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Unlocking the Third Eye
Have you ever wondered if there's more to your consciousness than what meets the eye? Our fascinating journey into the pineal gland—the mysterious "third eye" nestled within your brain—might just change how you think about meditation, spirituality, and your own untapped potential.
We dive deep into this pea-sized powerhouse that scientists know produces melatonin and regulates sleep, but spiritual traditions worldwide claim does much more. From ancient wisdom traditions to modern neuroscience, the pineal gland sits at a fascinating intersection where science meets spirituality. Is this tiny brain structure truly the gateway to heightened awareness, intuition, and spiritual experiences that many claim it to be?
The conversation takes unexpected turns as we share personal meditation experiences, discuss fluoride's potential effects on brain health, and explore how sound therapy might activate altered states of consciousness. You'll hear about different meditation techniques that could help you access your own "third eye," whether through traditional meditation, sound frequencies, or even finding that flow state during physical activities like running or biking.
Perhaps most thought-provoking is our discussion about spiritual sensitivity and empathy. "People who are spiritually minded tend to suffer from anxiety and depression more because their eyes are open to a world in need of repair." This powerful insight leads us to reflect on how heightened awareness connects to emotional sensitivity—and whether developing your pineal gland's potential might change how you perceive the world around you.
Whether you're a meditation enthusiast, spiritually curious, or simply fascinated by the untapped potential of your own brain, this episode offers something valuable for everyone. Try one of our suggested meditation techniques tonight and see what happens when you begin to open your third eye!
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Hello and welcome to Common Crawford, the Jersey Guy podcast. I'm Lewis here with my boy Kenny and, of course, the Jersey Guy Tom. What up, Gentlemen? How are you? How you doing? All right, Eximilente.
Speaker 2:I enjoy the swagger that Lou just had given.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna try to do that as best.
Speaker 3:I can super relaxed, super relaxed it's gotta be man? Yes, but you know what? We can see that and sense it. Yeah, with our pineal gland, with our pineal gland.
Speaker 2:That's right, which is what we will be talking about.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:That was good, right, that was a good segue right.
Speaker 1:I always see stuff on like. Of course it's on social media and most of the time it's Instagram. You know it's always got. I try to put up healthy stuff when I share stuff from my thing to Facebook.
Speaker 3:So any stuff like that, meditation, anything like that? The pineal gland, supposedly, is your third eye right, and if you know how to learn how to use it, that's what the thing is. So now, uh, the pineal gland is a p-sides conical mass of tissue behind the third ventricle of the brain, secreting a hormone-like substance in some mammals. We happen to be one of those. Some mammals, yes, sir, and um, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Is it a real thing or is it a theory?
Speaker 3:No, it's a real thing, it is a real thing, it's a real thing, but it's what the definition of third eye I think is where it's it's melatonin production.
Speaker 1:The thing is yeah, got it. Circadian rhythms and potential links to brain health, anatomy of the function, the pineal glands, a role in the melatonin production. So it's there. So that's where we get all that Very cool. Yeah, that's pretty wild. So again, it's the.
Speaker 2:It's a chemical-producing gland Right, and it produces what chemicals? Is it just serotonin or is it several different?
Speaker 1:No, it's I'm sorry, it was melatonin production and circadian rhythms and potential links. And here it says calcification. Calcification excuse me, got it how fluoride, diet and aging affect the gland and whether decalification methods work. There it is. So then it's so I guess you know, if you don't take, you know, because you know that's another thing. They talk about how fluoride. You notice how that fluoride is like nobody's really for it. Now they're trying to get it out of the water. They're saying it's really not good for you. They say that.
Speaker 2:But how come all the kid vitamins have fluoride in them? I know this, I'm saying so.
Speaker 1:There's two sides of the story, Like the ones that the doctors prescribe.
Speaker 2:They say the good stuff and then I mean like you, actually ingest the fluoride Right Because it's supposed to.
Speaker 1:I always thought it was a good thing All my life. We grew up with it.
Speaker 2:As your teeth are growing and getting enameled, your adult teeth are getting fluoridated Right, supposedly and making are getting fluoridated supposedly, and making them stronger and harder and less susceptible, so you have a stronger enamel as an adult.
Speaker 3:Remember we spoke on some of the things that our country still has that other countries don't.
Speaker 1:Right about foods that we make in this country where they're banned in other countries. This is probably one of those same things, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Now it's coming out that it's falling into that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean what the, what the heck, because I've been given this well, we can look that up to my kid, but it's so, I guess.
Speaker 3:But it's like anything else though. Yeah, how much of the bad can we deal with? Take, yeah, we, you know to to get the, the, the benefits. Right, you know what I mean? Right, like you see, half the commercials you see on tv is like because it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not. That is true about the teeth. It does do that for your teeth, but what?
Speaker 3:else what is it doing to you like is yeah, did it give you your adhd?
