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Vanishing Ships and Future Glimpses
What if the U.S. Navy accidentally discovered time travel in 1943? The Philadelphia Experiment stands as one of the most persistent conspiracy theories of the 20th century—a tale of a destroyer escort that allegedly vanished from the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, only to reappear moments later in Norfolk, Virginia.
We explore the fascinating claims surrounding this supposed military experiment, including reports that crew members became embedded in the ship's metal structure, suffered mental breakdowns, or became permanently invisible. While the Navy has consistently denied any such experiment took place, the legend has only grown stronger with time, fueled by accounts from people like Carlos Allende who claimed to witness the extraordinary event.
The most mind-bending aspect of this story involves two crew members who reportedly jumped ship during the experiment and found themselves transported 800 years into the future. They described returning with knowledge of an AI-driven society with no government as we know it—raising the tantalizing question: could our rapid technological advancement since the 1980s be influenced by knowledge brought back from the future?
Our conversation ventures beyond the Philadelphia Experiment into broader questions about time travel paradoxes, historical figures who might actually be time travelers (Nikola Tesla, anyone?), and those viral photos of historical people who bear uncanny resemblances to modern celebrities like Keanu Reeves. We even contemplate whether our dreams might be glimpses into parallel dimensions where alternate versions of ourselves live different lives.
Whether you're a dedicated conspiracy theorist or a curious skeptic, this episode challenges you to question the nature of time, reality, and just how much classified research might exist beyond public knowledge. Share your thoughts on time travel—would you take the opportunity to visit the past or future if given the chance?
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Hello and welcome to Colin Crawford and the Jersey Guy Podcast. Appreciate you guys coming, how's?
Speaker 2:everybody doing. Not too shabby brother. We're good how you doing, I'm good yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just chilling, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Friday night. Friday's just got to be. You know what? I wish we were in the pocket.
Speaker 3:So for not everybody that knows I come, I take like an hour drive but it's all back roads so, like During the winter, it's just sticks.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:But now it's looking. So it's such a scenic ride. I enjoy it. I actually enjoy Driving up.
Speaker 1:Everything's blooming now, right it's so nice All the. You know, leaves are on the trees All the budding Flowers.
Speaker 2:It's so nice. All the you know, leaves are on the trees, All the budding.
Speaker 3:Flowers. It's awesome. You and bud, it's pretty. Everything's budding, budding, budding, budding.
Speaker 2:That is funny as hell Too much. So I'm glad everybody's good. So let's do it. Lou, Talk to us.
Speaker 1:What's today's topic? So I was thinking like what? For some reason, philadelphia Experiment popped into my head. It's a good story, right, it was always interesting. I remember watching the movie when I was a kid. You know it was a big deal at that time because, you know, we were already into that kind of stuff. We just didn't have what they have now today with the movies that make it look like super, you know, fragilistic. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Yeah, expiatitudes, yeah right right, exactly, but there was always this thing about Philadelphia Experiment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some information on it, right?
Speaker 2:now Explain what. I'll take it, but the glasses aren't right dude.
Speaker 1:Okay, philadelphia Experiment is an alleged military experiment that took place in 1943 at the Philadelphia Navy's shipyard. The story claims that the US Navy attempted to make the US Eldridge, a destroyer escort, invisible to radar using a form of electromagnetic field manipulation. According to conspiracy theories, the experiment resulted in unintended consequences such as teleportation, time travel, serve, physical and psychological effects on the crew.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, okay, okay. So now, if that did happen, I want to know the proof.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, like I would like to see a story to those guys who's to say it didn't.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm saying like you know, like I would like to see, well, I guess, more. I wonder if, because they did it that one time, they were able to recreate. Well, because they did it that one time, they were able to recreate. Well, I'm sure they did. And everything now is, like you know, of course, the super altered future that would have, should have been. You know what I mean? That's craziness, dude, that is crazy.
Speaker 1:Let me read on a little bit more. Go ahead. The legend largely stems from accounts by Carl M Allen, also known as Carlos Allende, who claimed to have witnessed an experiment, wrote letters about it in the 1950s. He claims were later public-sized books, I'm sorry such as Philadelphia Experiment Project Invisibility 1979 by Williams. The ship was said to have vanished from Philadelphia and reappeared in Norfolk, virginia, but before returning. Some reports claim that crew members were embedded in the ship, metals, suffered mental breakdowns and were left permanently invisible.
Speaker 1:Like the Invisible man right, yeah, wow, that's crazy, that's nuts.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, yeah. So now when they got off the ship you know like they were stuck in that other dimension. I guess you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like that in-between thing, I wonder if people were able to see, like thermal scanners, though Like were they like the predator? Were they invisible, like you definitely couldn't see them? Or were they like bending light, like the predator?
Speaker 2:Like we could see them. That's pretty crazy, though. Man like the president, like we could see that.
Speaker 3:That's pretty crazy, though man see that little, yeah, like the glass, like their glass right.
Speaker 2:Right, that's great, yeah, because then that. But then that would be the question too as far as them on the boat, because they so if they were going to beat radar. So radar is just a matter of um, how they made the ship that the sound waves would reflect differently like the stealth bomber right, exactly that, and that's what they use now of course.
