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Inside the Rabbit Hole

Keny, Louis, Tom Season 3 Episode 65

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Ever found yourself three hours deep into an internet rabbit hole at 2 AM? You're not alone. 

In this mind-bending episode, we plunge headfirst into the strange, creepy, and conspiracy-driven corners of the internet that keep us up at night. We break down what exactly constitutes a "rabbit hole" – those captivating subjects that pull us in and don't let go until we've explored their darkest depths.

From the YouTube channel that supposedly watches its viewers through their screens to mirrors with reflections that move independently when you're not looking, we explore the digital-age urban legends that blur the line between fiction and reality. We dissect stories of mysterious elevator floors that shouldn't exist, maintenance hatches under beds that lead to disturbing discoveries, and why these tales captivate our collective imagination.

The conversation takes an unexpected turn as we contemplate what space travel at light speed might actually look like – complete with theories about time dilation and the visual experience of outrunning light itself. This spontaneous shift perfectly demonstrates the very nature of rabbit holes: one fascinating topic leads to another until you find yourself in territory you never expected to explore.

What makes these internet mysteries so compelling? Is it the grain of truth buried within the fiction, or our natural human curiosity about the unknown? Either way, we're along for the ride, and we're bringing you with us.

Listen now, and prepare to question reality – just maybe not right before bedtime. And if you've fallen down any fascinating rabbit holes lately, we want to hear about them! Share your experiences and let's keep exploring the stranger side of the internet together.

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Speaker 1:

tonight's episode is something that we like to call a little bit spooky spooky.

Speaker 2:

What is that?

Speaker 1:

the rabbit hole, the rabbit hole. So what is the rabbit hole? So rabbit hole.

Speaker 2:

The rabbit hole. So what is the rabbit hole? So?

Speaker 1:

rabbit hole is basically when we get stuck in and you do a deep dive, get into whatever particular subject or conspiracy theories, right, and you just Haunt things, whatever it might be, it just gets in and you're just stuck on it.

Speaker 3:

This is almost like watching the ghost chases and all that stuff.

Speaker 4:

Right. When you read this Right, it kind of has that kind of vibe. Right, exactly, yes, exactly.

Speaker 3:

It does that as well, because it touches on everything.

Speaker 2:

Right, so is the rabbit hole a website. Oh yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3:

So it's a website A popular user created a website that became famous for the collection of strange, creepy, conspiracy-driven and downright bizarre content. It is the sort of a dark corner of the internet where you do find Right when you would find.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's like the. Yeah, that's like what I was talking about earlier, like before we started. Like you know, like a lot of that stuff, I think a lot of some people like it's written intentionally to look real like, yeah, as a conspiracy theory. So when you read it it has that real element, kind of like blair witch project. Yeah, right, you know like yeah, what do they call those that genre horror.

Speaker 1:

I forget what it's called I don't know, but it scared the shit out of me like found film, found film, right, yes, footage right.

Speaker 2:

So it's. It's kind of got the found film footage. It's intentionally supposed to look real to make it more scary. But I think what some people might stumble upon and not realize, it like like you know what someone like goes to onion. You know the web, the fake news. Yes, yes and it's like jokes, but like some people will share it and they'll think it's real yes, they don't realize it's a parody, right, so this is like a horror parody, as where it's like intentionally, yeah, but this yeah. Like fake, like you know what.

Speaker 3:

I mean, but it's not all that. I mean, there is stuff, there's other stuff, yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

But like what you're saying, so like with the Blair Channel, when they have the you know talk about urban legends and stuff like that, they played it on like the History Channel and they did that the Blair Witch was real. So that then I thought that it was something not I want to say real, not like there was really some you know witch running around through the woods, but that it was a real urban legend. I didn't know that it was just the movie when I saw it. So here I am, fresh out of like you know, like city area and I'm watching it up in the country In the boonies. Bro, I heard everything. I was scared. I was yeah, I was like what's that? Who's that? The kids are sleeping with us, the kids are come here, kids. I was so it got me, it got me, it got me. But you know that's when, like you said, you fall into the rabbit hole Because they had like two or three different conspiracies, I was stuck on it and now I'm watching those haunted things rise, but it's got to remember.

Speaker 3:

in that case, it's got to remember some movies.