Speaker 2:yeah you know what I'm saying. Did it give me my arthritis to the?
Speaker 3:yeah, you know, because of whatever genes we had, like you know exactly mutants.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Well, check this out.
Speaker 1:Neurochemistry and DMT Debate over whether the pineal gland produces. I'm going to try to pronounce this dimethyloproteinaminin DMT I'm probably saying that totally wrong which links to mystical experiences, right?
Speaker 3:You're right. So, like you said, so it the pineal gland. People have always said that it when you learn how to meditate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's where your third eye is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3:So then now, when you smoke weed, yeah Well, back in the day it was people meditating. You know silence, sound, you know whatever things that they were doing.
Speaker 2:Well, think about how, when you're meditating, it's supposed to be like a super relaxed state.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Right how, when you're meditating, it's supposed to be like a super relaxed state.
Speaker 2:If your pineal gland produces melatonin, then that has something probably to do with what happens when you're meditating, is it starts producing that chemical, exactly, and you start to get that dream state maybe and that's why you're able to, when you meditate, to get, because I tell you've done meditations before and like you get into some weird places. Right, it's really weird, especially the guided meditation ones, right, right, like you, your imagination takes over so vividly sometimes, right, like you, you could like like they're like, oh, and you're in a forest and in the tree. You get closer to the tree line and you see a door in a tree and you open the door and you go into the tree right, and you're in a living room inside of a tree you know like and like you, you, you, you're there, you know what I mean exactly, and that's the whole thing, so that that's also kind of hypnosis
Speaker 2:a little bit involved in there, but it's voluntary people think hypnosis as like barks, like a dog yeah, like that's not. Yeah, like hypnosis is is very different.
Speaker 3:It's just, uh, putting you in this like dreamlike state where you're like you're, you're like in a vivid dream, right so now it's a how you get there though, right, right, so that then, like you know it, people that go to the gym, right, they say that they feel this. You know, uh, almost euphoria, endorphins, because the endorphins and they're getting in that workout, and you know, runners, they get the runners high. You know saying so, all these things that you know that that's probably how it is, too, when we, you know, if we learn how to meditate to the point where we're going to open up our third eye, you know what I mean. And I mean, dude, I'm gonna tell you what. When they say, spiritually, that the third eye helps, you see things, read people, you know saying, um, feel yourself that you can. You know, like you just see people's official aura. You know, like you see the color on their stuff. You're seeing, right, their energy.
Speaker 1:You're seeing their energy exactly.
Speaker 2:So now, how freaking cool is that you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean what about that expression? I've been hearing this a lot in reference to this stuff. When it says to let go so like, so, let's say in reference to this stuff. When it says to let go so like so, let's say sometimes when I'm laying in bed and I want to go to sleep, right, I can find myself Sounds so Jedi-like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know right yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I just lay down All right, let me let go. So I'm trying to listen. Instead of one noise, I'm trying to find as many as I can find. Wow, while I was sleeping I had my mind just bouncing Listen and then, before you know it, you're out.
Speaker 3:Well, don't they say that you should concentrate on the one Right?
Speaker 1:but doing that doesn't work for me because I still wander.
Speaker 3:But then how did your tinnitus work so?
Speaker 1:I just let go and I allowed myself to have all my senses, just feel everything around me and then just use it that way, rather than try to focus it on the one and just let it all work. That's wild that's wild at least, that's how right, right.
Speaker 3:No, that makes sense. I I hear you, so now I'm sure there's more than one way of achieving that oh yeah, definitely, I believe there is too all day long. So now, scientifically, though modern science does not support the spiritual interpretation of the pineal gland, it is a primarily viewed. It is primarily viewed as an endocrine organ that plays a crucial role in regulating uh, circadian rhythms and sleep, like you said before. Right, so then to me doing the sound therapy that then that would trigger that too.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 3:And then you know, like I said again, see, we're freaking geniuses and we don't even know it, because we've talked about like this kind of stuff and other things and it's wild how all the everything's connected, Everything that we say is so connected.
Speaker 1:Because it doesn't mean you have to. You could do all of them, or you could do a combination of them.
Speaker 2:Crazy, though, how certain things like sound.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Like, again, I've done some of this spiritual stuff. I've gotten with Suzanne, we've gotten together and like they do like this, like we went to this one, it was like a shaman one and they like bang the drum Right. And that vibration at that tune is get your body to start, your brain to start secreting, like those endorphins and all that from your pineal gland.
Speaker 3:Right, so that's the whole part about it.
Speaker 2:There's something, that frequency, that actually gets your brain to produce that which is wild yeah.
Speaker 3:Because that's what they say is, along with meditation and that, but your whole, your whole body too, if like, if you're what your whole body too, like your chi right.
Speaker 1:My instructor would say come from your chi, meaning get it from your center.
Speaker 2:The nerd in me wants to know the scientific. I know it does that and it's like magic, right. But I want to know the scientific part of it. What does it do? Is it right?
