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Are Aliens Interdimensional Travelers?
What if aliens aren't traveling across vast interstellar distances but simply stepping through dimensional doorways? In this mind-bending conversation, we dive deep into the interdimensional hypothesis of alien visitation – a theory that might explain how these beings reach Earth without the constraints of light-speed travel.
The conventional belief that extraterrestrials journey from distant star systems presents enormous physical challenges. Even traveling at light speed, the distances are staggering. But what if there's a shortcut? We explore how beings from parallel dimensions might be accessing our reality through wormholes or by bending space-time itself, explaining the seemingly impossible maneuvers and instant disappearances reported in UFO sightings.
From the chilling theory that gray aliens might actually be future humans who've genetically modified themselves beyond recognition to the possibility that Bigfoot creatures slip between dimensions (explaining why we never find them), we connect dots between various unexplained phenomena. We also examine the physics behind UFO propulsion systems – how they accelerate without inertial effects, make no sonic booms despite supersonic speeds, and enter water without creating splashes.
Perhaps most exciting is our discussion of zero-point energy – a quantum mechanical concept that could potentially provide unlimited power. If alien craft are harnessing this energy source, it might explain their seemingly perpetual operation. And if humanity could master this technology, we might revolutionize everything from transportation to home electricity.
Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode challenges conventional thinking about what's possible. The universe – or multiverse – may be stranger and more accessible than we ever imagined.
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profit and the jersey guy. I'm here, lewis, right now, with you guys, with kenny and tom jersey guy. Yes, what are you guys up to?
Speaker 2:nothing but good things, bro, man. Yeah, what are you up to we're?
Speaker 3:hanging out. We're, we're chilling, we're having a good time.
Speaker 2:Yes, dude, we're vibing, revibing. Yeah man, cheddar scene. It's all gravy, so what?
Speaker 1:So check it out, man. I thought this would be interesting because we love talking about aliens and stuff like that. You know, yes, so do you ever think of aliens coming from a parallel universe instead of from somewhere else in the universe, right?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Alien visitors from a parallel universe, exploring the extra or the interdimensional hypothesis? Yes, okay, briefly introduce the oh see, so aliens are truly extraterrestrial and could be there from another dimension. Do you think they're from another dimension? Do you think it's possible that they're not traveling from a long distance away? Well, if you believe, and bending space and coming here, they're doing something else. They're actually coming from another.
Speaker 3:If you believe in the multiverse theory yes, yeah it's very possible.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:So maybe someone figured it out. To me it's more plausible because it's harder to conceptualize someone being from so far away that we don't even can't see them, right? Yes, Even though what we see in space is the past, Right, it's light speed Machine reflection.
Speaker 1:Right, yes, even though what we see in space is the past Right, it's light speed. We see in reflection Right.
Speaker 3:So you know, as we know, just to refresh anybody, you know, a million light years away means we're looking a million years in the past at that planet or star system, whatever Exactly. Right. So it's good stuff, it's kind of hard to conceptualize how fast you would have to travel. You would need to bend time and space.
Speaker 1:Even if you went to speed of light, it would take you a very long time.
Speaker 3:If you believe you can bend time and space and you believe in a multiverse, then it would be more plausible, especially because in the multiverse there's parallel dimensions, so they would just have to-.
Speaker 1:Worm tunnel.
Speaker 3:It would go in and out and you'd be in the same planet.
Speaker 1:Kind of like when we see in certain science fiction things Right.
Speaker 2:Remember Sliders, if you walk through this thing.
Speaker 1:You're in another dimension, yes, you're in another time, or?
Speaker 3:history or something like that. That was one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a great show, bro, it was a great show.
Speaker 3:And then the premise to that show, if anybody's not watching, was there was Before I get too deep in the story, but they were going through different dimensions because they were trying to get back to their original one, Right, so, but like it was always slightly different, Like one dinosaurs were still around.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Humans were like yeah, we still had skyscrapers and shit yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, there's ones where, like, the Nazis won or whatever, yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one.
Speaker 3:It was kind of almost a little bit like Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2:It was like that kind of Twilight Zone type show, agreed, and it was a good show and it made sense.
Speaker 3:So, like you're saying, yes, interdimensional, so it's very plausible to say that if there are aliens, well there are, we know where there are, but to say that maybe they're from another dimension, right, and there is actually a theory on the gray aliens about that. I could talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1:We did that the other day, though the last time the gray aliens, being interdimensional beings.
Speaker 2:I thought it was time travel.
Speaker 3:Well, there's another theory, that there's different theories. I didn't hear that one, dan.
Speaker 1:That's how it connects to the UFOs, too as well.
Speaker 3:You know that the greys are from another. Where are humans from a alternate timeline where they've altered their DNA so much that they've become less human and more robotic-like?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Or just very less human, less empathetic, and they're trying to get some of the old less empathetic. They're trying to get some of the old original DNA back to when they weren't altered. So they found ours. And the theory is too, is that you notice you don't hear as many about abductions anymore and you're hearing a lot from the 70s and 80s, 60s, and they figured that's the time when, but why we were the healthiest because we weren't having.