Speaker 1:

That happened to me with Evil Death. Oh, okay, yeah, that movie totally blew my mind.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, so there was different stories we were going to talk about.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, and I remember like.

Speaker 2:

One of them is what you say, the channel that watches back Right On YouTube. So how does that work? Let's listen to what it is. Yeah, I don't know that's like. So I don't know if this is similar, but there was a scam going on for a while I just wanted to talk about real funny. It's kind of there was a scam going on for a while where they would send like emails to you, Like it would be like because a lot of people watch adult content, right, Right, it's just like it's just the chances of that.

Speaker 3:

Not everybody.

Speaker 2:

But, not everybody, but the chances are that they're going to find you, and it was like we watched you.

Speaker 3:

you know, you know pleasure yourself to pornography and we got it all on video. We put your camera. They do that sex and it'd be like, if you don't pay us so, and so we're gonna say they brought me.

Speaker 2:

Uh, they blackmailed me. Yeah, you know, like on your email list, so you can think of everybody you have in your email list yeah, so you like, you'd be like, oh my god, that's real yeah, you know, like just because you know what I mean yeah, so they got somebody.

Speaker 1:

I know they would they got him into that.

Speaker 2:

So people fought for it, you, you know that was a scam.

Speaker 1:

That was crazy. Well then, go ahead, you have one.

Speaker 3:

No, I want him to finish up what you were saying about the. Youtube, what they mentioned about YouTube on this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so this was supposed to be like a while you're watching, like this is like another story, like watched back, that's insane through your camera, yeah, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

See, yeah, now that's what. That's the crazy part, because they had the part where they had the one guy. I never saw it no, what we're saying I never saw that that video?

Speaker 2:

no, but like there is kind of some truth in that when you think about it, about what that you're being watched back. When you use social media, you're not being watched per se as someone's watching the video of you but something is responding back how long you're watching right like they actually have it by the millisecond, how long you looked at a certain post and then that algorithm like dishes out similar right, right.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's the whole thing like something, just the fact that you stopped and watched it it goes.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, he likes that. And you know what? It's funny you said that, bro, because I look at sneakers. So when I go on to my internet search, when I open it up again later, it's giving me the latest story on the particular sneakers I was looking at. And I was like, ooh, so now when I open them up, that's what I was starting to show you. When we got here. I'm like like, oh, these are sneakers I was trying to get. And then, uh, we started doing something else. So we all we fell off flying up my knees. But yeah, dude, that's, that is that.

Speaker 2:

But now so that was like rhythm, so this is like, but this is like a you know a guy. So the story, though, on this, though, is like the guy finds a random youtube channel just five videos each are all static, right, but oh, this is different. Oh, this is different. Okay, I didn't even read that's messed up, man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's funny as hell.

Speaker 2:

But I finished reading it, though. So it says a guy finds a random youtube channel just five videos. Each one is just static, but if you really focus you start to see something in the background, like something watching you. One night it leaves a comment. A few hours later, the channel uploads a sixth video the one a video of his bedroom. Oh man, that's your bed. So you're watching the video, and then, all of a sudden, the uploader uploads a video of you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you see, but now that reminds me of Creepshow that was like Creepshow had an episode or something like that. Yeah, that's bad shit man, yeah, dude see, but again.

Speaker 3:

that's that horror stuff. That's the stuff that people get off on man. Yeah, man, they get off on that crap.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I'm good, I don't need to see none of it.

Speaker 3:

Well, what about this guy who said he claimed, the guy who claimed that he saw his reflection blink out of sync one night and from that moment on he swore his reflection would watch him when he wasn't looking directly at it? Eventually, he covered all, all the mirrors in the house and one day, the five, the post he finally put up, he said it got out. Yeah, that was the only thing he wrote, right, you see. So what do you mean it? Right, god.

Speaker 2:

Imagine brushing your teeth and seeing your reflection. Right, it's just watching you and copying so to say, yeah, hard pass, right, that's what I was going to say. Oh, yeah, so I'm like yo turn that mirror around.

Speaker 4:

Listen, I know what my hair is. I'm not just going to do it like that myself.

