earth there is a high degree of that stuff isn't true, that stuff isn't real, or being ridiculed for believing it, and so I come across a lot of people who are stuck in that place, if you will well, you know that's going to happen, but it's more, more, I think, lean, or starting to lean the other way, though now hasn't it, I think, with the times yeah, everything everybody knows.
Speaker 5:I mean there are more people who are interested in. Yeah, you know, all their aliens is their afterlife, all that stuff you know I mean, everything is, you know, a little bit more. I think society is more open to it? Yeah, and not you know, but it's going in that direction, at least you think for For sure, for sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, you go. No, I was going to ask you again, not again, but like you know, do you?
Speaker 3:think that then, because of people's emotions as a whole, is that what brings those things? I guess we'll say, bring them out out more.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure I understand the question. So like, um, all right, so we'll just say you know we try to stay off of the politics kind of thing, but you know. So just the state of the world right now. You know just how people's emotions are and such like that. Um, do you think that these emotions, you know, good or bad, just how they're feeling, the anxiety in some people? Would that be a reason, a cause for um, for them to awaken their inner, or these experiences or what could potentially have been experienced like, oh my god, that happened to me before.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, absolutely yes, absolutely, absolutely, if you, if you grew up in ecosystem. So, just going back to my own childhood, I had my father at PCFC and he was a military man, so it was hell, to put it lightly. Right.
Speaker 3:But it has prepared me for this time period completely. It has prepared me for this time period completely. It's such that those experiences growing up, I would say that I learned how to reach my mind all the way at home to make sure everything was cool at home before I got there. I learned how to know things because there wasn't enough communication within the household. So the answer to your question is yes. Under this type of pressure, people should ideally be popping away all over the place, all over the place, which is why it's great that you guys have a podcast talking and normalizing all of these different topics, because you never know when someone's going to drop in and catch some of what you're saying and they'll be able to identify with it and it
Speaker 1:will be in a nice, calm, cool, conversational atmosphere, which is what you guys have you know, you know the whole wild thing about all this is all this like stuff that's happening with like disclosure and all that is that like um, the, the whole subject of like telepathy is starting to, you know, become part it is now a part of like the UFO community, because you know you had the famous egg video and they were talking about that group and how they have I forget what the word they used for psionics, I think, like people who are telepathic, communicating, you know, with aliens. And then you have the telepathy tapes, which I'm sure we'll talk about in a little bit. You know we could talk about stuff like that too, but it's just interesting how like it's all tying together now and it's all timely.
Speaker 3:Have you all been doing the gateway experience? Is that what it's?
Speaker 1:called, yeah, the gateway experience. I was going to check that. I haven't tried it yet, but that's supposed to like. I know that's supposed to be something that is supposed to like open up telepathic abilities.
Speaker 5:What's that? What exactly is that?
Speaker 1:It's like a thing you listen to and it's kind of like meditative.
Speaker 5:And it's kind of like meditative and it's supposed to like help, uh, like like open up your like mind, okay, yeah, and what?
Speaker 1:and just kind of like, um, I mean, you know, just like uh it's like a guided meditation, but it's if there's a lot of stuff in it and one with the universe and getting to the right frequency.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, and it's supposed to like open up your mind, like telepathically, and you know right stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So so what? So what do you think? Um, like, do you think uh, like uh? This whole like uh telepathy thing is going to start tying in more and more with this I think so.
Speaker 3:I um, I was just listening to it again because I'm going to take a lot of uh notes about it. But you know they, they have their own telepathy chat, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, the hill right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, where they go and they hang out and there's thousands of them. So sort of the question that I've been asking. Because of the way that I experience reality, I'm in that world where they go, hang out. I exist in it all the time. That's one of the reasons why I'm able to read information the way that I can read it. So when I was in 1992 or 3, I was driving a bus here in Seattle Washington for the elderly and disabled and I picked up a young woman who had not spoken for nine years and you guys have heard this particular story but it ties into the telepathy tape. But one of the young people that I picked up who hadn't spoken for nine years decided to talk one day when I was driving um, and she's talking to me, and she's talking to me about me wow, she's not supposed to be talking.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's not supposed to be talking. Not at all.
Speaker 1:I'm shocked yeah, you're the only person on the, or was there other passengers?
Speaker 3:There was no other passengers but, the guy who trained me. So the way that this works, if you're familiar with those buses that pick up the elderly disabled and take them to appointments and whatnot.