Speaker 3:Our food was less processed and, like people were, were in pinnacle health makes sense makes sense now, kind of like and then so very healthy aliens yeah yeah yeah that's the whole theory and that that's why they were abducting people to get that dna oh, that makes sense. Well see, I would alter their or bring their to change their species in some sense physically right back to being more human right. So then then I heard.
Speaker 2:Well, the the latest theory that I heard from bigfoot was that that's why you can't find and see and follow bigfoot, because bigfoot as they're walking and that we would see them and you see recordings as it's walking sometimes part of them. You know they're there disappeared and then it would just be poof and like they're not there because they're dipping in and out of the dimension into whatever portal or whatever, and that's why we can't catch the Bigfoot.
Speaker 1:That's why we can't catch like I wouldn't even want to bump into one, forget about even catching them.
Speaker 3:So you know again, it's one of those crazy shits that they're interdimensional beings, Right that that's what their whole thing is and that you know they're here to check. Can you imagine that that takes out the loophole of?
Speaker 2:like them disappearing.
Speaker 3:Find them. Well, that's true too. It's a very good point to bring up. No one's found one yet.
Speaker 2:But can you?
Speaker 3:but they have no proof yeah, that's the thing, but that's the theory. Well, no, bro, there was another one.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a bunch of shows that they have on now where people have had pictures that I've seen. Yeah, I'm like whoa, whoa. You're like what is?
Speaker 2:that there's this one show called Expedition Bigfoot.
Speaker 3:I've seen that show and on that one it was wild.
Speaker 2:I mean, you could turn around and come up with a whole bunch of things as to like whoa, but on this one they had the heat camera across, like this little lake or little ravine or whatever Right, and you could see the heat signature. And then that shit was gone, like you saw it walking in here, whatever the Bigfoot noise is, and then it was like it was gone.
Speaker 1:Right and people don't automatically think that something like that, like a Bigfoot, probably a hairy- large animal type person is an interdimensional being right. You know it's like let's say, you know what? Maybe if we came up with this and we said this yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, you know what I mean Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Wouldn't it be crazy if all the stories that people talk about like werewolves and like vampires and the Loch Ness Monster and Chupacabra and all these things like they actually like it was like, all like through interdimensional travel?
Speaker 2:you know.
Speaker 3:But then now look at the movies that are like suppressed, imagine, like all that kind of stuff, but actually existed. But look at some of these movies now that seem so now you're looking at aliens, right?
Speaker 2:so we've had, we've talked about aliens before, so now you're looking at aliens. Then you go back and they're talking about prometheus. That's a part of the alien. So now, here it is, where it's where prometheus starts. I guess we'll say, like, what they start to find in prometheus is aliens is they create them? Yeah, it's created by in the movie and then predator hunts them.
Speaker 1:You know I'm yeah but that came in later. But if you're going by the true thing, you don't go by that. I'm just saying as a whole just the whole idea that came in later. It was always just aliens. When they just do that, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2:I know there's another part of that, but Predator shows that it was another species from another place and that they were coming and they were hunting right I got you then one of the things that they hunted were the aliens you know, on different planets or whatever they had that what would the bigfoot?
Speaker 1:he probably just. Or they come here, if that's what they do, um, to just have the solitude in the mountains and everything and eat right, so they're vegans.
Speaker 3:Do you think they're vegan, tom?
Speaker 1:no, no no they not? I don't think Bigfoot's vegan.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot is not vegan because they found in where they suspect, like boneyards and stuff like that they would find these boneyards these hilarious red deer and stuff.
Speaker 2:They find dead animals. They find skeletons, animal skeletons. I've seen that. So I mean they're not vegan. You know what I mean. But at the same, like I said, but again it's one of those things you know, like there was a one, I heard one person make a joke that um bigfoot are uh on that, they're here on vacation, you know. I mean they come from the other dimension and this is like their vacation spot, kind of thing you know and thank god or whatever.
Speaker 1:You know, that was a joke. Who's to say that? Maybe there is something. It doesn't have to be a dimension, it's just something that's very elusive. That's what I heard too.
Speaker 2:It was Chewbacca. They're Wookiees, yeah, they're Wookiees and they're coming from someplace else.
Speaker 1:No, we would definitely know, because there's no way to be able to hold them. It's like Kashuk. That's the planet they're from?
Speaker 2:yeah, like wilderness, yeah, and that's where they hang out, you know, by the way, Kashuk is the planet that the Wookiees are from, that's where they're from exactly.
Speaker 3:Kashuk or Kashuk, I don't remember. Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 1:I don't know the pronunciation, so we're saying that from another dimension, someone, it would be a different timeline or something. Yes, they would come here.
Speaker 2:Yes and they're here, whether, whether it's to, to, to research us.
Speaker 2:Someplace in the future, they would be coming from, so that was my belief when it came to like aliens you would think it would right that they came from the future, right, and that they had that they were coming here because they've fullarred this solar system to the point where we can no longer, you know, live here or look like we look now that the aliens that we know, the big heads and the you know skin the way that it looks is because, um, that's the evolution for what they've done, yeah, so what we've done, yeah, on their timeline.