Speaker 1:Right, at least we know.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it was working on other shit that we'd saw, so now, and then they say and then now, what they're using are cameras to make something seem invisible. So then they'll do like they put cameras on one side of it and then the TV screen, if you will, on the opposite side. This way it looks like you're looking through, you know what I'm saying? And so then this so I mean, I didn't see all of that lou, so was it is they were doing it?
Speaker 1:dude, I'm having a big deal. This movie came on. If you watch it, man yeah, I'm gonna have to check it out there's no credible evidence that such experiment occurred right of course, the united states navy has repeatedly denied the story, saying that no such invisibility or teleportation experiment was conducted. Some researchers believe that the myth may have been influenced by real projects like Project Rainbow, a classified World War II effort related to radar camouflage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying, so that then I want to know what it was that they were doing. So what I mean is, as far as like, was it through electricity, like electromagnetic, that's what they said, electromagnetic, that it got overloaded? You know what I'm saying that's what I'm saying, that's what I would like to know.
Speaker 1:You mean because people got caught in the metal and all that? Right, yeah, they didn't know how to control it. Obviously it was the first time, so they didn't know what was going to happen.
Speaker 3:They were like let's see what happens we?
Speaker 1:put these two things together man and we just turn it on.
Speaker 2:Exactly Dude. That's insane man.
Speaker 1:That is just so crazy, I know, oh my God, but that fact that it supposedly traveled from Philly to Norfolk, invisible, invisible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, invisible, but not teleported.
Speaker 1:No, no, invisible. I don't know. Does it say invisible?
Speaker 3:No, invisible. No, that's what you said. It says it vanished from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2:So I guess, that means invisible, invisible. I'm going to say invisible, because then, when it came, back.
Speaker 2:For some reason reason, my mind goes to teleportation. Yeah, I don't know why, but you know what I mean. So it makes sense. Because if and that's what I was going to say next because teleportation, if we remember, uh, somebody, you know little crazy funny sci-fi movies that we've seen when they were doing the teleportation, right, you know somebody from the ship down to the planet that they came back all mush because their cells and everything was all mixed up. So then, if it was something like a teleportation and they ended up, you said they were part of the metal on the ship, right?
Speaker 1:When they came back, phased back in. They probably were not in sync and they wound up forming with inside the ship itself.
Speaker 3:Some shit happened to them mentally.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:And then the crate, but there are some types of teleportation theories. So, there's that kind where it breaks it down, and then there's the where it bends space and time.
Speaker 2:Where this? Point A and this point's here, and you just step through it, you're just walking through a door. But then if that was the case with this boat I don't think that was the case with this boat, but this but yeah.
Speaker 3:But I don't think that was the case with the boat. I think they made the shit invisible. They did like some fucking Right, they did something tapped into something too, because Predator type shit. Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or like or the ninja guy. Yes, I forgot about that. Metal Gear Cyber Ninja. Yeah, so now this was in what year? 1943,. I think you said so, when did the spaceship crash at Roswell? Oh, in the 50s.
Speaker 1:Escort. Chachibite Around that time?
Speaker 3:yeah, when did the UFO crash in Roswell, New Mexico? Don't tell me he's talking to his classes.
Speaker 2:Kick it, michael P. Did the ufo crash in roswell, new mexico?
Speaker 3:don't tell me he's talking to michael pio. Tell me 47, 47. Four years later, four years later, to hear that, yeah, that's crazy, so now it's awesome 47.
Speaker 2:So now, if they were trying to reverse engineer some of the things that they found on the spaceship, that did not technology, they weren't sure exactly how it worked Right, and then that's probably where the FUBAR came in and they ended up. You know what they were trying to just be invisible. Time travel just ended up happening.
Speaker 3:That's like oops. I wonder if that audio can go through.
Speaker 2:I bet you it did. I'm sure it did, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I hope our listeners do. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Just the fact that they even tried to do that, yeah, and they phased in and out of not only invisibility, but possibly time as well. Which is Right? Which?
Speaker 2:is really crazy, because they probably didn't even know what they did to time travel.
Speaker 1:They probably only had an idea. Yeah, and it was enough for them to go, okay let's do it.
Speaker 2:See, that's straight like Twilight Zone stuff for me, bro you know what.
Speaker 3:I mean for them to go.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's do it. See, that's straight like twilight zone stuff for me, bro. You know, like it's just of all the things that you can't, you couldn't like hold on to, and you know what I mean to to harness, if you will, or just to see, and it was that time travel, you know, and the boat is probably gone now. You know what I mean. Like they said then they said the boat was gone. Did I read that before? That the boat they don't even have the boat they don't. We can't see the boat Like it's not like on.
Speaker 2:This place somewhere, like in a museum or whatever, like we can't even see the boat.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Oh, in other words, it's not. Yeah, I don't know, it's not a commission.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. They probably broke it down.
Speaker 1:You know it's hidden in the no, they recycled it, we just built something else.
Speaker 2:There's something else with it because, man, you know how crazy I would love to be able to see that boat. That would have been so crazy, and oh yeah yeah, it was invisible. I couldn't see it, I wouldn't be able to maybe that's why we don't have it on display.
Speaker 3:You can't see it. It's right here. We can't even see it. It's right here. You think you can see it, we?