Speaker 3:I got one of those jobs when I first moved to Seattle and the guy this guy trained me and we pick her up, we drive her around and we took a poll book for the people. When I finally done with my training and she's on my route, so I pick her up, um, and she's sitting in back and I get to her house and she's walking back and forth as some artistic people do and, uh, and she blurts out you're special and I'm like what? I'm like you're not supposed to talk wow that must have been like what's going on?
Speaker 1:here she can talk though pretty much.
Speaker 3:I'm in shock. We get off the bus and I walk her to her house, open the door and this is what she says. She says to me telepathically, guys, she says it telepathically. She says do not bother telling anyone that I can talk, because they're not going to believe you. Wow. And so I went and I found the guy who trained me immediately and I said you know, you said that she's not supposed to be talking, but she's talking. And he looked at me like I was crazy and said she does not talk.
Speaker 3:And so this is the answer to your question Is the telepathy taking us in? It's changing the way that we understand ourselves? Yeah, yes, and here's why. So the reason why she said I look special, I'm not special, like, oh, you're special, you don't know Special because I can hear in that world. She could see that I could hear the same way that they can in that other realm, the multidimensional world that we live in. So what she saw was that I was able to see and hear and know stuff just like they could. That's what she meant by our world was able to see and hear and know stuff just like they could.
Speaker 3:That's what she meant by our lives. Wow, that's wild and so right. And so, being human, you guys are human, right. You got your eyes. You got your legs right. We are the same. So that means a definition that what she was saying, that some lady who saw me, and what the telepathy tapes are saying is that we're heading in a direction where all of us, depending on our uh intuitive capacity, will be able to do exactly what they can do.
Speaker 5:We'll have our own telepathy chat we'll need phones, we'll be able to just chat with each other they're saying we're going to, we're going to go, we're going to evolve pretty much yeah, yeah, like, like, like.
Speaker 1:I wonder if this is evolution, or is this just an ability that we had and didn't know we had?
Speaker 5:Well, you know, think of how much you're really in touch with your instincts. You know what I mean. As we get older, we get better at it. Right, you do, though eventually. You know. I mean it's just once. You know when you allow your, your instincts to kick in, you kind of are more aware of it. I guess certain ways you pick up on things but um you know, but I think it has to do with an experience or just, but do you think or do you think it is evolution?
Speaker 5:I think so, if she's saying what she's yeah, from what? She's explaining yeah it sounds to me that it's going to go to the next step. You know, know, I mean it's just right now.
Speaker 1:They're still in you know, we're in the in-between phase, right, we're at the beginning of the in-between phase, right, right? So what do you think?
Speaker 3:Well, think about it this way. Think about it this way. Yeah, this community has been. They've been able to communicate the entire time. Mm-hmm. So if they've been able to communicate this entire time, how many years have autistic folks been around? Yeah, you're right. Since the beginning of time. I mean not autistic but nonverbal folks, because it's not just the autistic community. They can do this. It's nonverbal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right they're not talking right, but if they do.
Speaker 5:It's not that they can't. They can, but they're not talking Right. But if they do, it's you know, it's not that they can't they can, but they choose not to, for whatever the you know, obviously with autism, it's you know.
Speaker 1:But the wild thing is, isn't it that like supposedly, like you know, extraterrestrials, they only speak telepathically.
Speaker 5:I think right, they don't have verbal they don't use verbal voice Really much they don't have verbal.
Speaker 3:They don't use verbal voice Really much Not all of them, but most they do communicate telepathically. Yeah, most of the time in my own experience, all experiences were telepathic and I've interacted with at least one, two, three, four, 54 species.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I was thinking like the whole thing is like that supposedly, from what I've heard, I've heard is like telepathic communication like doesn't have to be. It can transfer languages, like, because it's like the intention is absorbed, so into words. So like and I think that's why um, like you, can speak to extraterrestrials is because they, they, they project their, their intentions and they transfer to words.
Speaker 5:That's that's always the intention that I've understood from it, I kind of look at it, excuse me, I kind of look at it from the movie. Uh, superman, when they have him on the ship and he's and lois is on there as well, and she's telling him they were in my mind, and they see the one scene with Superman talking to Zod, kind of like. That almost is the way I picture it. When we talk about this kind of stuff, that's good, when I didn't even think about that, that's good you communicate whole.
Speaker 3:So when people communicate with me and I'm doing readings, because for me it's always on it's never not on and so it is whole. I don't know any other way of saying it, but it's the whole idea that someone's trying to communicate, right? Right you get all of it.