Speaker 2:Said then, this is right, you know what I'm saying. Said now, everything is dark and this is what they turned, and this is what they turned. There's no sun, that this is just what it is right to be able to survive. That's their, that's their morph to turn into that. You know what I mean. Wow, that's crazy. Alternate universes, they said we're going to go to a different dimension. That, like tom, said that they're here to try to get back what they believe they looked like, you know, uh, centuries before they look like what they look like now, maybe they just come in because they want to see somebody, or right.
Speaker 1:But I mean, if it's a different dimension, different, timeline they're vacationing you're right, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, that's on the funny tip that they're vacationing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, checking places out sightseeing. Exactly, if you could travel interdimensionally, wouldn't you want to like, see some? Like there's this, like crazy planet where, like there's you know, like to someone from another dimension. Like there's this crazy planet where, like, instead of everybody being like one government and no borders, there's borders and they have wars and they kill each other and they got these weapons that can blow up entire cities.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, you gotta go see it. Yeah, and then that's why the ufos are always around exactly right because they, they, they know it's happening because right, right, yeah, you know, hell, yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro, bro. So I mean it could be something that simple. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You could put what I wouldn't put fast. I think something would happen. I think you know, it's just.
Speaker 3:Because maybe you know where they're from. There is no such thing as government.
Speaker 1:You know, they say you can't bet, they say you can't beat. Nothing can than the speed of light. Right, right, but that's what they say, right, I mean that doesn't mean that obviously Nothing we know can go faster Right, exactly Right, yes, right, but not this and everybody always says you can't Based on the knowledge we have, mm-hmm. But if you bend space you can get from one point to another quicker.
Speaker 2:They know how to do that as well, but basically, by the time you go from here to the moon, you're already a different, like everybody here has already aged. What a theory is that everybody here has already aged and you haven't? Because you've left the atmosphere, like you're already out into space. So, like you know, everybody here is already like three months older. Well, you're moving at a higher velocity. The higher the velocity, the quicker.
Speaker 1:It'll be slower for you and quick for them. So when you came back, you would still be young.
Speaker 2:You, I would still be 25 years old and they would be it would be 35 years old or older, you know yeah or older I mean not literally, it's like.
Speaker 3:But you know, right, right, yeah, yeah you know, and so that then again.
Speaker 1:So they have to be some type of thing where they're wormholes and bending space where they could portal into something where it's just you're going to, you have to travel, right, but it's not forever, it's just boom. Yes, exactly Kind of like in Bill and Ted. Is that right?
Speaker 2:No, no, no Well actually, well, no, because Bill and Ted, no, they were time traveling. Bill and Ted were time traveling. Yeah, that was that elevator. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were time traveling, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly. Yeah, they had all those wormholes they were going in and out. Of. There was different timelines as they kept going. Yeah, no, that's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying that was timelines, that was time wormholes, you know.
Speaker 1:But still it could be dimensional. And the same thing went back to the future, right, travel through space. Right now I know we're talking about dimensions, but I'm saying, yeah, eventually someone's going to be able to go faster somehow. And well, be figure out a way to go from point a to point, like you said, wherever right, and then take those two points, like they always talk about, and then you're there and like in whatever right, and that would be.
Speaker 2:That would be when we'd be able to see that hundred years in the past, like we said, we look at the famous pictures of the pillars of creation. That's one of my favorite freaking pictures, I know but that's how many millions of light years ago that we're seeing now, you know what I mean. And they still, in the 50 years that we've seen it in pictures, it still hasn't. It's actually grown yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, well, now with the new web telescope and it looks the same. It's amazing, like when you look at the hubble one, you we were amazed, right right, because hubble was like forget about, it was great. And then web came and now and was like what? Yeah, it totally changed everything, because now you're seeing everything now and it can see far, yes, far far.
Speaker 3:I think they can put another telescope 40, 50 years from now.
Speaker 2:Right, and put it a little bit further out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because where's this, how far is?
Speaker 1:this from here. They could probably network with each other at some point, like if you put one at a certain point and then they relay it back.
Speaker 2:Well, look, there was that one, but they have it.
Speaker 1:It's orbiting. The sun is what it does.
Speaker 2:Right, but I'm saying that they had that You're saying for them to talk to each other. We just had that one satellite, that went out past.
Speaker 3:Where did it peak? Because we're not going to get a better telescope.
Speaker 2:No, not for a while. Oh the web. No, no, but this one satellite went past Pluto and it was still sending out.
Speaker 1:The last and now it's way out there, yeah, but then they lose the signal sometimes and then it comes back, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because it just came.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying it could be gone for a long time, and then all of a sudden it's like on again and they're freaking far?
Speaker 2:yeah, because it's it went straight. We're rotating, we're spinning, so we figure we're going around the sun don't forget it's using the gravity to judge itself not from earth though, when they first put it up, oh no, no, right. So it's still going. It's going out, so it's heading west and we're coming up, because nothing can go up straight.
Speaker 1:It has to travel.
Speaker 2:So let's just say, like I said, it's heading out west, it's heading through the solar system and they planned this that this way the other planets would cross its path, or it crosses the planet's path he passes them and and it passed all that.