Speaker 3:But I want to know the scientific part of it.
Speaker 1:What does it do Is?
Speaker 2:it frequency your body just like Just allowing your body to tune into what's around you is really what it is.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing you said. It's a force man.
Speaker 3:But the scientific isn't the sound. Yeah, the scientific is just that it's something there and, like I said before, when you're doing something that you enjoy, so, like you go to the dojo, you know you um when you're reading something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know texting up on studying or whatever. My music yeah me, you know, when I'm driving like it's just those things, those moments that we have, that are our quote-unquote meditation, and that's what science says is what brings those things out, because that's what makes us happy. We're in a happy place when we do those things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so that's so, that's the scientific, but don't forget about yeah, right, but don't forget right. So then, going back to the spiritual part, what is with meditation and all the chakras and all that and focusing your energy. Yeah, I believe that's pretty powerful stuff, because if you can get into that, find that spot and channel into that, they say it's almost as if you're able to know what it's like when you're going to die, kind of.
Speaker 3:Thing.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, the closest thing you'll get to. Okay, as far as I mean, if you can get your meditation to that point, you might be able to experience that experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, then I'm like I don't know, Remember what I was telling you earlier.
Speaker 1:I was telling you earlier, I was telling you. There was a gentleman on Instagram and he was talking about how, when you pass away, you could either get recycled, go back, follow the light you go through, you get recycled and then you come back. Or when you get there, instead of going towards the light, turn around and you'll see the universe. Then you could decide to go home home, and it'll take you right where you're from. As far as your home is concerned, this way they the way they said it.
Speaker 1:I'm like well, that's pretty freaking wild right. Who knew that you could turn around when you're there? Like oh, wait a minute, excuse me, yeah nice light.
Speaker 3:Hold on a minute hold on.
Speaker 1:I want to go this way, yo right I heard that, but that's pretty cool, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, I heard that theory too about turning around. Instead, they'll don't go into light, turn around and go home. They said now, but yeah, so, but, but home, like where your origin is before being here on earth yeah right, but exactly yeah, that's exactly right there's meaning that as much as as in this theory we came from stars man as much as there is as afterlife there's also a before life that we don't know right how many times and how many times did we go to light?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, exactly. And recycle. How many times have I been recycled?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably why you're crazy now.
Speaker 2:Now you know now, you know, now, you know turn around, yeah, turn around this time. Remember that, pay attention, bro, turn around.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this time remember that. Pay attention, bro, turn around, don't forget that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep your head on the swivel everyone listening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep your head on the swivel right, look around.
Speaker 1:But it was like a positive thing, it was like you could do that. You could go towards the light which you know. You'll see people that you've missed and lost and everything, and then you'll just into the that's what the whole idea was that's one version that's one theory of it, right?
Speaker 3:so I'm sure there's many different, you know right, so that then, now is it a matter of you becoming, you being so in tune, like is it only the people that have actually well, what we believe to have opened the third eye that can do that? No, that's not necessarily when you die.
Speaker 1:When you die, you know, most people never do that stuff. I'm assuming when they pass away, you know, or they have a near-death experience or something they come back and they have, they can tell you what they saw. Right. It's basically you couldn't be something that would happen if you were meditating, you know. Think of it that.
Speaker 3:But they didn't have to. So you haven't had that experience, that near-death experience. Thank God, I don't think so. So then now, when it gets to that time for you, then is it that are you still going to have? I guess we'll say this conversation in your head, in your spiritual mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my views have not changed since as long as I've been alive, that you'll know to turn around and look the other way.
Speaker 3:Oh, now that it's in my mind. I think I know that's what I'm asking I might do it. I don't know if I would be able to say that I hope so. I hope I remember.
Speaker 1:I hope I don't go to his life and go. Oh, I forgot.
Speaker 2:Like oh man. I didn't want to make the last Wait. Hey, if we can recycle, I can get a do-over?
Speaker 3:Can I get a transfer? I want to go down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just imagine. That.
Speaker 3:Blue, no red.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, that's right, bobby Python.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, oh my God, that's great, but yeah, you know. So it's the gland. It's a gland Right In the brain. It's the gland. It's a gland Right In the brain If we go by what you guys were just saying we are the beings and we're just Mysterious in its own way. Yes, right, yeah, and we're just in this meat bag right now for us to live here. Move on to the next place, and now-.
Speaker 2:This is just a step in life, which also lines up with simulation theory that this place is the simulation that we placed this where, the life that we're in, because if there's before life and after life, that means we dip in here and then go back out. You know what I'm saying which kind of is like a simulation, if you think about it. So that theory that you're talking about, there's a theory that adds to that, where it's not really the simulation theory, but it's like we live in the fifth dimension our, our souls our, our essence we are the soul like right, and we go here to experience life in the 3d world and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then we learn our lesson and then we go back out and we've like changed.