Speaker 1:

I'm not playing with that shit. Dude, are you kidding me? But see, now I'm going to tell you a funny. When I go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, right, and it's dark, I won't turn the light on, you know, because it's dark. I don't feel like this, I don't turn the light on and I go right into the bathroom. But I don't look in the mirror because I'm afraid that I'm going to see that crazy reflection in the mirror. So with that, that's the rabbit hole, bro.

Speaker 3:

Because then that's that you believe in something. You have a there's something that you feel that might actually be bad if you did.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, because think about when you used to do Candyman. Make people look, you know, in the mirror like the movie Candyman.

Speaker 3:

Candyman no, don't do it oh no, I Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Wow, yeah, all right, I'm just saying you know, what.

Speaker 2:

I just realized that Right, beetlejuice and Candyman operate on the same rule, which is what you have to say the name three times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know what See, you know what See, you know what See. Just to let you in my world a little bit, I use ChadGBT to write alternate stories.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Just for fun.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Because you know, for entertainment, instead of like reading a story, why not make it interactive and like help write a story, right? So I'm going to yeah.

Speaker 1:

Candyman and Bulls, but there's Bloody Mary too, alright let's see what happens.

Speaker 3:

Was it?

Speaker 1:

Bloody Mary Was the other one. Oh, bloody Mary.

Speaker 2:

Oh, all three of them. All three of them, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you gotta do that, dude. I'm telling you, man, it's. But it's just crazy how our mind works.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying and how we just but it's a coincidence Not really that all three of those movies Do the same thing what you said three times.

Speaker 1:

You had to say their name three times in a row well, how deep do you want to get into the rabbit hole? Well, that's the whole thing. You're going in the direction of it. You're like why do you want to?

Speaker 3:

go three times? And why is it that three movies did the same thing, but they just use different names, right? Right right, so you ready, you ready is that that?

Speaker 1:

yes?

Speaker 4:

yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1:

The eyes too, bro, that was good. Yeah, so that then. So, because it's the numbers, so that the numbers, I think I remember I'm relying if I told you 100, but like the three, is that trinity? Okay, so that then you know, the number three is like the number, it's the abc, the base number, yeah, like for you to turn around and for you to find the meaning of life, and the third eye, like it's supposed to be. Like, three is the number. No, I get it, you know.

Speaker 3:

So then that's probably why you say it three times. That's what I'm saying to you. I was saying I could think of all the things that could come up and who would say this, or? Say that in regards to it, because you know that's well see three times three different films did the same exact thing Right Different story, same idea Still a horror event One was a comedy at the same time. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, except for the other two.

Speaker 1:

The other two were horror Because.

Speaker 3:

Freddy wasn't like that.

Speaker 1:

Freddy was a whole song and a thing, but no, that's craziness.

Speaker 3:

Buckle your shoe.

Speaker 2:

Three, four. This is just me doing, you know my. But like you know, it'd be cool if like characters can jump, jump, jump to different cinematic universes. They do that. Can you imagine if Beetlejuice jumped to the Candyman one and now he's like a like, a like a villain, yeah, like a crazy villain, a real villain, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like a scary Beetlejuice. Oh, look at what they did with Jason and Freddy. Did you see when?

Speaker 2:

they the Jason versus Freddy, Like instead of like. You know how it was Unfortunately. Yes, I did see it, unfortunately, but like the scary scene in Beetlejuice when the banister turns into the rail Right. Imagine that in a real horror movie. Yes, like turns into it.

Speaker 1:

And like kills her. Yeah, bro, that would be insane, but they did that with. Winnie the Slayer Right.

Speaker 3:

Popeye the Slayer yeah.

Speaker 1:

That was you know. So they did a couple of those things, man Yep, like there was another story.

Speaker 3:

People do the cross office. They do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah. Another story was an office worker sees the elevator stop at the fourth. There's a hallway, dim and overgrown, like it's been there for decades. Smells like something died. They step in, take a few pictures and then disappear. So it's one of those things. It's like the 13th floor.

Speaker 3:

If I'm not mistaken, the only thing they found was a phone that was left behind on that one. There you go. Imagine that that was the only thing they found I was talking about that one.

Speaker 1:

See, dude, that gives me the chills thinking about that, bro. Yeah, no, I'm good. Yeah, but that's the same thing with the 13th floor.