Speaker 2:So now, it is over here and, like I said, if we're going to talk about where we're sitting, it is to our right. It went straight out to our right. Now we run around the sun, we lose the signal because we're around the sun. Now we've got other moons and other planets that are in the way. We lose the signal. Then we get to that one sweet spot again and we'll get the signal because now it's a clear space, whatever it is, and then that's when we get.
Speaker 1:it's funny when it happens and it's an old piece of equipment well, look at the, the on mars.
Speaker 2:The rover is on mars. We didn't for a little while because they were all full of sand. Uh, the the martians, uh, dirt was all over it. Um, we if they just stopped working. Then when a nice big, hefty wind came, it cleaned off, it started to work again, because not a solar panel batteries.
Speaker 1:So same idea, when you know you're looking at all these other things that you know, uh, it takes a minute I shouldn't put ai in that, where that thing understands that once it happens he's like all right, I need to always have sun and it would make sure, before it dies totally, it's in a spot where he knows he's going to get optimal sunlight and everything like that, yeah kind of thinking on its feet.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, it's real, so I got it yeah, yeah, nice, nice, nice, but they could do that. Yeah, they, I'm sure they. I'm sure they did it with the next one, you know, the one that just landed on on the moon, that they just did last week.
Speaker 1:I think at some point they'll be able to do certain things and find certain things that will help them and enable them, hopefully in the positive, for, uh, you know, with that kind of travel, it's just, I think, that everything so far we've seen when you talk about, um, science fiction, a lot of it has come true, yes, from whatever your genre is. When you look at all of that stuff you're kind of like, wow, that's look who we are.
Speaker 2:Now we got this going on and we got that, you know.
Speaker 1:So or did somebody come from a parallel universe and show somebody something and then say, hey, take this, don't say where you got it from, I'm out and walks through like a door or something?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he walked through a doorway and I I'm with you, though, Tom. To me that's more plausible of the dimension travel as far as the time from the time travel, you know, I think that it's just that you know, they've learned to just cross different dimensions, the aliens, like we started to say. But how are they doing?
Speaker 1:is the question? Well, I'd like to know.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, that's where they got the Tesseract, you know what I mean. And like they were able to make that kind of power and make that kind of stuff happen, that's comic book. Well, no, no, I'm just using that power level. You know what I mean? No, I see what you're saying, that they Think about it, bro. When we were kids, a 9-volt battery, it was a 9-volt battery. Now we have a 9-volt battery that lasts for nine months to a year, right, sure.
Speaker 2:So then now, if you could, turn it around and you're taking what would look at our computers, Our computers they were whole factories.
Speaker 3:Something's not as power-reliant too.
Speaker 2:Well, no, no.
Speaker 3:You need that power, so they they said so now a battery pack power reliant.
Speaker 1:Right there you go, right there you go, yeah you know that well, if they're able to do all that they should, then that means if they're making you know they're getting better at the things that they make and making them last longer, then obviously you know that should be happening in all areas of life too, with medicine and everything like that, of course that's so for all we know I mean we could turn around and take this and that you know me, I'm going to go that way altogether.
Speaker 2:You know we've already gotten that information, but you know the powers that be haven't let that information get out to where it's taking care of the people, to where we're going to prosper, to where it is that we are going to be. What those grays are looking like, if they are from the future or whatever it is that an interdimensional being is coming here to look for from us, whether it's in our food or in our DNA.
Speaker 1:Imagine somebody walking up to you and saying that to you. What, like you know, someone introduced like listen, there's somebody from somewhere else and they need to tell you something or whatever, or hold on to something I'm from an old friend, I'm from an old friend.
Speaker 2:My mind's already a movie. I'm already making a movie.
Speaker 1:I'm making a movie already, yeah, yeah yeah, and then this guy hands you something and makes you know all hell breaks loose.
Speaker 2:How open are you to that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Listen, Somebody would actually say that to me and you believe it.
Speaker 3:I think my first instinct would be like this is bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a bunch of bullshit, but what if it wasn't?
Speaker 1:My thing is. I definitely believe that something there are beings coming here from other places, how they're getting here is the discussion we're trying to have right. Because we're saying is it parallel Status quo, rather than just coming from a long distance away? And if they are coming from a long distance away? And if they are coming from long distance away, how are they doing it? How are they shortening up the time enough to where it doesn't, you know? And then the other way of course too right.
Speaker 2:How are they doing that? Hmm well, but then now right. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying so right. So the parallel thing too. It's like so how is that happening? What do they need? What kind of vehicle do they need to do that? In order to do what you know, I'm saying it's got to be something.
Speaker 2:Well, so then the ufos that we've seen, no v's and other stuff, no, I'm saying so. Then, if that's, if that's the, the mode of transportation you know, or the flying saucers and the uavs and everything else in between, right, or is it your body going through a worm tunnel? But it could be that then you're wearing a certain suit.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying when you see the videos of like ufos or uaps, when they disappear into space smaller right, right, like it's, like they jump through a different place but are they really traveling in space, or is that how they're disappearing into another dimension?
Speaker 1:or are they like they're? Because when you see, are they using the back doors of space to go in?
Speaker 3:the rockets take off now we're going to assume that they have a different, completely different propulsion system.