Speaker 2:can't see this. Red and green glasses. You can see anything. Yeah, wow, yeah, but not, bro. So imagine, oh, let's say, that they did end up harnessing it and that'd be fun just making a joke yeah like, like, can we see the boat?
Speaker 3:you can't see it, they won't, let us see it but they were, were just telling you, you can't see it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:They were just saying you can't see it.
Speaker 2:That's freaking hilarious, but yeah, so. I mean now again, you know how many things are there, stories that we don't know about, Of course that you know what I'm saying. I don't know, I guess for me, to an extent, you know there's certain things that the government shouldn't tell people. You know, because if that's a secret, and it's, you know well, they try to.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it leaks out, right yeah, people who, uh, they didn't really handle the experiment. Yeah, too well, there was people on the ship, right? Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They had a crew because they were invisible. So now their voices. There was an experiment and we were caught in the boat. And then you, you're thinking like oh my God, that's a great story. You can start writing it down. You know what I mean. You make a great flick about it.
Speaker 2:And it was really that it was one of the invisible guys that was on that ship when it came back and docked, got off the boat and he's talking to his family and shit. You know, jimmy spoke to me. Jimmy spoke to me Meanwhile's like I'm right here, it's like Star Trek stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, different phase Dimension, uh huh, you can see them, but they can't see you, right yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm telling you, man, that's so that then how many times has it happened and people have disappeared Because it was done On a larger scale? You know what I mean? Yeah, so then it's not really that a lot of people have quote unquote disappeared.
Speaker 1:Probably made it more confined, or what's the right word I'm looking for?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, I'm talking about, like by now, more controlled Right, right, by now they have.
Speaker 1:Hey, let's do this right in the middle of the ocean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but think of how many things they've done in the past, like with nuclear weapons. When they practice, you know, testing them out either on the ground or on the water and then, you know, people just happen to get caught in the way. That's how the incredible Hulk became. Oh, I got you. You know what I'm saying there's a crossover, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, you go the super crossover, but you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's like it's one of those things like you know, the military or you know every country that they could have just done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, military, you know they're doing shit that we probably don't even know about.
Speaker 2:I mean, think about it, the stealth bomber was what back in the 50s and 60s that they were looking at, that they were testing the idea of having it, not actually maybe flying it, using it as mission on missions and stuff, but they were looking at that technology to make it invisible. You know right they use the uh, what they have on it now, right and then. That was the other thing too. Is that the way that they made the engines on radar right, so as it's.
Speaker 2:So they made the engines that you can't hear. It as it's coming to you when you hear the engines on those airplanes when they left is when they left, so now it's like you know, you don't even hear it yeah you know, you just, it's just like right there, it's like yo, what's that? And you're caught in the middle of the bombs.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying so, but it's so high anyway, you're not gonna see that well, yeah, that thing is operating at like a level of freaking altitude where you can't be seen.
Speaker 2:At the same time, listen it's it's wild man and it's cool and super interesting because you know all the movies that we've seen. Uh, you know, they said like the Manhattan Project and stuff like that. You know what was the one that they just did that made all that money last year? Um, it was one of the greatest movies, the best movies of the year, um, hoppenheimer.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, you know I never. You know what I'm saying. No, I never saw it. Yeah, I didn't get to see it either. I saw it.
Speaker 2:It was a good movie, just that, like just there are parts of the story that I'm sure haven't been told, but just the idea that these were government projects that had happened. They were doing some wild shit.
Speaker 3:They were just trying to do whatever, doing some wild shit.
Speaker 1:they were just trying to do whatever, so like that's the thing, that always makes me wonder right if they were doing wild stuff like that right back then, right.
Speaker 3:What are they doing now?
Speaker 1:oh, forget it.
Speaker 3:You don't want to know, man, I don't even want to know, like, like, what kind of or I don't because, I I find it hard to believe to be like all right, we got to stop this guys like I doubt highly that right but, like you know, and is this where, like a lot of quantum, like mechanics, come in? Oh, definitely, bro. Yeah, like more tens of wild stuff. Well, and think about it, brainiac shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, even look too. They were talking about exos, six million dollar man having this cybernetic stuff, you know, uh, limbs and things like that suit, you get into a whole suit or whatever. On that now actually and they keep making it better and better and to do all these things. So it's something that had been thought about before, whether it was something that somebody saw technology.
Speaker 2:It's better, right exactly because something that they saw out of a comic book or something that they thought they saw in in a movie sci-fi, sci-fi something comes alive. You know exactly, and that's what it is many movies back to the future. You know, when marty parked the car and he wanted to get um, he had on the uh, the hazmat suit, so they thought that he was an alien. You know, when he, when he crashed the car into the barn and he comes out like, oh right, so you know, it's just now, that little kid that was on there saw it. We're just talking, like I said, if you know, if it was real life. You know, somebody just saw something, because of this.
Speaker 2:But he now says you know, this is a good story, now it becomes a story, Now one of us reads it and we're geniuses. And now we're going to have that. I'm just saying that's where my mind goes. And as far as military is concerned, dude, what haven't they done? What haven't they tried? I don't want to know.
Speaker 1:That's what I keep saying. I don't want to know, I'm kind of nosy.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's some things that you probably don't want to know Do you think they invented time travel, do you think?