Speaker 2:Like you know, we're different now, we're improved. Hope you are or worse. Yeah, you know what I mean, which is like heaven or hell, like you're a worse person or you're a better person, and not hell being or heaven being a place.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Your person or you're a better person and not helping, uh, or having being a place. Well, I don't know your, your mind. You know you're in a better place now you're. You know you've improved or you've digressed you know what if we?
Speaker 3:so what if as a person?
Speaker 2:so then you go back here, you say. Then you go back and be recycled because, uh, you know what I'm not improved, I gotta go back and you know well.
Speaker 3:So then what if everybody's here, voluntary, everybody that's here. We go by your, your theory. Right now we all have our third eye is open.
Speaker 1:We're there, we're meditating where those just don't know how to use it, that's all no, that we all know how to use it, and this is here.
Speaker 2:This is our um like you said, simulation, this is our simulation we'll go to because we're all linked, yeah, so we're all trying to be.
Speaker 3:This is our penance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're here to improve ourselves.
Speaker 3:And we have the third eye power. That's an interesting theory we just don't have we're not good enough.
Speaker 2:It's not really heaven or hell, it's just like it's that predatory. It's like oh, it's like, oh. I still got to work on myself a little bit. You know, I did this in life and it never I never like got past it. So I'm going to go back. I need to learn another lesson, but then you might have another problem.
Speaker 1:You know, it might have something else that might happen to you in life.
Speaker 3:But then now, here's why I have a problem with that, though Only because so many things change so many things, we, we evolution has made us different creatures every generation. I'll say you know what I mean. So, like you know, for us, when we would that's like you know ride your bike and fall off the bike and it's like whatever, and get up, get back, up now the kids are like no, no, lou, tom, don't feel that way.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, your feelings, talk to me about your feelings. Meanwhile, for us we're like get the fuck out of here, get your ass up, go do whatever, not on everything. I'm not saying, you know we do. We talk a lot about them. You know when people are feeling, you know in their feelings and you need to express and take care of yourself. I'm what we would. You know, some people consider bullshit, others think it's a big deal. You know, is this our penance?
Speaker 1:You know, and that third eye, like you're saying, like this is our simulation, so we haven't gotten over that you know, yeah, yeah, if you're sent back again, if you go back again, it's because of something that you weren't, you didn't accomplish. In you get to something that you, where you actually became a better person maybe Okay, you know what I mean. Yeah, now do you feel Giving you another chance so you could either go somewhere else because, listen, they've had near-death experiences of people who've tried to kill themselves. Right, and when they prescribed what they saw when they came back, it wasn't good, no, no, it was bad. Oh, really, yeah, why it wasn't good?
Speaker 1:no, no, it was bad oh really yeah, it was dark, it was dreary because they took their own life right. It was sad.
Speaker 3:It was the worst, like the worst, like depression you could ever have but then that goes to, I think, what I had asked earlier, maybe differently, maybe I didn't own in my head, but anyway, like then, the last thing you were feeling going through dealing with that made you commit suicide. Is that what? That's what you're seeing, because you left on a bad note. It's like you turn around and you fall asleep in a bad mood and you're going to be, you know if you're already depressed and you're already suicidal, it's just right, so then it's all of it.
Speaker 1:So now, when you're recycling, this one's saying at one time right.
Speaker 3:So when you come back and you're recycled you, you come back. That you know.
Speaker 1:I'm saying yeah, yeah, you come back with that mental, with that feeling, that idea this is what I'm saying, you're right so hopefully you learn right and you come back look we're not gonna really know until it's time right right, oh no, I do believe we will move to the next step.
Speaker 2:There is another step.
Speaker 3:If the atheist is the correct theory. You're not going to know, You're just going to go.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I shouldn't have turned around. Well, if we believe in dimensions and all that other time, who's to say that when we do die, now we graduated to the next dimension, which is the next step, or another type of life more spiritual? Yeah, you know, it could be described in any way when you think about it. Right, it's interesting to figure out. I do believe something will happen. I believe I'll see people I've lost before me and my animals and all that, yeah, but then again I don't know. I don before me and my animals and all that, but then again I don't know I don't know, I don't remember dying, but maybe I'm going to try this time.
Speaker 1:See what happens.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no no, yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know, I don't know I think I don't know, Tom, you messed me up with that theory, bro.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Sorry, I put it out there. I put it out there Now, I just. Yeah, it's not like no.
Speaker 3:You know. So again, if this is and we're saying spiritually that the pineal gland, you know, maybe that's the key to everybody being healthy. Maybe you know what I mean. Maybe that's what I mean, Maybe, Like that's what it is, Like part of the simulation is you know what I'm saying. These are the things that we, you know I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's good to you know, meditate and stuff like that it's healthy and people feel better. I mean studies have shown like it's like help people, even people even physically like, with their physical health, because it reduces stress and all that. Yeah, absolutely so. That's like all that stuff you know that actually, so it actually does lead to physical health a healthy pineal gland.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so meditation or listen, if you can, if you learn how to do so, think of where that thing is in your head. Not only do you have to now practice to try to figure out how to use it right. First you got to figure out how to do that, so that alone has to be hard, right?