Speaker 1:They're not using rockets because right, anti-gravity, they can have all this shit going on when you see rockets leave the atmosphere, they leave in the strangest direction.
Speaker 3:It looks like it's going over your head like this.
Speaker 1:I just learned something the other day. They're actually going straight up they have to go with the planet. They can't go straight up, so it travels, so maybe the UFOs that you see disappear going straight up.
Speaker 3:That's what it looks. That you see disappear going straight up. That's what it looks like if they're going straight up, but rockets can't do that.
Speaker 1:See, they travel.
Speaker 3:Our vehicles travel differently, but we have to follow a certain law as far as physics, probably because of all that Rockets, it's too hard to go straight up, so you can't go straight up.
Speaker 2:You have to go with it, first part. So then, if it's that they are going straight up now we can't see black holes like that so then if they're going up and they have the quote-unquote black hole or their their wormhole that they can travel in out of interdimensional travel, do that kind of wormhole, whatever, then them, like you said, just kind of like their light, almost like dimming out. That makes sense. You know what I'm saying. Now, if we're going to go by that it's that they're going straight up and we just lose sight of them.
Speaker 1:Well, supposedly the thing is that UFOs can travel in any direction. They move, Even when aircraft our aircraft or whoever's is following one or has one on radar. It's doing things that our planes couldn't normally, and they're talking about that, as they're recording their interaction, right?
Speaker 2:So now, like you're saying, that's the case, then Think of the videos that we've seen from outer space, from the International Space Station and stuff like that, right, and you're seeing them, just like the whatever light phenomena, okay, they're just going straight out to space. They're not disappearing or shrinking or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:They're literally Maybe they can also travel as well, rather than they probably have both capabilities, where they could just travel through space if they want to or whenever they're ready to go to wherever they need to. They kind of walk with their light speed or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2:And they go pretty freaking quick, bro, even when they're here on the planet and they just take off really quick. You don't even hear the sonic boom For our vehicles. No, it's probably too quick. Right, they're going so fast because now you're looking at it happens.
Speaker 1:It's probably, you can't even probably well, our air cancels itself out because it's no, it's too, fast, right, our airplanes and our airplanes are breaking mock.
Speaker 2:Whatever you hear, like you hear that sonic boom, it's rattling shit. You don't hear you see the shock waves.
Speaker 3:I wonder if it's because of the type of propulsion system they use that there you go.
Speaker 1:Yes, right, so what I'm saying is anti-gravity because they're not making any noise. There's no boom right, they're using more of a noise.
Speaker 2:So no, because it's the force in which they're breaking through the atmosphere, right through the air.
Speaker 3:That's what's causing the boom but yeah, these things don't operate in the same so exactly. They don't operate in the same laws of physics. Yes, if you're, you know so like, yeah, they probably don't.
Speaker 3:Like maybe they have like a special gravity field around them or something like that but that's why I'm or a vacuum field around them, that so they don't get that sonic boom, and that's what causes them to move easier. I have a vacuum theory. My theory is that the reason why they move so fast is because it's got a special atmosphere, that's a vacuum around it or something like that so it can move easier.
Speaker 2:It's almost like it's pulling and pushing at the same time. It's got its own atmosphere or something like that, so, like they, it can move easier. It's almost like it's pulling and pushing at the same time. It's got its own atmosphere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, or something like that somehow they figured out a way to have like its own atmosphere and that's how also probably would, like I said, would have no sonic boom because it's not. Yeah, there's no force is what I'm saying. It's like, you see, that too, when you see those tic-tac videos, they go right in the water.
Speaker 2:No, right splash right yeah exactly like no clip mode right, you know, like it's so clean.
Speaker 1:It's so. Yeah, it's so clean. Yeah, it's so clean it's like surgical clean.
Speaker 3:It's like no splash it's like in cone heads when they say no, splash yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because the head was at the point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I love it. It's a great movie, great reference.
Speaker 2:That's awesome I don't know, man, I think I, I think I'm more. You know, being a realist we're talking about now. I think the realist part is that it might be is more uh I think it's everything to be interdimensional yeah, you know what I?
Speaker 1:it could be anything. So, listen, this is what was great about Star Trek, because even even the USS Enterprise ran into people who had certain came from a different dimension or a timeline right, who had certain powers and capabilities right, right, that you know were different than theirs, that they didn't even realize, so then they were also. You know what I'm saying. So it could be anything, you know what I mean, Right?
Speaker 2:no, no, no. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I mean it could be you could interact with another one who's a little bit more advanced than you are. You think you're already advanced, and then you run into somebody who's more advanced than you and you're like think about it, I don't know, you know it sounds crazy.
Speaker 2:I guess you know we look at all these sci-fi movies and they all seem more and more, or closer, I should say, to realistic ideas. You know things that could really happen. You know I could see, like dude, if we can send, know this past week, that we can send a satellite to land on the moon, when we had one that landed a couple of years back or whatever it was, and land on Mars. No, no, no on a moving meteorite.
Speaker 1:Right, and then take the sample and send it back.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's pretty.
Speaker 1:And they also know, now that they can actually direct, you know, an asteroid or a meteorite?
Speaker 2:Yeah, a meteorite, so they can direct it to move in a different place.