Speaker 3:

Did you ever see creepy where the guy's pacing back and forth, pacing back and forth and an elevator door opens up, person gets out and that person runs in real quick and leaves that person in their place. Now they finally get out because they've been up there that whole time waiting for somebody to come up so they can get on the elevator and get out of there, because they've been stuck in like purgatory no way, I haven't seen that, yeah and that person now has to deal with it and figure out the same thing for themselves.

Speaker 1:

Like it gets passed on. Yeah, nah, I'm good, that's where they took the, the.

Speaker 2:

Sorry. I'm thinking again. I wonder if it's on here. Well, if that's where they got the idea for the train station.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, right, right, because that's right. Because when Neo was trying to get back the what was the name? The family was there. The family was there. And because he was looking for the key maker Right, the key maker.

Speaker 2:

He was stuck, he was in the train station, he was in limbo yeah. Because somehow he stopped the machines in the real world, yeah, and then he went into a coma and then he woke up in the train station. Right, yeah, up in the train station.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, yeah. And now he's like in limbo. He can't figure out how to get out. He couldn't get out of there. Whatever, he couldn't get out of there.

Speaker 1:

He was like stuck like he was in purgatory almost Right. And then that's when Morpheus and Trinity and them came and they find him because they had gone to the engineer. And then they go, but yeah. Was that one later though? No, that was like number three, right? So?

Speaker 3:

yeah, like, yeah, the end of the first. Those were good movies. I have to sit down and watch them again. I like them.

Speaker 1:

that was a good, but then you and that's exactly what you guys just said that's the perfect example of that rabbit hole, bro. You know all the things that you can, let all inhibitions go as far as, like being able to fly or to do those crazy jumps or whatever. Bro, you know what I mean. Like that would be insane, you know? Would we be able? Is that really what the third eye is? Like people who do that meditation.

Speaker 3:

that's the third eye, if you can tap into your third eye.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

You can do anything, pretty much You're hacking the matrix. Right, do anything. Pretty much you're hacking the matrix. Right exactly you're gonna be tapped you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because that's you know. That's a funny thing too about the matrix is they were all hackers like trinity was after neo was yes. Yes, this was a hacker, and when he yes but like so does that mean like that you have to like be a hacker, understand to like how to hack the matrix. When you do, yeah, go in the real world right, right, right, yeah, yeah, that's the.

Speaker 1:

That's the only reason why I'm mad. I'm like I'm not a coder or I'm not a hacker like that just to. I want to do for morpheus and neo and trinity and you know dozer and stuff, like I would love to be able to go do it we should do I, we should do an episode on like the whole theory of, like the matrix.

Speaker 1:

I'm down with that you know what I mean. Stay tuned, yes, stay tuned. That's good, that's coming, that's coming, that's coming. It'll be more for us. But now, what's this one? Now I bug out because, see, this is the creepy shit that I don't even know if I would even really open it. Which one? The the kid with no, that is off the hook. In the middle of the night a woman hears a knock. Two kids are outside asking to use the phone. She says no, but glances again and notices they have no eyelids, just wide, unblinking wet eyes. They don't leave, they stand outside until sunrise and every night for the next week they come back.

Speaker 2:

Why are creepy kids always the worst part of this story?

Speaker 1:

Because kids are fucking creepy, bro they are bro, they can be really creepy. Yeah, look, he gave me the chills again.

Speaker 3:

It's because people make them creepy bro. That's why.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, dude that's that's. Oh God, what about the maintenance hatch? What was?

Speaker 3:

the maintenance hatch. No, I didn't read. The maintenance hatch, Go ahead. A guy moved into a place and noticed a metal latch under the bed frame. When he opened it, it led to a small crawlspace with a strange childlike drawings on the wall and a voice recording that said only I never left. He posted photos, then deleted the account. What?

Speaker 1:

He was like yeah, look, that's straight up, that's straight up, that's sick.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy. I'm good, I'm good, yeah, I'm good. I'm good, yeah, I'm good Listen, if there's a latch under my bed when I move into something, I'm not laying there, no bro.

Speaker 1:

I'm not laying there, I'm not opening the fucking latch. No, why would I open it?

Speaker 3:

Why would they do that? Because people are oblivious to shit sometimes and they just go. What could it be so they go in See.