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, because none of us really feel that we are ever not. I'm talking about us right here. We don't ever feel that kind of relaxed, we don't feel that we've reached it yet.
Speaker 1:I think maybe we have in certain things, like you said earlier.
Speaker 2:And that also talks about enlightenment, right, right, what the Buddhists talk about, like you have.
Speaker 3:Is that what we're talking about Right right Going in that direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Then that's opening that third eye that's supposed to be Is that like it's like a state of being Right Like in latent.
Speaker 2:Right, I don't know what that is. That's like opening the pineal gland all the way.
Speaker 3:Right, exactly. So now here's what a wild part is. Now I'm seeing more.
Speaker 2:Is it supposed to be like a feeling, like a high? Or is it just like this knowledge it's just a knowledge. Yeah, it's a knowledge, because now I've seen more monks.
Speaker 3:More monks have come to the mainstream. A lot more shamans have come up into the mainstream. Is it just a hoax, Like you know, these guys just trying to make money off of people or are they really giving you that? Like? I follow a monk. He's a younger dude. He's not even an old guy, I think. I know you, Everything's connected man, the, a younger dude, he's not even an old guy and, um, I think I know everything's connected man.
Speaker 1:The universe is connected, we're connected. That's what he said. You might have shared stuff, you know. I think maybe you say, if you put the energy out there, if you think about negative things all time, that's all you're gonna attract to yourself it's like so everything you're, you're in control, it's just a matter of learning how to steer your ship right.
Speaker 3:What this guy is saying. Yeah, you know this particular monk and there's more of them coming out. There's more of them being the positive or trying to give you that positive thought process. He's a monk that I follow on.
Speaker 1:We follow on as well.
Speaker 3:The young guy. He's a younger monk guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he does he tells you about how you should. You know how to focus and you know if you're going to do this or that. He's playing him straight about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because there's a couple of shamans that I've seen too Really good. Yeah, that are pretty cool. Here's something.
Speaker 1:I want to read to you guys, okay. Because I was always trying to describe how I feel, right, spiritually. Okay, okay, how I feel Spiritually. People who are spiritually minded tend to suffer from anxiety and depression more. You know why? Because their eyes are open to the world that is in need of repair. They literally have an increased ability to feel the emotions of people around them. That's exactly on the money of how I feel. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's being like an empath.
Speaker 1:As people, I feel, yeah, I can get emotional on the drop of a dime, if something, if I think about something, that's you know has to do with the planet or whatever, right it. Just you're an empathic person. I try. Well, I I believe I am. Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now.
Speaker 3:In some sense it works.
Speaker 1:I just Notice things now and it hurts you when you think about it and you're like, oh man.
Speaker 3:You can't do nothing.
Speaker 1:You're powerless. You know, it's just like a frustration almost, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But that's what I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm saying about what we're talking about now. You know your spirituality, the other one's control, you have to steer it. So if you go negative, that's who you're going to be. If you go positive or try to stay in the middle but that's life, you know what I mean do the best you can. Hopefully, you know, at the end, yeah, you come out better. On the other end, you know, you feel good about it or whatever. Hopefully you know, you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because the one thing I haven't been able to find was you know if, scientifically, there's a way to get that pineal gland up and pumping. You know what I mean? Yeah, you could do.
Speaker 1:There are actually YouTube videos on there where they tell, they tell you how to meditate and what to do in order to well no, no, that's meditation, that's spiritual.
Speaker 3:It's not like you go to the doctor he's going to turn around like bing smack you in your forehead.
Speaker 1:Well, serotonin, serotonin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but right. So then it's just you taking pills Dopamine too, right, but it's just you taking the pill or that medication, over-the-counter stuff. It's not that the scientists could turn around, like I said, and pin you in the forehead and it's going to be like now it's open, now these are the things that you do. This is your physical therapy to make this stay happening.
Speaker 1:I find the best time to do it is when I'm sleeping, because I'm laying down, I can close my eyes and I, just like I said earlier, I was focusing. You're focusing, don't you ever feel like when you lock into something and then, the next thing you know, you don't even remember that you fell asleep, right? Yes, and then when?
Speaker 1:you wake up you don't realize it. You remember what you were doing before you fell asleep, right? Yeah, but your mind, if you try to focus it in and not fight against it, and just you know what I'm saying? Yeah, at least for me anyway, because we're all different, we all have to figure out our own way of working that out. You know what I started doing. I started doing.