Speaker 1:they invented time travel. I think they did I think if they did though I don't think it's anything you get into I think it's like what you said before, where you walk through something and you teleported. If we're living right, now.
Speaker 3:And if they did invent time travel, that means they've used it already, right? Which means, whatever they did, they did. Yes. Whoever used time travel because we're living in present day, so I think so it affects the past. What did they Possibly? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, right. So then now let's think about this though Time travel, if they did it, not so much to change, let's just say regular history, so much to change, um, let's just say regular history. You know, just, you know to make whatever technology. You know what I mean, and the excuse, or the whatever you want to call it was, it was aliens that they've given us this technology. In actuality, it was just us, right, and we, you know, travel or military, whomever travel back and forth into time, you know, was able to bring some of that stuff back to make it happen a little faster. And, like we spoke before in one of our other, shows how fast technology has jumped in the last 50 years.
Speaker 1:Oh, and it keeps just making more and leaves some balance. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Dude. It went from vinyl to cassettes, to 8-tracks, to cassettes, to MP3, to DVDs, to the iPods. You?
Speaker 1:know what. I'm saying Like it's just all these things, and now it's just streaming services, and now it's just streaming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's in the last 60 years. Now it's just streaming music, Right exactly.
Speaker 2:So in the last 60 years we've gotten to where we have all these things, computers, what they were and weren't from. You know what I'm going to mention.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember I can't help it. I had that computer.
Speaker 3:I'm going to digress a little bit. I can't help it, I got to say. I just find it interesting how we'll get back to the main topic. I promise we won't sidebar too much but no, like how awesome it is now to like in the. I know a lot of musicians do struggle, but the whole access to having music. People now can start finding music that they might not have liked or more underground stuff can become available and it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Even now I'm listening to all these artists and discovering all this music that I never had access to because we only the record companies. This is what we're dishing out to you.
Speaker 2:Listen to this, listen to this, listen to this. They still do that, but now like.
Speaker 3:A lot of people are just discovering more music and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yep, we'll change the rap. That's technology right. It gives everybody good freedom to to do that exactly.
Speaker 3:Cool time now we just listen to whatever you like or like what you do. You have like this crazy mix. I love it's like your mix like it goes from this to that, to this, to that, when you have your music on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I like so much, so much different music. Yeah, and I thank my parents for that because they were so they loved so much difference. And then whoever, and I just love music period right, just for piano music I think I think he used piano music before.
Speaker 3:We have, uh, the podcast we lou has his music on and it's just like all different, all the different stuff we're just listening to but you're saying about people losing mutant money. You know artists musicians or whatever that's like so like you had this uh, but it's how they make their money. Now you know I'm saying so now. It's marketing.
Speaker 2:They have a chance to market like I started to say before you had chance to rapper, chance to rapper didn't sign with any music labels, he just, you know, did it on his own. He was, you know, social media famous and whatnot. Diy, yeah, diy stuff Exactly All day long and he promoted himself, sold his own music the way that we have podcasts on all these streaming services, more money now right, you know what I'm saying, because now, he's able to do music.
Speaker 3:Exactly. That's the other flip side. Right are the record companies are kind of becoming kind of like a not needed thing, because record companies make records, right. What do they make now, right?
Speaker 2:no, no one yeah uses. It's not the same yeah so like who are they? They're just like banks now right exactly for like funding like well, yeah, yeah, they're like yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:They're basically like investors.
Speaker 2:Yes, now, that's all they are now yep, yep, and they're still trying to get the big money off. You know they're trying to get that. You know 40 instead of the, you know 10 and whatnot, but no, you're right. So then, with all that being said, look at how, how it's possible that this time travel yeah because of the philadelphia experiment, that this is what now this of the Philadelphia experiment, that this is what now.
Speaker 1:This is the conversation we're having, you know like we just like oh my god well, they were messing around with it with then. I'm sure they were doing it before that too, that we don't know about it. Right, you know so it's. But you know, when we think about all that stuff you got to save yourself, yeah, they're thinking about that stuff too, because a bunch of nerds over there working on that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, trying to make it real, yep, like you, like you're saying so now bellic and bellic, a bell tech, but like bellic claimed that you know he and his brother, uh duncan uh, were crew members on the on the uss eldridge. Now they got away. So that then if they got away on the other page second one so now if they got away they were never found again. Like no, they were right because they jumped off the ship.
Speaker 1:Right said then but they still ended up time traveling. They wound up instead landing in water and they found themselves transported through time vortex and ended up in the year 2749, right.
Speaker 2:So now it's 800 years into the future, into the future. So now they're there, now they're bugging out and they're talking about all the things that have happened. So then how did they get back? Because they were phasing it in and out of time. There you go. So now in that time, that's at least the idea of what was going on.
Speaker 1:So now we're going to assume they told everybody they went back to their present Right and this is what they told everyone and then they came back, right.
Speaker 2:So then, when they came back, now it's like they came back. So what the theory is? They were there for a while and then came back, exactly so, phasing in and out. Quote unquote phasing in and out, but they may have. When they came back, right, they came back with all the knowledge from the future.