Speaker 1:So it's not get it out of its. Out of our path, right so it won't level us and we'll be like the dinosaurs. Yeah, bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know what, now that you say that? So they say Atlantis was real, every place that they've looked for, in all these little civilizations and stuff that we've uncovered that they've.
Speaker 1:Hey, let's discuss where we're superior in some sense of the word. The only difference is they would be able to just devour us if we lived with them, right, I mean?
Speaker 2:you couldn't do it. No, no. I'm saying, but in all of these things and they're drones and whatnot, but we can get wiped out just as quickly as they did what I'm saying is that they saw that they were more advanced than we first thought. They're finding toy airplanes. You know what I'm saying. Things that have been Dinosaurs are making planes. No, no, like you know, they say like Atlantis and what it was oh, I see what you're saying China and what it was China.
Speaker 2:Way back in the day, before anybody else, they were already in their Bronze Age. Yeah, yeah you know, what I'm saying. They were already making you know swords and shit.
Speaker 3:Well, check it out real quick. So much more recorded history.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's what I'm saying. So then, even if they, by the time, from when they say that that was done, you know, and I said, if we go by what they, uh, assume, guessing right, um, atlantis was, atlantis was a far more advanced civilization, the world was more advanced. Look at rome. And they already had the, the waterways, you know, and, and working toilets and such. You know, I'm saying, said then if we were the aqueducts? Said then if they were more advanced, something came and said boom and wiped all that shit out. You know what I mean. Why wouldn't it be that, coming from either the future.
Speaker 1:A lot of people think that lead killed the Romans.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Because of the paint that they used on their plates and everything. That Lead poisoning.
Speaker 2:I could see that. I could see that that makes sense.
Speaker 3:It wasn't the vomitoriums could see that that makes sense. It wasn't the vomitoriums.
Speaker 1:No, well, the guy could have added to insult to injury.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, you have one thing going on Now you got these beasts.
Speaker 1:So check it out, you guys were talking about earlier, about how they would travel right, right, anti-gravity propulsion. Some UFOs appeared to defy gravity by moving at extreme speeds, making sharp turns without inertia effects, hovering with lift yeah, they just can do it. And then, of course, you have the idea, that is, the craft might be generating their own gravitational field, allowing what you guys are just saying them to to fall in any direction instantly there you go.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's falling technically, but because as it's controlled healed yeah it's controlled Right so they could hit the switch. Them moving is them making the force of the gravity.
Speaker 1:That's crazy shit, man. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's like a freaking dimmer switch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, check it out.
Speaker 1:So this Bob Lazar, who claimed to work at Area 51, described an anti-gravity propulsion system using element 115, supposedly allowing UFOs to bend space-time around them. And that's what I was saying earlier there's some way that they're able to bend space. When they were talking about that gentleman who was trying to create the warp engine. He had the right.
Speaker 3:Yes that's a loose end. Right, that's a loose end If you want to get from one to the paper.
Speaker 1:but no, but also but this too, um, there's a, I believe a scientist in mexico came up with the idea of being able to. You might be able to actually make a warp engine, may be able to go, uh, travel through space like you do, like when you see in star trek, where but it does, is it bends?
Speaker 1:you're not going through it, it's going around you okay, like tom was saying the thing, yeah, the space is going around, you're in some type of capsule or field that's going like you were saying earlier, same thing and then that allows you to travel even faster than you would be able to travel, because there's really no friction when you think about that, right?
Speaker 2:it's like a water slide.
Speaker 1:It's like just, you're just yeah, gone, you're out and and so it's right.
Speaker 3:I mean it's hard to put your mind off it, though it's moving.
Speaker 1:Do you think you need Dramamine or a little?
Speaker 2:Well, don't forget, I wouldn't need motion sickness thing.
Speaker 1:I think I'd be sick as a dog, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But maybe, maybe I need to puke in my brain.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's why they knock you a little bit oh yeah, probably there you go.
Speaker 2:That's fucking funny. I didn't even think about that shit. But so now there is antimatter, right? There's dark matter, there's all these things that is supposed to be.
Speaker 1:But they know how to wield it.
Speaker 2:They know how to wield it to make it push and pull, because there's a lot.
Speaker 3:We don't know about it. Exactly the thing too. We're so arrogant.
Speaker 1:We're like, yeah, oh well, it can't, it can't do this because what we know, that doesn't exist. And it's like science says differently. But what you know? But things happen, even scientists say because we can't measure something. Maybe we don't have a device to measure right at this moment, they have no way of doing the same way as about traveling. Right now, we don't have anything that can travel dark matter.
Speaker 3:Matter is supposedly everywhere, but we can't see it.
Speaker 1:Or through, rather than speed, but more bending something and then going and just going, not against it, it's like it's just Right Like the dark matter.
Speaker 3:Supposedly it's everywhere.
Speaker 2:So it's everywhere. It's everywhere. So now they have Everywhere you're toying, everywhere you're toying. So so they are different. They have different scientific stations on the planet that they look to try to catch that dark matter. You know, what I'm saying. There's that one, and I can't even remember the name of it right now, but it's trying to smash atoms. But now the fear is that if it smashes the atoms it's going to create a black hole. That's right.