Speaker 1:

So now but is there a limit to the curiosity?

Speaker 3:

for you. Well, I think it's your response. You're taking on the responsibility to do that. You're going full out. See, I'm going in there, I'm going to check it out. It's on you, man? Yeah, no, how?

Speaker 1:

about for you.

Speaker 3:

Would there be a? Limit to your curiosity in a case like that. I don't think I would all in there with me with guns blazing Well.

Speaker 1:

I mean so like here. Let's just say like, right now we have here on our background and we know that if we turn around and we touch, you know this part of this building that is going to open up this door. We just happened to find it. I'm like, right now I'm messing up, I'm like and I touched it.

Speaker 3:

Now it opens up Like Indiana Jones kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, like you hear, like right yeah, okay, foundation is like it's just moving and whatnot finish? Your point. The light goes on and down the hallway. Are you walking in there? No, but see so. Would you walk in there?

Speaker 2:

no, I have ADHD. I'd probably go right, so now here's my thing.

Speaker 1:

Hey, what's this right? So for me, check it out.

Speaker 3:

This is cool. I need to see works please don't go in there.

Speaker 1:

I would walk in if it's concrete, it's gonna be fucking epic.

Speaker 1:

Say that again. If it's a concrete like hallway, you know floor wall, because we're underground right now, we're in the basement. So now, if it looked like it was concrete, I would walk. I would do it, I would go with you and I tell you just keep the phone on in case we're going to need or get a rope while we walk down because it's concrete, I would grab you first give you a hug and say, bro, I love you, and then he would close the door on us, just want you to know it was good times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I would do it.

Speaker 3:

So it depends.

Speaker 1:

It would all depend If it's concrete that it looks like it's a hallway. That it was man-built that it looks like it's man-made.

Speaker 2:

I would go and do it. And you know what, if it looks ancient, that means it's not going nowhere. It survived.

Speaker 1:

Well, yes, it survived.

Speaker 3:

But I'm saying I'm, those were really cool to go to and look at and see how they were built and everything. You couldn't climb on them or anything like that, but it was just to see that stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I get it and that's awesome, but time out so you wouldn't walk down the hallway if your this here, I don't necessarily know they're good people, so I think I will go with evil. But you went on a ghost walk, bro, on a ghost hunt. It's different, bro. It's ghosts. These are real people who build a tunnel to go to a certain place. Okay, fair enough, all right, all right, they have a job that they need to complete. Obviously they're focused in complete, obviously they're they're focused in. You know what I mean? Huh, okay, fair enough, I'll give you that. So I don't know if it's good or bad. So I'm like you know what? All right, yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 1:

But good, go home see. Yeah, I would walk down to see what it is because, like I said, I want to know now because it's man-made, so I want to know how far this thing goes down. But it meant if I had to save somebody, maybe I would. Yeah. Well, then you know what you're gonna have to come in to some saving me in town, cause you know no, I'm gonna tell you right to your face.

Speaker 3:

Listen, bro, you did this shit to yourself, so listen. Notice, now I'm not coming in. You motherfuckers are done. Alright, I love you, but that's it. That would be cool that's it, that relationship's over hit the button and close the that's great, or what about if it was like something wacky, like like what movie was that being?

Speaker 1:

John Malkovich with the half floor oh dude, was that freaking great, something like that that's been stopped in your head.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like, what happens if like?

Speaker 2:

you just like, found like this, hidden like floor in between your house and it was just like another version, like it was other rooms that like hadn't been occupied yet, but they were half floors yeah would you go in there, creepy?

Speaker 1:

half floors are creepy and you're in john malkovich's head bro half floors are creepy half floors well, like we said before, I started to say before with the seven one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like maybe in between your second, your first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a half, there's a half floor, bro dude, I'm just saying, if Now the Munsters, wasn't it the Munsters, that their stairs opened up and that's where they had the pet dragon or whatever.

Speaker 3:

Was it a thing?

Speaker 1:

No, it wasn't a thing. Thing was the other thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was the dragon. I can't remember the dragon, but it was their pet.

Speaker 1:

They were throwing like brontosaurus.

Speaker 3:

Now we got to look it up because I should know this. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Tom's looking it up now. What was the name of the pet dragon in the Munsters? Uh-oh.