Speaker 1:Well, whatever they saw or experienced or lived, they may have and they came back older. No, they can't. Oh, they came back. Who they the way they were. I don't know if they aged or not, I don't think so I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I don't remember what it was that few minutes that they were out there they saw all these things that they brought it back, and it was in 1983 that they came back and, like I said, look at how fast technology jumped in the 70s and 80s. I love what it says though the future is, though, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:He described the future of society with no government as we know it and everything is controlled and AI-driven. Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2:yeah, I do.
Speaker 3:That would be a cool society living, you know that's something I thought about, you know, one day, when I was pondering right right, right, right, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about man yeah, yeah, but like man gets out of its way, eventually they'll get to that point where they're able to live life not with distress, right?
Speaker 3:imagine a futuristic society, picture this right, where you have this ai and you'd be like I want this house and you just ai build your house, yeah, and like the economy is just based on contributions, like everybody just contributes to society, but like there's no.
Speaker 1:There's no money, like they don't need to work, but you have a job right, I build your house.
Speaker 3:I built your own furniture, designed your own furniture, everything you just could design to spec, and it fucking builds. Yeah, and then like same thing food, you know you can, and all your. Your house is always clean. We already got that.
Speaker 3:We already got just to sweep the floor basically or start having robots that just take care of your house, that cook for you, that do everything Right. Can you imagine, yeah, it'd be like and we would have time to just like kind of be able to like live life a little bit better now because like you could like pursue more interests and do things because, like everything's being done for you.
Speaker 2:We'll see that and that's where the catch comes in. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:You go where the catch comes in, right. Yeah, first I think you're going to say the same thing I'm going to say, but you would want to still keep things. I think we would get to a point where they we realized that relying on one thing all the time and not doing other things wasn't good for our health right so then they found that balance where they do both right, right, but like, even like and jobs that like excuse are really bad and require hard labor.
Speaker 3:You know that like we like some of the like, some of the shit I know what people don't like to talk about but like a lot of our chocolate is like fucking slave labor. It's fucked up, yeah, but now you're right, excuse me sorry, all right, bless you, thank you.
Speaker 3:Robots, the, the, uh, the robot you can have, just you know ai driven robots doing all the you know farming and all the heavy hard labor that, like you know what I mean, right right, well again, though, but that and but, I'm not gonna say that it's taking the jobs right.
Speaker 2:No, but it's easy to take away the jobs that like what? This is well, because it's not like that we do.
Speaker 3:but there has to be a way to balance where, like now, those people that do you know that is work for those people, though they get paid. Like now, they won't have jobs. So, like you got to find, we'll see.
Speaker 2:So, like for me, here's my thing, you know. I like the idea of having mechanical things helping helping. You know like people were complaining about having the electric vehicles. My thing is that now we evolve as far as what we do, so our job before was to build the car and only maintain this. You know, combustion engine. Now it's about now teaching the people who built the cars how to build and maintain an electric vehicle for the hydrogen right, like, but that's the thing that it's now a matter of us evolving, you know, into different things.
Speaker 2:Cleaner energy, you know, no matter how you try to put it, you know or try to make it sound, but that's the thing that it's now a matter of us evolving into different things. Cleaner energy, no matter how you try to put it or make it sound any kind of different, we need cleaner energy. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. We all are victims of what is in the air right now, what's in our food, and such, and contributors Right, and contributors all at the same time, because we're like, oh well, my footprint isn't that big.
Speaker 1:It's still big enough to where it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You're straight, you're, you're kind of restricted by the times that you have right, you got gasoline. Mostly is the dominant thing and that's what's being used so that then now, if we get to where you know robots or any kind of ai is now taking over or doing those things?
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:yeah, because you got that movie with will smith the I robot. Oh, yeah, right so that then now you're looking at all the things in that movie, that's always the hollywood version.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying but it's because it's still the thought. You know, I'm saying it's just still that idea. Now we've turned around, and I'm not saying the bad part of the movie, I'm just saying now we have these robots that are doing most of our stuff for us. You know what I'm saying? Uh, are we gonna end up overweight because now we don't have to go and do those things?
Speaker 3:yes, I guess, to be health conscious, as people will have to exercise right, you'll have to do you know they would.
Speaker 1:It will remind you when it's time for you to exercise. If you got ai, it's gonna do all that for you you know I mean it's gonna be your assistant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's gonna teach you how to. It's gonna cook for you and be like you're not going to let. Maybe you can have it set. Be like don't let me get overweight, where it'll cook, Like it'll make healthy food for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more portion control and stuff like that. Yeah, more control. But you said you still have to get up and do it because they were you know again because I love movies and they.
Speaker 3:you know, oh you know, we got a soccer game tonight.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah For kids.
Speaker 3:You know, we don't have time to cook and it makes a meal for you.
Speaker 2:Right, but then, like on other nights, you make your own meals, right, and it just you know Well, but that's the balance that we, but that's the balance that we are saying, like yo, we're going to turn around, and then that's.
Speaker 1:Right, that's who you want to be.
Speaker 3:Well then, maybe it should be up to the software designers to tell people and inform them. Be like, let you know that you should be doing this yourself most days because you are going to get overweight and just build Like.
Speaker 2:Teach people, yeah, but I mean, I get it and I hear that you do it to your own Right. You can do it now, right.
Speaker 1:You do it to your own stream. You can do it now, right. We still have devices that we use now that we monitor no but the.
Speaker 3:AI will be telling you because they're going to be talking to you.