Speaker 2:I started hypnotizing myself to sleep. Really, I do a guided meditation. Well, it's kind of like a guided meditation In my head. I go, you know, my head's relaxed, my eyebrows are starting to get heavy. You're talking to yourself. You know how they do that during a meditation yeah. My elbows are starting to get loose, relaxed, the muscle fibers are loose. I say it to myself in my head. You know what I mean, right, right, and you actually start to relax and then falling deeper into sleep. You can actually meditate yourself. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:It works. That's what I'm saying, and it works. There's so many different ways you can do it right. That's a great way to do it. That's awesome. I never even.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think I'd be able to do that for me, you know that's what I'm saying, like you say it's like a practice, you can't listen to that sound it's too soothing for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, maybe that's the thing. Maybe you shoulders got all relaxed. See here, past it. Just I'm trying to hear.
Speaker 3:Past it let it be on, but try to hear past it as well I, I mean I want to go to like the sound therapy with the bowls, like I did. That too, I want to do it again I think that is something else.
Speaker 2:That sound does that frequency, does something absolutely does something right, and you know what I'm saying. And there's a scientific so that's why I think, when people are skeptics, that they don't understand like it does something to the certain, to the chemical production your brain, it activates it.
Speaker 3:It does something well, and that's the thing you know. I bugged out that, yeah, it is, and it's a literal scientific because like that sound must have a frequency right. It has to, and that's what remember.
Speaker 2:Lou was talking about the sound frequencies. We're talking about that in another episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it was so. Right now, science already knows that there's, and your brain? Adjusts and it goes to that and focuses in but science already knows that there's a tone, a sound, there's sound waves that you know flow through space, even though there's no, you know atmosphere in space. But it's just like there's sounds, there's these tones that we can pick up. There's tones, there's sounds, vibrations here on the planet, and when we are off physically, we right, we we're not right.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying we're in pain, we're right, you know feeling, whatever issue the universe is not in balance right, so that at that moment for us, everybody in particular, so then going to and then you feel everybody else, because somebody else could throw you off. Exactly Right.
Speaker 1:Except then. Now you go to the sound things.
Speaker 2:That one person. That's always negative.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah, somebody's on an A minor and you know you're on a B Right and you you're on a B and it's throwing your whole vibe off. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:And then there are times right when, think about it, you get through it without a problem, right, sometimes you can you just you notice that it's not even affecting you.
Speaker 3:You don't even hear it.
Speaker 1:You were able to tune it out. Maybe that's the part of it, that's the pineal gland where you're able to have that sense versus the pineal gland where you're able to have that sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, versus, because not talking about it's easy to get annoyed, right, it's easy to get pissed off and allow yourself to get like you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, like, right away, somebody out, then having the discipline to try to focus in, if we, you know, right, like my cousin right now.
Speaker 3:She went and she had knee surgery. My cousin jesse just out and uh, she, she's having a hard time to get up and walk around and to move around and all that stuff because it hurts. Yeah Right, but I believe that she's not doing, she's not trying hard enough, only because I know her, you know what I'm saying and I know that she's capable.
Speaker 1:Does she listen to this podcast?
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know that she can get up and go. Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah. So I know that she can get up. I already told her that I was on the phone with her and I was like yo, just get your ass up and start walking up and on the stairs, like what are you doing? Like this isn't like for you.
Speaker 1:You gotta be so comfortable you gotta fix for a reason. So now you know. So now bear what you got. You got to bear it out now, right?
Speaker 3:so now for me, because she is, you know, a spirit not like religious, but she is, you know, a spirit not like religious, but she is a spiritual person, you know. And I'm wondering now, you know doing the sound meditation, her meditating she can relax.
Speaker 3:It would be much better for her being able to actually move her knee during a meditation you know what I'm saying During, you know, a sound bath, during something that would end up getting you know, because my cousin, she's intuitive as a motherfucker, you know what I mean. So I'm thinking that she, you know, she could, you know, get to that pineal gland and, you know, make herself better With the universe.
Speaker 3:Right, exactly. And she can dude, she can Channel in Because she's a pain in the ass. She knows what I'm talking about, her too, so she's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1:She knows what I'm talking about, her too, so she's going to probably call me later. We do it to our own selves. We're stubborn, right, we all have our own thing. Sometimes a person who's able to do that easily, maybe that one time they're not being able to, and that one person who has a hard time is able to get them to see the other way to do it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's weird, yeah, because we're all different you know all different personalities.
Speaker 1:It takes different things, different life experiences right well, we're all different everything comes into you know, you gotta, I think you have to take all that into account right, oh, yeah, definitely that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I think we're all different, but the same. You know, it's just a matter of the process to get to that point. You know, I'm saying, like, the way that tom thinks about it, the way you think about it, the way that tom thinks about it, the way you think about it, the way that I think about it, we're thinking about the same thing. We hear the words, but all the words sound different to us, right? You know what I mean? We understanding them different when we learn, when we're in school, and we're learning something I didn't understand when the teacher said that's black and it's got lines on it, and then you heard lines on the black, and then you heard color, what you know what I'm saying? And it's like it's all those things that we think you know that it's like oh, because, like I said, there's conversations that I'll have with you and you're like wait, what, what the hell are you talking about? And and tom will be like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and you're like vice versa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same thing, with all you know what I'm saying, right?