Speaker 1:

Uh-oh, he hears it in his ear Spot, spot. That's right, spot. Well, there you go. But that would be like would that be considered a half floor? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm with you, but the stairs opened all the way up. Well, yeah, and he came out and threw out a flame, but they still had a basement they still had a basement, they had that floor that was in the stairs, and then they had it definitely went somewhere else, because that dragon didn't even roll from yeah exactamundo you know, and like you said, the John Malkovich, how many the fourth floor that we stood they talk about

Speaker 2:

that in the series. So that's what I'm saying, like what happens if, like you found, but it wasn't scary, like scary would be.

Speaker 3:

I would have to get somebody to go with me. I think going by yourself would be stupid.

Speaker 2:

I think, oh, definitely, we're like no, it wasn't unsafe but yeah, this is fun this is kind of strange.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, I'm going to go in there and check this shit out and the 13th floor. So buildings this guy was right, that accent, you like that, right. So you have buildings that they have 100 floors but they don't open up the 13th floor. Right, it's 12, 14, 15, 16.

Speaker 3:

And he gets off on the 14th the story, right? No, the fourth floor is the story. Oh, the fourth floor. I should say Right, in that case, it's the same thing. Right, they get off. No, no, no Things are growing.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm good, it don't look like it's nice in here. No, I'm good, I'm not doing that shit.

Speaker 3:

Putting it down.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, don't go down. Can I crawl underneath? Can I go under? Yeah?

Speaker 3:

I'm getting out of that bitch. Oh yeah, meter triangle, because people go in they see something you know like. The theory is that they see like little stones or whatever, I don't know. They've been finding some stuff, Planes that were gone missing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, they found a couple, because they're still missing the one that the Air Force guys, the fighter jets, you know what they have.

Speaker 2:

They do have one.

Speaker 3:

They say it's some kind of magnetic Plausible theory, magnetic With, they say. It's some kind of magnetic Plausible theory.

Speaker 2:

Magnetic With the ships. I don't know about the airplanes.

Speaker 1:

The planes right.

Speaker 2:

The ships that sink, that just disappear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, go ahead. What did you hear? What did you?

Speaker 2:

hear.

Speaker 3:

They say they're like tidal waves.

Speaker 2:

They say no, they say in that spot of the. Caribbean or wherever. Well, it once Yep. And what happens is it sinks the ship because there's no buoyancy, exactly.

Speaker 4:

It's all gas coming through.

Speaker 2:

It's like Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

Yep, Wow Like okay, that's really freaking crazy.

Speaker 2:

Let me just explain this to you If your pool, if you had a pool right and it was filled with seltzer water, it filled with like seltzer water, you'd probably drown. Yeah yeah, it's harder to stay up because-.

Speaker 1:

Or the air bubbles. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's one of the things that he said. Said then now the problem is that when it falls down-.

Speaker 2:

So these things will come up and a ship will just It'll swallow a ship, yep A couple seconds, yep, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And then the thing is that it goes down, and then, centuries later, they find the damn thing Well no, because they don't find it where it went down.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it moved somewhere else, because it gets caught in the currents. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the air pocket, the air bubbles come up. Yeah, it goes down. So let's just say it goes down 50 feet, and then the current takes it, and the current takes it Right, or it's going in, that it's just moving. Yep, that's the same thing that happened with the Titanic. When the Titanic sunk, or started to sink, it broke. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So when it broke, the bigger part or the smaller part?

Speaker 1:

Went further off Because it lost buoyancy, because it lost the buoyancy because of how it went down, but it got caught in that current or vice versa, and it went down, so they know that it fell here, but where they found it was like three or five miles, whatever it was further down.

Speaker 2:

Remember when you were kids, or it broke off before the other one sank, or something like that yeah some shit like that. Yeah, my friends and I used to hang out.

Speaker 3:

We would say stupid shit like yo. If an alien landed right here, man, I'd get on this shit. I was 14 years old. We would say stupid shit like that.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, remember when you were saying that yeah, yeah, yeah, because we didn't give a fuck Right, we didn't know.

Speaker 3:

Then Like oh yeah, no, no, we're going out Right right, yo bring the weed with us, bro, like all right bro. Yeah yeah, but would you get on Well? Back then I said I would. I don't know if I would rather. It depends on the circumstances. Okay, let's just put it that way. All right, how about you?