Speaker 1:Only because you want it to right. I would imagine you're the one who's directing it.
Speaker 2:It's the same way you talk to JVC.
Speaker 3:You have C3PO in your house all the time.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, he's like sorry sir, but I cannot cook for yourself because you are getting fat. Sorry, sir, but I must tell you you are getting fat. Yes, it is against my programming. I cannot cook.
Speaker 1:How would you say, sir fat bastard?
Speaker 2:wow, dude I think of awesome powers but yeah but you know, but. But again you know me with my movie stuff. There was that movie wally uh cartoon and they were showing the robots doing everything and the people were sitting in like these hover chairs oh, and they were fat, and they were fat, they're all overweight. Everybody on there was overweight.
Speaker 3:They kept throwing them the whatever and they went to space because they polluted the land because they polluted.
Speaker 1:They had that one robot on the land, wally wally, who was crushing that all up right and making up, and then he found the flower, because, yeah, because Eve yeah she was one of the robots from the space Eva.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she came through and she was from the spaceship, yeah, you know, and doing that stuff. And then on the spaceship, the computer, the robot that was up there helping the captain, he, you know, ended up like no, no, no, we want to stay here because we don't want these people to take care of themselves, because we're taking care of them right, right to live and do everything. So the machine was making you a slave, exactly for the most part, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I said, that's why I would love to be able, would have been able to speak to these guys to see, you know, to hear from them directly what they saw in the future. You know what I mean, like because it was going to be where there was no government and all that other stuff, and it was. You know, there's everybody living in harmony. You know, right, to me it's like, well, how did how did it happen? Like, let us know? You know, like really sit here and show there's more information.
Speaker 2:get up easy to find out what because, man, listen that, that that should be where we are getting to now, because what we got like 2 000 years before that you know we get to that kind of thing you know there was another, uh, philadelphia 2.
Speaker 1:Philadelphia experiment 2, 1993. A remake made television in 2012, also titled the philadelphia experiment.
Speaker 3:Let me know if you're thinking of those stories so it says credibility of the story, says there's no horrors. Uh sorry, historical or scientific reference to support bleak's claims. Many researchers consider his story to be a fabrication inspired by science fiction and conspiracy theories. There you go. His version of the philadelphia experiment was not part of the original reports or legends but emerged from later, coinciding with the release of the 1984 movie the philadelphia experiment which may have been right said. Then he said so was he right, or is this just a discredit?
Speaker 2:right, that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm playing. You know me, I'm on both sides.
Speaker 1:So you know it's like you know what?
Speaker 3:what is it that we, these guys, even as far as ours- but we're just gonna, we're gonna talk about it like as if it is though, right, okay, fair enough, yeah, but no, but I know what you mean. Yeah, but, but I don't, I don't mean to cut you off. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry at the same time when they did freaking, all right you can't say that anymore.
Speaker 2:Right, right, Exactly. Yeah, I guess I mean because, dude, how would you not be able to cool with that If you lived there for a little while? Exactly. So then you would end up bringing somebody and I laugh because again another movie, Demolition man and instead of using toilet paper they were using seashells. Right, you know what I mean. So it's like you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know well you scrape it all out and got it whatever. But I don't know, man, it's just one of those things you know, you I would love to be able to to. I don't know if I want to say time travel, you know what I mean. I would like to maybe go to different dimensions, just to see how you know, just see what it is for different dimensions to how they live and what they're doing.
Speaker 3:Or like the, or like other dimensions that are slightly different than this dimension.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would like to see that little bit To be like a spectator where you're not necessarily involved or in the way of what's going on.
Speaker 3:But like? What about? Like ones where it's like I went to a dimension where, like, the only differences is that I have blonde hair.
Speaker 2:Or I'm six foot two. Yeah, like that's the difference like everything's the same.
Speaker 3:I'm sitting here right next to you, but I'm just a little taller, yeah maybe I have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe I have hair yeah long like a long hair like a ponytail every time he speaks, his hair just flows in like there's just a breeze. He's just like ah. Shaking his head. I can feel it right now, yeah yes, sure, but yeah, that would be a cool thing for me, you know not so much yes, yes, man, yes, that's funny as hell.
Speaker 2:Cobra kai, yeah, but you know, and that's what I'm saying, dude, that would be. I would like that better, you know, and if these guys had, you know, I wish there was more proof from them, you know what I mean, or just that they were. You know that there was more publications, yeah, that there were more publications, I'm sorry, from from them, things that we could show that it would be able, that it would be substantial proof. You know, to say, yeah, we traveled. You know, I get it like we said before. You know, things should stay some kind of secret, but, man, you know then, but and then the funny, well, not the funny, but the wild is that, yeah, you heard the what's?
Speaker 3:oh sorry, I'm going back and forth too. Go ahead. No, I was saying because on the on it says he he's also linked to other theories too, like the montola project right, an alleged secret program involving time travel, mind control and interdimensional experiences like you were talking about, and then Nikola Tesla's supposed role he claimed Nikola Tesla. Nikola Tesla was involved in early teleportation experiments.
Speaker 2:Now here's the thing too, if we all listen to some crazy shit too man.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the shit. So now.
Speaker 3:Tesla.