Speaker 3:So now, I'm sorry, go ahead and sorry, go ahead I was going to say and what, and the information that you don't need or don't want, you don't Like. A lot of people are scared of telepathy because they think, oh my God, my secret. I can assure you I don't want to know people's secrets, I don't care at all, like, don't give up, I don't care Because when you communicate this way, communication is instantaneous and it's more comfortable. Quite frankly, and you don't, there's no misinterpretation of what someone means yeah, right right because there's no tone.
Speaker 1:There's no like tone, deafness or anything like that exactly, exactly yeah, because um, is it, is it? Is it supposedly like you can feel their emotions too when they're expressing something Right? Is it something like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just before you guys called, there is a I don't know about 330. Actually there is a light like even now I can feel a light energy. I don't want to call it fluffy because that now I can feel a light energy.
Speaker 2:I don't want to call it fluffy, because that's I don't want to. No, we're not offended.
Speaker 3:Fluffy in this instance is a good thing, right? So when the energy feels fluffy, it's just a good someone, whoever it is, it's a good Like a cloud. Good intention there. Yeah, Like a fluffy cloud like it's a good, solid, good intention there. Yeah, like a fluffy cloud like a tappy, yeah, and energy feels fine and good. Fine, meaning like sand, fine, if that makes sense, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, not grainy, but fine.
Speaker 2:Got it, got it.
Speaker 3:Okay, now energy has no. No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Energy has what, I'm sorry I was going to say that energy has. On this level energy has. I call it a shear. So look at the political environment right now. There have been times when I have written emails to the media and said things like the psychic shear out there is really tough today. The psychic shear out there is really tough today, meaning that there's a lot of negativity and the energy thread or stream is very, very negative and I can feel it like a storm across my space and in my energy.
Speaker 2:Got it, got it. So now you say that you can feel from us that it's a light vibe and you know it's comfortable and you're feeling good when you're talking to people. Um, maybe, as far as we are you know just that they're not in the same area as you are can you feel that like from everybody? Um, oh, definitely, okay, all right, so it's not just because it's like okay, yeah, okay, okay yeah, my niece calls.
Speaker 3:If any family members call um, I'll immediately say things like okay, which person do you want today, if you want your um? You want your fear auntie, or do you want your nice puppy auntie?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, there go.
Speaker 3:Because the two are different.
Speaker 2:Right, definitely, now can you turn it off? Or is it just that, like I know you said, it's always on, but because of so many years you being able to do it, have you been able to just like say, all right, you know what, today I need a timeout and I'm just going to turn it off, and not you, not, you know, and I have to hear all that I.
Speaker 3:You know what I do. I do do that, but it has only been since january 6th of this year that I understood that I'm a telepath okay that I have, that I'm actually a bona fide telepath and, um, and that's one of the reasons why I I wouldn't come on the podcast for a little while was because I had to stabilize myself and this understanding that I am a telepath and I need to take the weight Can.
Speaker 3:I turn it off. I have had situations where I've really said for specific people, I don't want to hear anything about such and such and it goes off. I hear nothing about it.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, and it goes off. I hear nothing about it. Okay, okay. Now how do you calm yourself? Because you know, like you said, now you're learning how, or have learned how, to turn it off. Before this, what was your I don't say so much your process, because I mean, it's kind of like, maybe a little bit personal, but like, what would you or could you do for you to center yourself? Because that's a lot of information, that's a lot of emotion. You know, that's that's that high anxiety level to me, if I understand it correctly.
Speaker 3:Oh, definitely For sure. I pick up on terror attacks and all manner of things that are out there, and so when I was much, much younger, I I did four silent retreats in one year, and that's where you go and get into business talking Um and I. You are silent for about four or five days. The longest one I did was a week, and so within a one year period of time, I did the four silent retreats, and those retreats taught me how to, even if I'm not able to calm myself and there's a difficulty in calming myself and then there's the energy that surrounds me, right, okay, if I'm picking up on someone who is, I call these our citizens, who have been unfortunately radicalized to take terrible actions.
Speaker 3:But these citizens have been influenced to do what I call pop off in our ecosystem. And so when I feel someone like that, it'll be, I'll get a certain word, get a very, very specific word. It'll be, I'll get a certain word. I get a very, very specific word. The minute I hear it, I'll go into prayer and I'll separate it. I'll make an acknowledgement. Okay, this is not me, someone else having a hard time, um, and so you're able to tap in and pick up on other people's um.