Speaker 3:Check this out and it keeps getting bigger. That's right. Check this out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's getting bigger and it keeps getting fucking bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2:So like dude, what are you fucking talking about? They? What you need to stop, because if it creates a black hole right where they are, you know, and it doesn't fine, they think first of all, black holes are huge, well no, and it take you eons to travel across one.
Speaker 1:If you could, if you could, so that then now, with this, but it's it this place that they have.
Speaker 2:They're trying to smash atoms to make a black, to see what it would do to create that power.
Speaker 2:What they assume are guessing right, deciding that science is telling them that this is what's going to be able to make new energy is that the same place that does the thing when they smash the the you know yeah, yeah, so they can see it, yeah, yeah so to see what the big bang, they try to mimic the big bang said then now, if they make a black hole in there, when they actually get the atoms that they can like, they're smashing like that. Uh, so now what's?
Speaker 1:gonna happen is they need to be able to control it yeah code where they had the antimatter in the in the vacuum.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff, yes, man see, so that then now it's like holy shit, like okay, now if if this is what I guess I'll say, what we, as the human race are looking at, are doing right now we're getting some ideas from wherever these aliens are coming from, whether it's an interdimensional travel or space travel. You know what little stuff are they feeding us, or the powers that be that they're coming up with this stuff?
Speaker 1:I'm just fascinated with how yeah, I get what you're saying, but I want to know how the freak they're getting here, how they're doing it. So there's like so many different theories on how this you know. Like right here it says theory suggests that ufos use high energy electromagnetic fields to manipulate local space-time, effectively allowing for near instantaneous acceleration within without traditional propulsion. Right? Some researchers believe that that method could eliminate inertia, explaining why pilots inside would be experiencing extreme G-forces. But if they're able to do that, right, right, they're saying they would feel it, they wouldn't experience extreme G-forces. That's what I was going to say. You wouldn't feel it at all. That's the thing that amazes me, too, that they'd be able to do that to travel that quick and not feel it at all. That's that. That's the thing that amazes me too, that they'd be able to do that to travel that quick, would and not feel it, so that ship itself something.
Speaker 2:However, that is also protecting you at the same time yeah from feeling the inertia which is a very good word, right, yes, I give it. You don't see that a lot. I got a quarter later, right, all right, so boom now. Okay, here it is that. Have you ever been on the um in disney world when you get on the the tram? Yeah, right, so now that's on magnets when you go on a train. So then, they're floating on magnets right and look at how fast they take off right and they're moving.
Speaker 1:Well, the ones and you don't try it too, all right, isn't it which?
Speaker 3:is the trains, but I'm well which is the one well, I'm just the one which is the is the trains, which is the one which is the?
Speaker 1:fastest speed.
Speaker 2:Is it Japan or China? Japan, I believe it is, I think it's Japan. But anyway, the point is that you haven't been on those.
Speaker 1:I know you know those are also electromagnet and roller coasters are like that too, but you've been on the ones here.
Speaker 2:I know that, but what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying is it's being used everywhere and you feel how fast they go and how fast they take off.
Speaker 2:So then, if there's a way for that theory that you just read, king Dakar, was like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just took it down.
Speaker 2:I know yeah, that was a lot yeah.
Speaker 1:That was propulsion, that was super. That was crazy, yeah, and you always talked about that thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you always talked about that thing.
Speaker 1:A lot of power in those things yeah, you're sitting there and you feel it pull you back a little bit and you're like oh, shit yeah yeah yeah, yeah, it's on.
Speaker 3:Those launcher-type roller coasters use an insane amount of energy, dude, I went on it one time. It's a crazy amount of energy.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I even got in it. I was like man, that's crazy. I went on it and I was like I did it once. I won't go back on that thing, but now I can't, because I took it down. I was on it twice.
Speaker 2:I never went on it. I looked at it again.
Speaker 3:Each time I was like, why is the line so long for the shortest ride?
Speaker 1:Yeah, didn't that affect you at all? Did it bother?
Speaker 2:you.
Speaker 1:I felt like I was going to fly off that track, man.
Speaker 2:But how did you feel? Not so much because of how fast, like, how did you feel sitting in it from that zero to 110?
Speaker 1:Whatever it was, the feeling was amazing, but it was. The experience was incredible because everything is happening for the first time. So you're traveling that fast. You've never been on this roller coaster before. It goes straight up like a rocket Right and you're like this thing's not, it's going right off the tracks, it's going right off and it turns.
Speaker 2:And now you're like yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, and then it goes down and it does all the twists and everything, and you're like wow.
Speaker 2:But now do you think you, with that kind of force that you felt on there, with that kind of force that you felt on there, with that electromagnetic pull, if that was, if you were sitting in an airplane or you were in a UFO, do you think that you would still?
Speaker 1:probably not because of the way it's like do you think you would still? Get that much sick well the reason. I would think you'd get sick is because of the space.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no oh, you think you would get sick because of the space. I thought you meant because of the space, not because of the no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Oh, you think you would get sick because of the space, right, oh, I thought you meant because of that, unless there's gravity, of course, and then I probably wouldn't have to worry about it, but it still might affect me, it might throw me off, who knows?