Speaker 3:exactly. You know what I mean so then for sure that's why you know again, yeah, man, that's not a bad idea for for us to to really, uh, probably tap into this pineal gland like serious shit, man, this should be something that everybody gives a shot at. You know, like I said, scientists, they can't disprove anything, they don't believe any of that science is different.
Speaker 1:They need fact. That's the whole thing about science and so they but there is science behind it, right, there is I think it's coming in your brain triggers I think science is coming around, though, because they sought to realize there is something else and there's something else going on.
Speaker 2:Produces mixed together right.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, because it's the endorphins, yeah, that help you do better when you're feeling better and you know those endorphins kicking. Like I was saying earlier with tom, you know it. The gym heads you know people go to the gym and they have that. You know that they get to that point where they're just you know the, what I said, the runners high. You know the, the endorphins that are pumped out. You know you. Look at the people that are super thrill seekers. You know they're. You know the sky diving, the, the just all those crazy sports. You know the downhill racing you know the, the BMX guys that doing all the Like, all those things. You know that gets it in there.
Speaker 2:And that's their meditation.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, they're zoned in right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because a lot of those guys they get in.
Speaker 1:That's their thing, that's their groove.
Speaker 3:So that's their happy place, right when you know God forbid. But when they get hurt, they were in a great moment. They were in a good place in their head most of the time. You know what I'm saying Because they're doing what they love to do and they heal fairly quick. You know what I'm saying. They're not just they're looking, They've already gotten in there. They're doing the physical training.
Speaker 3:They're doing all the things that they got to do to get back out there because that's where their happy place is. So now their body's kicking out all those. You know all the good stuff. You know what I'm saying for them to to get back in out there to go and do all the the stuff that they love to do and get back in same thing like the runner's high.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's just. It's exactly that's crazy when you get that second wind. Yeah, it's a wild thing 30 miles in.
Speaker 1:All of a sudden you're just like yeah, exactly yeah, that never happened to me.
Speaker 3:Really Well, I never did it for running Me either, I never did it for running.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big running person. I've run a few miles, I've done that before, but I'd rather just I haven't run in years. Do the cardio.
Speaker 3:But I could bike ride, walk. Bike ride. I could bike ride. I can't do the running, the running, the running's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I could same thing with biking.
Speaker 1:I could. I'm just not a big fan of it.
Speaker 3:Right yeah, eventually your endorphins just kick in when I was a kid I had that, but that was bike riding through the five boroughs. You know what I'm saying and it's literally uphill, going uptown into Manhattan and then downhill coming back down and coming back into Brooklyn. You know what I mean. It's insane, but I had that second wind, granted, I was young and your body doesn't really feel that kind of whatever.
Speaker 2:Did you ever go?
Speaker 3:to Staten Island too. No, because I didn't have the— yeah, dude, no, no, I didn hill because no, because I didn't have the. Yeah, dude, no, no, I didn't go because uh to go over the bridge. Uh, was verizon. You can't do it with a bike. No, not on the verizon, not then you couldn't. Yeah, and then now to get onto the ferry. Well, back then, to get on the staten on the ferry, you had to pay, and you know, a lot of times I just had it in my pocket yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:No, I wasn't gonna make that happen, you know, until I got older, but then by that time I was-.
Speaker 2:I didn't know.
Speaker 3:the Verrazano Bridge you couldn't cross, yeah no, not on a bicycle, but by walking or whatever. No, I know the George Washington Bridge. You can GW, yes, yes, yes, I never went over to GW, though. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:That's really funny?
Speaker 3:No, because when I went up go to Spanish Harlem, so I would make the right, not the left. Could you bring him on the subway? Yes, you could take your bicycles on the subway.
Speaker 2:So if you really wanted to, if you did want to go to Jersey, it wouldn't be that bad. You just take the subway to, like you know, to GW, to GW, and then just get out, because it's right there and then just ride your bike in Jersey. Right, yeah, you could nicer there. There's a lot of stuff in Fort Lee to do, but like yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:But see, that's the third eye, because now you're going to sit there and you're like oh, I think if you're in tune with your body Right and your mind and you're in a good place.
Speaker 2:You'll have those moments. You'll have those moments, yes.
Speaker 1:You, you know, yeah right, you'll have those moments where you you're zoned in.