Speaker 5:You know whatever they're putting out in the universe.
Speaker 3:They're just putting oh yeah whether it's a good yeah, well, especially, yeah, especially for someone who's going to try to take someone's life going up with life.
Speaker 3:I just don't believe that. I just don't believe that what I call the holy spirit put us on earth to um come across people like that. So I have a hard core. If I hear it, I pray about it and if I get specific details which I have in the past Las Vegas shooting a lot of them I picked up on and I would send that information to the media. So that's what I'm saying here and I may not be answering your question, so just drop me back if I'm not but there's, I've always felt like there's something that we could do, that we could mitigate these things, that if we have people in our ecosystem who can pick up on these things ie our fellow citizens having a rough time, rough go of it and making a decision, an irrevocable decision we should be able to do something about it, whether it's just you know what I mean making us aware. That's why I have an eyes wide open. I call that my eyes wide open segment.
Speaker 2:You ever?
Speaker 3:see me say that that just means you need to be a little bit more aware, because someone is having a rough time and they don't know how to deal with their emotions and whatnot. That didn't answer your question.
Speaker 5:I did it yeah, yeah, no, absolutely yeah, because I'm thinking you know, like you, you know you're going to pick up on somebody who's putting out of a certain frequency, right if it's fear, if it's just that they're not, you know, they're just having a hard time yeah, whatever my emotions or even happy. You know what I mean, yeah but you can.
Speaker 5:You'll know what you I'm assuming based on what you're saying is. You're saying you kind of feel all right, this is not good, this one needs help, and some sometimes you do. You, you obviously, um, communicate with those who don't actually as well, right? Well, right, I mean.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, I do, but there's only. I've learned that prayer is not enough. Like, as a society, we actually need to put something in place so that our fellow citizens aren't put into these types of situations where they don't listen and we have the power to do that. Put into these types of situations where they live, and we have the power to do that. My part is just sticking up on it, but I've tested preying on it and it's never stopped a single one, not a single one. So that tells me that that's not the answer.
Speaker 3:And that we have other mitigation type things that we can do, Whether it's that you know, I get connected with cops and call cops and say, hey, there's someone in your community who is getting ready to pop off. We just need eyes wide open type of stuff.
Speaker 2:Can you give descriptions? I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 3:I have. I've had detailed descriptions I had one permission of a guy who went into a school in Georgia and thank God that's the only one who will pray a word and there's a story about him as well. A young guy goes into Georgia school, plans on shooting it up. I have a premonition, three weeks prior to it, of a guy in a government building and there he is right in front of me with me and I'm talking to him and I'm aware that he plans on going into a government building I don't know which one, but I'm aware he's planning on going into a government building and taking people's lives. And so I'm talking to him in the premonition. I'm telling him you have no right to do this. You need to go seek help Now.
Speaker 3:For the next three weeks, after having that premonition, what is happening is I am just about every day I'm waking up and I'm almost emerged. If you've listened to the telepathy tapes, you know that some of these guys end up merging with people unintentionally. That's what was happening. So that happens with me. I literally end up merging with people and I can't do that. So this kid, so this kid.
Speaker 3:Over the next two weeks I'm waking up every single day, and here's what I'm aware of. I'm aware of a guy, a young man, who needs help. I'm aware of, I'm aware of a guy, a young man, who needs help. I'm aware that he needs to be put back on his medication and I'm aware that, uh, I'm just aware that he's going to be terrible. And I have a description of him because I saw him in my promotion. So you can imagine my shock when I turn on the TV and see that there's a guy in the school and when they bring him out, he is the guy that was in my promotion. Oh wow, he didn't shoot the school up. There was a school administrator who was praying the entire time that he was in the school.
Speaker 3:And don't you know that she was saying the exact things that I was praying for those two weeks? Wow, wow.
Speaker 3:Now that's so nice. We go back to the telepathy tape where they have their hill what do you call it again, caluckity hill when they go chat. That experience there tells you that we also have our own chat. I can break it down a little bit more. So when I have the premonition, I'm in that root system where we all are, and for the next two weeks, into that root system where we all exist, I'm praying and I am knowing and I am trusting that someone in that man's life is going to help him. He's going to give him. Man's life is going to help him. He's going to give him away. He's going to read that letter. Okay, that's all I know.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 3:And the day of the shooting, this woman is sitting in a closet in the school and this guy never leaves the first floor. So what I was sort of thinking was that her prayer put up a barrier. This guy never leaves the first floor. So what I was sort of thinking was that her prayer put up a barrier a barrier so that he wouldn't move beyond what I was talking about before, which is he wasn't going to be with other people. Yeah, you came a little garbled through that last part, sorry about that. He wasn't put on earth, this kid. He wasn't put on earth to do this.