Speaker 2:Tesla got kicked in the nuts because of the way that he was trying to do the electricity. It wasn't beneficial to big business.
Speaker 1:He had the right idea, but I think he was going for the Bluetooth thing is what he was trying to do Basically.
Speaker 2:Yes, so then because Edison had turned around and had it that it was going to be monetarily feasible for big business to run the wires, as opposed to having everything through the air for everybody to get. That it was going to be free through Tesla. Tesla was going to give free power to everybody.
Speaker 1:That's not monetarily feasible for any of the big businesses. Hopefully that'll be another thing too, where you can use your own source of power to power your, your home or whatever. What do you mean? Well, you don't have to worry about paying someone else to power your home, whether there's gas, but then that's where.
Speaker 2:Like that, but that's where the windmill comes in, that's where the the solar panels come in and things like that, because if you have them all set up and especially like here, where you are dude, you can literally unplug from the grid and you can do and have your own power here. You know what I mean, so it you can already do that, you know, and uh, but again, tesla was one of the ones. Tesla was almost like the, the, the tony, stark yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:back then, yeah, whatever year is there was I don't know what years yeah whenever, but you know he was a tony stark you know what year did nikola tesla invent the tesla coil?
Speaker 2:nikola tesla developed the tesla coil in 1891 1891 so think about that bro 1891.
Speaker 2:This is what this man is inventing. So now, if in 1891 this was his idea, you figure, five, ten years later, wow, you know, I'm saying that this is what they're talking about with time travel and things like that. Come on, man, that's what. You know what I'm saying? So to me, if we? So what? If tesla was really from the future, yeah, and he was in this, in the Manhattan Project or in the Philadelphia Project, and that he ended up going back that far? Wow, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because if they're saying that he was a part of this, da-da-da, you know what I mean. And because, go, ahead.
Speaker 3:See, it got me thinking. I'm like I thought of this weird theory Go ahead, it's a loophole theory, okay, where there's no, because someone went back in time that there's no origin and no one knows where the origin came from. So, like, get this, this would be a good one of those theories. Say, like a man working for Tesla, right, invents time travel, right, this guy, nikolai. So he goes under this. He works for Tesla, so he goes back in time and uses his name, the name of the company he works for, to invent all this stuff and then Elon Musk goes and invents Tesla and it's like we don't know where the origin started from, because he got it from that, but that came from there, and then that's like one of those theories of I forget what it's called, but it's a time travel theory where there's no origin of something because a paradox is created.
Speaker 3:It's like kind of a paradox. I was saying I was, except the way I was telling Kenny there's, I forget it's like kind of a paradox. I was saying I was, since the way I was telling Kenny there's, I forget. It's like not a paradox theory. I forget what the theory is called. We could probably look it up. But like, where someone goes in time, right, say like Tesla, say this would be an interesting theory because we're talking about Nikola Tesla. Right, Say like someone works for Tesla, right the car company, and they invent time travel. Works for tesla, right the, the car company, and they invent time travel. And then the guy goes back in time and invents all this stuff, but he uses the last name tesla because it was the company's work. Right, he doesn't want to use his real last name in case it comes up. Right?
Speaker 3:yeah and he invents the tesla coil he's nikolai tesla, yeah, and then the company's created off of his name, so where's, where'd it come from right?
Speaker 2:so when did the name?
Speaker 3:Tesla come from. There's no origin.
Speaker 2:now Exactly, it's a loophole and there's a few things like that.
Speaker 3:That's a time travel loophole.
Speaker 1:Right, because there's a few people in history that that applies to. Yeah, where there's no origin, there's no origin to where those people came from, like even with Merlin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Even like, as far as like the Knights of the Round Table yes, merlin is one of those theories you know, because you never saw where he came from, you don't know where he went, you don't know what. You know what I'm saying. Like he's in the story but he had these you know kind of powers and stuff. It was like oh, I'm just saying like I'm with you, brother, that makes crazy sense.
Speaker 3:It's like a Paradox. Paradox is where you mess up the time and space continuum or something. What about this stuff?
Speaker 1:Because I was just thinking about what you guys were saying. Yeah, one of the most famous viral stories about a man with a camera and travel comes from the 1941 photo taken reopening the South Fork Bridge in British.
Speaker 3:Columbia, yes, canada. Someone tried explaining that in a video.
Speaker 1:In the image, among a crowd of people.
Speaker 3:He looks like a hipster.
Speaker 1:Dressed in a 1940s attire. There's a man who appears to be Out of place. Yep, he just wears what looks like A modern Sunglass and logo t-shirt and holds A portable camera. This sparked Internet theories that he was a time traveler.
Speaker 2:Right, he wasn't like a hippie, he was just like us, like diving out. No, it was cool. This is what it says. It says the time traveling.
Speaker 1:Hipster Photo is what it's called.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was called hipster, but they had an explanation Is that people were morally dressed. He looked out of place, but they think he came right from college. Like he came, like he was in school. Oh, okay, and he was in school, oh, okay, and he was dressed like that because he's wearing a lacrosse, because it's like a lacrosse shirt, yeah, and the sunglasses he had they say were around that time, right, and the camera, they think, is like a.
Speaker 2:Oh, the wind of that, yeah, but still it's the whole idea.