Speaker 2:You don't know how you react when you're in space. Well, if there's the, which is what the theory is right now you know what I'm saying Maybe it won't be such a bad ride. You know what I mean. Like I said again, I think I'm still stuck. I like the idea of the interdimensional travel. I think, yeah, I think that's good too. I think that's where it is and it's interdimensional for them to get here. Ufos, walking skateboards, whatever they get here.
Speaker 1:Have you heard of this before? Go ahead Zero-point energy or vacuum energy.
Speaker 3:Yes, I heard zero-point energy before. No.
Speaker 1:Zero-point energy is the lowest possible energy to stay in quantum mechanics and some believe it could be harnessed for limitless power.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:The theorists suggest that UFOs might extract energy from the quantum vacuum, allowing them to operate indefinitely without traditional fuel. So, in other words, it's, yeah, it's if the next step and they.
Speaker 3:I remember hearing a lot about this, if, if, that, if anyone could figure out zero point energy, like we're into the future we're into, we're gonna propel to the future like like, because we're limited to our power system agreed.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine?
Speaker 3:if we had unlimited energy, like you could have electric cars, like ridiculous electric cars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean super quick, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as long as it. Yeah, as long as it was environmentally sound and it wasn't going to hurt people, you know what I mean super quick, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as long as it. Yeah, as long as it was environmentally sound and it wasn't going to hurt people. You know what I mean. And it was done. Well, what's it based off of? You know, I'm just saying, as far as making them and doing everything, everything has got to be done.
Speaker 3:But what I'm saying. If you had, you could have these things in vehicles of what I'm saying and it would just have unlimited energy it would right.
Speaker 1:No, exactly, there would be no battery. There would be no battery. You're right. My bad, I don't even know why I mentioned that where does it come from? Because I'm going by the traditional. Like you say electric, I go boom right now I'm talking about zero point energy yes, it's like you never have to charge, ever, you just drive. I think hydrogen is going to be big too, because the cars that they've been showing with those things they're freaking ridiculous Right.
Speaker 2:So hydrogen comes from the water, right Liquid. So then now, where does the zero energy come from? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to wrap my head around. It's supposed to pull something from quantum mechanics. Basically, it's like pulling energy from another dimension or something.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying. This is like a Rick and Morty. You see what I'm saying? This is like a.
Speaker 1:Rick and Morty. It's like, I guess, in a sense like dark matter. You can't see it.
Speaker 2:Okay, now I hear what you're saying. Got it.
Speaker 1:It's the physical energy that exists, yeah, but it's there, yeah, and they know how to probably make it visual so they're able to identify it. I'm sure Now they've learned they have to have yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3:Or if it just exists everywhere, it just takes the dark matter and just uses it to harness its energy.
Speaker 2:Right, but then that's the whole thing. I don't know. I think I'm really with that. I'm really with that. I like that idea If it's something small enough it could be put in anything. Right, it could power you.
Speaker 3:It could power. You Imagine if it could power your fucking car.
Speaker 1:Dude, I would love to power my own house, but I'd have to pay. Freaking these robbers, these freaking thieves racing the freaking hikes on everything. If I could do that, I would do that in a heartbeat. If it was safe and sound and I could just yeah, I'd just deal with myself.
Speaker 3:You could have the most crazy air conditioning system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know right, it's like everything. Yeah, you can make it, put it right here in this chair. It's like everything, yeah, you can make it in this chair and like, yeah, this chair yeah.
Speaker 1:But I'm sure they'll be able to do that at some point Hopefully hopefully the future will be that direction and it'll go in that direction.
Speaker 2:I think I would be. I'm greedy because I would love to see all these things happening, you know, but it's not going to happen before.
Speaker 1:Maybe in your next life, maybe in Maybe the next life.
Speaker 2:We're not made of money, yeah.
Speaker 3:We got zero point energy. Now it's just worried. Oh well, we don't want the bulbs to burn out fast.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, they'll probably still use LED or some new technology of light.
Speaker 3:That's better than LED. Leds are low power. Now you don't have to worry about power.
Speaker 1:Right Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, listen. This is something we can go in so many directions with every time we talk about it, because it touches everything.
Speaker 1:And, of course, we're the geeky little shit with this, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's all the different places that we can take it. Like you just said a minute ago, that just gives us whole new ideas, stories of where all of this can go, come from, what it could be for the future for sure you know, for our, you know, 100 time over grand cage and shit like that.
Speaker 1:We will only see what we're supposed to see for the time that we're supposed to see, yeah and uh, we saw a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we will, and we will see a lot why I'm greedy, because we saw so much.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not greedy, I'm just going to take Wigga and then hand it over to the next the baton to the ones after you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I think, your children, your grandchildren, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's their journey now.
Speaker 2:That's what happens. I know I just don't want to. I stuff, that's where I'm at. But with that, appreciate everybody for listening to our geek moment. Thank you for being here, appreciate you guys. Thank you for hanging out Absolutely Laughing, joking, all that other good shit. Yeah, of course, so with that love peace and hair grease.
Speaker 1:Live long and prosper and go vegan.
Speaker 2:Holl.