Speaker 3:It wasn't his purpose in life, and so the Holy Spirit gave me a premonition. I prayed A woman in his right there in his own community also prayed and helped him not commit fallout. Wow, that's how I see it anyway. Yeah, and you can watch the movie. It's called State by Fire, I think it is.
Speaker 1:Oh, they made a documentary about it.
Speaker 3:They made a movie about it. And the woman was going to kill her son. She was going to unalike herself. The woman who ended up praying for him was going to take her life.
Speaker 5:Wow, that's pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2:That's wild man. I feel for you. That's got to be so much harder, you know, because you can, you know catch up on that energy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that super energy yeah, it's crazy, you know, yes, it is hard. It's easier when I'm around people who not only recognize it but also understand the value of positive frame thinking and whatnot, because we are never missing each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Definitely.
Speaker 1:Wow, that is awesome. Yeah, those um, all that stuff is just so wild with. You know all this like psychic connections and stuff like that. You know the, uh, the telepathy tapes and all that um, but uh, I forgot I was gonna say something to do with the, the telepathy. Oh yeah, like um, do you think that, like we're, we're gonna start going in a direction now with like where, like it's gonna be start becoming more open? I know we talked about disclosure and stuff like that, but I think do you?
Speaker 3:think people are going to start becoming more open to it as time goes on. I think so. I think you know they are working on another second season and they plan on including verbal folks who have experience. So I think that as long as these folks keep going in and we out here keep talking about it, it can only grow.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're right, it can only grow. Absolutely yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's always room only grow, absolutely yeah that is I agree with that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's always room to grow, my friend. I mean, I mean I still have stuff to talk about myself, about stuff, because I've had experiences myself. I've I've actually I've talked to you about it before a couple of times like, uh, like me, and my wife, uh, she, um, she actually like sometimes here randomly hears my thoughts, I'll be like, well, she'll be like in another room and she's like what'd you?
Speaker 1:say and I'll be like I didn't say anything, so it's pretty wild so were you in those moments?
Speaker 3:were you? Were you actually thinking about saying something to her, or were you just thinking a lot?
Speaker 1:you know, I was just in, in like deep thought. It's usually when I'm in like deep thought, like I'll be just like sitting there watching TV and thinking about something, or you know what I mean, like that kind of situation.
Speaker 2:That is awesome. That's funny, but that's a good one, that's great.
Speaker 3:Do you guys mind if I ask you guys some questions? No, yeah, sure, yeah. I'm just wondering if any of you guys had experiences as well. What brought you guys together to have this podcast? I'm asking for a couple reasons, because when we're done, I'm going to, as you know, start talking about you guys. My goal is to go on other, different podcasts and make sure we're keeping these conversations going so that we normalize this stuff.
Speaker 5:Absolutely yeah, I came up with the idea. I actually talked to Kenny one day and said, hey, you want to do a podcast? And he's like yeah, he's like, what do we do? I said what we do now, we just talk about anything. And then I say it's a Tom I. I worked with Tom at the time and then him and I spoke about it and then we tried it out. It took us a little while to get our feet on the ground, but once we did, we figured it out.
Speaker 5:I think we already hit our 100th episode, by the way.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:already I think soon. We did.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I got the alert from Buzzsprout. Oh, we're going to do a special episode. This is the special episode, but then once we did it, but the one thing we did and I think most fans know this is that we wanted to stay away. We wanted to talk about anything, except for the two most polarized things that shouldn't be spoken about, because we hear too much about it already and I'm not going to say what it is, but you already know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:I can do.
Speaker 5:Yeah, anyway, yeah, we loved having you on. Thank you so much for being our guest. We appreciate it, yep, but do not hang up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause we're out of time now, so we usually do 45 minutes. So Okay, yep, so don't hang up. But don't hang up, we're just going to do the closing and we'll, we'll just stay on in a while, yep, okay.
Speaker 2:So, with that, appreciate you being on. Thank you everybody for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode, because this was groovy for us. So love peace and hair grease.
Speaker 5:Live long and prosper and go vegan. Hello.