Speaker 3:He looks like someone. Right but that maybe it is a time traveler. But maybe that's just Someone just trying to make sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because there's a few things like that, because there was the other one Like the Wasn't. There was a guy that he was. It was the 1940s I think it was 1940s, 1950s and it was the same idea that he was like in the background. And they have him with what's it called? Oh, and what was Keanu Reeves? Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 3:Yes, what about the old like? There's a bunch of paintings of people that look like Keanu Reeves yeah, and you ever realize how Keanu Reeves doesn't seem like he's aging at all. No, at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly, bro. He's like an immortal person.
Speaker 2:Yep, they had a few of those, man, they have a few. There's one, I think it was one, of Tom Cruise. There was what's his name? Oh, jesus, married to Angelina Jolie, not Jesus, no, it wasn't Jesus. Brad Pitt, brad Pitt. There's one of Brad Pitt, I think it was. There was another. There was a couple of actors. There's a handful of them, yeah, but now again, it's one of those things. Is it that it's time travel, or?
Speaker 3:there, or are these people that look like?
Speaker 2:them? Are these people that look like?
Speaker 3:them. These people look like them.
Speaker 2:Or is it that they themselves are traveling in and out of time.
Speaker 1:What about this Time travel caught on film Charlie Chaplin, the Circus 1928.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 1:A clip from a DVD extra of Charlie Chaplin's Circus. The Circus shows a woman walking seemingly down, seemingly talking on a cell phone, decades before such technology existed. Some speculated she was a time traveler. In reality, experts believe she was likely using hearing aid device, which was held similarly to how we hold phones now.
Speaker 2:But wait a minute. But then that was back then Charlie Chaplin days.
Speaker 3:Hmm, I got an interesting theory that.
Speaker 2:I just came up with in my head.
Speaker 3:To explain the old paintings that look like celebrities, right, right. Can you imagine if time travel was, did exist and like there were people that, like they, they went to celebrities to get money? They were like oh, we'll get an old painting made of you in the 1600s, we'll bring you back in time. And you got to give us like two million dollars and they, and now there's a painting out there of keanu reeves because he paid two million dollars to go back in time and have someone paint him up.
Speaker 3:A famous artist paint him up. Well, but then you know what?
Speaker 2:but then that that even with that theory it kind of holds water because they had the I'm gonna tell you what I'm saying da vinci uh, was it.
Speaker 2:Or picasso? They in some of their paintings it's people that are looking up into the sky, right, and we have what looks to be either like ufos or airplanes and things like that. That's the only reason why I'm saying that. You know it looks like it. You know that could hold water that theory you know what I mean that people were actually being brought back into time. You know what I'm saying. It could be. That's, in essence, another shit. I said that's how you know time travel is real right, bro, look what.
Speaker 2:Look at how it is that these, that the elite, rich, yeah, the celebrities, now they are traveling in space, like they're going up in space, and you know the the um uh, was it x? And and um, what was it?
Speaker 3:basel, yeah, basel, basel.
Speaker 2:Here we go. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, dude, if the elite paying for that, the super elite, can probably pay for time travel, and that's probably how they became so rich from the time travel. Going back to what you said, that it could be that it's. You know, musk is the one that went back in and there's no where he came from, who he is, if he's really even he might be the original Tesla.
Speaker 1:Listen to this, this is cool Andrew Carlson, supposed time traveler who turned $800 and $350 million in the stock market, arrested by the SEC. He allegedly claimed to be from 2002-256. No records of him exist beyond the story which originated in the satirical uh um, I'm sorry publication. I apologize right.
Speaker 2:So that then? So that he was born in the in the 20 and so later on. He's not so. He's probably born in 2040 or 2030 yeah and then he comes back in time because he said he's from 2056. You know what I'm saying. So then he was an adult, came back here. That's the hot tub time machine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The dude stayed, he bought a bunch of Google stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, lugol.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lugol, right, yeah, and he was. And poison, exactly, yes, exactly, that's what I'm saying, bro. Listen, all this stuff is amazing. I love all this shit, man. I think it's awesome, you know you should say that you didn't go. Yeah, I said, you know me.
Speaker 1:This stuff doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:But that was, you know, one of the other things that I had said, and we hear people talking about in one of our other shows too how it is that in our dreams they say that our dreams, when we see us ourselves as something else, somebody else as far as, like you know, I'm a rock star here, I'm a race car driver there, I'm the president over here, like all these things. Are you tapping into your um, other person from a different dimension, yeah, who has achieved those things? You know, I'm saying, and if that's the case, if you know, I said, if we're looking at interdimensional travel, right, you know, or it could be that you know, that's just what the different timelines look like because of all the shit, like, was it loki? How all the different timelines happen. Right, that's what I'm saying. And, dude, I keep referencing all these TV shows and movies because that might be where the truth is at. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But so, with that, this was awesome. I had fun with this shit. I appreciate you guys. So, thank you much. Enjoy you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah same here, bro, waiting for that Jesus like pulling teeth and shit, so with that love, peace and hair grease.
Speaker 2:Live long and prosper. Yeah, same here, bro.
Speaker 1:Sorry I'm waiting for that, jesus God, I have to think like pulling teeth and shit.
Speaker 2:I don't know the fuck. You don't like that. So with that, love, peace and hair grease, live long and prosper and go vegan, holla.