Speaker 3:You had those moments where you're not, you're not doing, whatever's going on, but then you figure it out and you just work through it. Yeah, yeah, but you have to and I think you're right. You're a million percent on that one, bro. Million percent, million percent. Listen, I, I, I know I keep saying it. I've been doing it little by little for me. You know, when we've talked about meditation in the past and you know just that, getting to that relaxation, you know however way it is that I get to it. Yeah, it's harder than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1:It's really. That was the thing too, for me too. That's why I was saying to you earlier. I said, okay, if this way is not working. And they say to let go right, meaning not to try to channel, or to I was like, okay, let go. So I just listen, lay there, listen to everything your mind starts to you feel it bouncing around, but in a good way, right, because now you're focusing, you're reaching out almost in a sense, and you're hearing all the other different things going on, right, right.
Speaker 1:So now that's like it was and I'm out cold, I'm sleeping. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, you know. So I know it's working. So so for me, because I can just fall asleep.
Speaker 3:I can just like you know well, that's great too if you go at times she falls asleep like, yeah, as soon as she hits the pillow out.
Speaker 1:My brain is on overdrive, my brain is already. I have to because I'm. My mind is active it's all over the place, even when I'm sleeping. Now, if I'm super tired, I'll crash, but I'm tired, but my mind is still wandering. I have to focus in and do what I was saying earlier. That's why to kind of just like okay, just let it go and and submit and go to sleep.
Speaker 3:Do you need to do the same thing really, like I know you said that you have like a sleep apnea, not apnea um insomnia insomnia yeah but I have sleep maintenance insomnia, so I don't have trouble going to sleep.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's I think, I? If yeah, I wake up, and which?
Speaker 3:is why I now, as soon as you wake up, do you find yourself that you're thinking of too many things?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my brain just activates.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:So you couldn't go right back to bed and just lay down after that? See, I can, that I can do.
Speaker 2:My brain just goes you're on. That sucks. It's gradual, though. It just warms up like an oven.
Speaker 1:It's like See, maybe that's one of those things.
Speaker 3:if you do meditation, it's like a slow wheel winding up faster and faster until it goes to full speed. Well, like Lou was saying, do you think?
Speaker 1:that if you could meditate, some type of meditation you might be able to do for it.
Speaker 2:I should try Well, I need to to try and start doing that, but I haven't tried. I don't know why I haven't, but I only started doing this sleep meditation a couple nights Right. But I don't really wake up a lot now, because that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 3:I have Right, I got you Medical cannabis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever works, that's what helps me sleep like a baby every night.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, bro, oh yeah, Works very well. That's why.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I mean. I think we talked on another episode where we said the more we get in touch not only with ourselves, but with the planet, the earth, the natural things, we were able to finally allow our instincts and things to do what they normally should do, because you get away from that because of technology and advancement in life. So now you're a little reliant on that stuff, when, if you've learned to at some point learn those other skills while in that type of life, that's huge.
Speaker 2:If you can do it.
Speaker 1:I think we all do to some extent, some better than others.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you can do it. Yeah, I think we all do to some extent, some better than others. Yeah, I think I'm going to really seriously be super vigilant to make that happen. I'm not going to say I'm going to have my third eye, I'm going to meditate and float.
Speaker 1:Try to just get it to work for you first.
Speaker 3:I'm going to try different ways of meditating. Remember.
Speaker 2:I remember we talked about this. We talked about this when Suzanne was on. Like, meditating doesn't always have to be your stereotypical Like sometimes just when you're mowing the lawn your mind gets in that meditative spot.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly right. And I haven't had enough of that there's doing.
Speaker 2:You get in that mental state just by doing things Right.
Speaker 1:So I haven't gotten into where I'm just doing and you get into the zone of that.
Speaker 3:Right, I haven't had a chance in a while. Just things have been kind of hectic for me so I haven't had a chance to be able to find my one thing again, to be able to just sit and have that moment in my own head where I'm at that kind of peace.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean.
Speaker 3:That's what I got to start doing again. The bicycle's getting ready to come back out, Weather's breaking.
Speaker 2:Yes weather's getting nice.
Speaker 1:That's good, absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's going to be definite. I'd like to get a bike. Get one, bro, and you know what. We can. Meet up, lou and I used to get mine looked at and see if I can.
Speaker 1:I definitely want to do it, for sure, and then we can meditate together on our bikes we could do on the bike and talk to people on the bike trail that's not meditation.
Speaker 3:Why not? He won't meditate. What are those?
Speaker 2:I'll just be like yeah that's great.
Speaker 3:What am I looking at? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're better. There you go. Oh, it took my picture. You are looking at two men sitting in front of microphones, likely in a recording studio or podcast setting. There it is. There you go.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it, it's awesome.
Speaker 3:That's freaking great, but yeah, so with that, my peoples appreciate y'all being here. Thank you for hanging out with us. Yes, sir, don't hurt anybody, you're good with the metal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, until next time Until next time, Should I say ask it. Ask it say goodbye, right, see if it says it. You want to say goodbye to everybody on the podcast. Wait, nope, maybe not Start playing music instead. Bye well, bye well.
Speaker 3:It's all good Fail. Thank you all for listening. Love, peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper. Go vegan, holla, we'll see you next time.