Speaker 2:

What do you think I the same circumstance Now I wouldn't yeah when I was younger and, like you know, I didn't have much.

Speaker 3:

You didn't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get on that bitch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got to lose. Okay, like if they're coming down, they haven't tried to kill me yet.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

They're probably not going to hurt me, right? But like what's if they do?

Speaker 4:

So I don't want to fuck around and find out.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, but when you're younger, you're like oh, I can fuck around and find out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I can find out, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I can fuck around and find out.

Speaker 1:

But now for me now. So as a kid I would have been like I want to at least talk to them. You know, I want to be able to speak like what are you guys doing? Like you know, welcome, like what's up, and then now I would still want to talk to them. I don't know if I would ever never thought about getting in the spaceship. I mean you know we made the jokes you know after watching the three o'clock movie the kung fu flick.

Speaker 3:

You know, show me pictures of what it looks like inside yeah, show me on your phone.

Speaker 1:

I just want to see it. So scroll through the pictures. Yeah, no, no, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I would get on now, but that would be kind of groovy. I would want to talk to them, though like I wouldn't run from the aliens you know I would, that's for sure, man.

Speaker 3:

It'd blow your freaking mind, I know that for sure. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that should blow my mind. Yep, what was this one man Number station in the Wi-Fi? Someone scanned the local Wi-Fi signals in a rural area and found one with no name, just numbers. When they connected, it played static and creepy voices through their laptop speakers, even though the volume was muted. The voices kept repeating their names and birth date. Even though the volume was muted, the voices kept repeating their names and birth date they didn't delete it, oh shit, which they never typed in.

Speaker 2:

Oh, motherfucker, you see, see, See, like your stalker is also a hacker. Yeah yeah, yeah. You need to delete whatever and wipe that thing out do something Right, but see but now Somebody needs to write a movie like that. A stalker who's a hacker, ooh we have to sell this.

Speaker 3:

I've done stories like that before, though not to shut down your idea or anything like that super hacker who can like hack into, like listen, if it happened if we were gonna have that happen, it would have happened already. You know what I mean. Like I wish it could happen. I wish there was somebody you know that could do that. If someone was doing it for good, of course, yeah, well, yeah would that be called like a catfish.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. He knows shit so well that he's not gonna get caught oh, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean well, like activists do that.

Speaker 2:

You know how about boy right here do it yeah, this guy, yeah, yeah a russian friend yep but I mean, what movie is he from?

Speaker 1:

what is he from? No toys for you. In the podcast it was I love it.

Speaker 3:

It was the oh, come on, it was the one with the rock, it was the Hawaiian movie.

Speaker 2:

It was oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I forget the name.

Speaker 3:

I can't remember.

Speaker 2:

My granddaughter loves that movie so my grandson, he just did the sequel Moana.

Speaker 3:

He just did the sequel. Thank you, moana, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. I should know that. Yeah, see, and Luke from the rabbit hole. I'm terrible, I'm a terrible man, and now he's stuck on that shit. That's right, man, fuck you, yeah no, but see.

Speaker 1:

So now isn't that basically what is the REM pods? When you're doing the ghost hunts, you have sound and it's. It's going through different channels and you're supposed to get the voices of the ghosts or the spirits, right. So same idea. You know you're getting the voices of the spirits.

Speaker 3:

You're getting them back Now. You got things, so somebody's just tapped into your thing now yeah. You're just playing creepy shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah See.

Speaker 3:

Because if it is a real deal, you better get rid of that damn thing quick. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Like from some place and it doesn't feel right. Well, if it doesn't feel right, go with that feeling, get rid of it immediately.

Speaker 1:

Right, but see, that's my shit though, too. Don't do so like right now we're doing this podcast, people are listening and watching it, I hope. So now don't go and like do this shit if you really don't want to know, right involved in it.

Speaker 3:

But it's interesting though, because when you find out all about these crazy stories and these, these, these things that people went through, it's interesting. It really is. You know, some of the videos they're on Instagram we follow them, by the way, Right, Okay, and that stuff that in video, that they have just in video and when you see, is super creepy. I saw this one video where this man was putting his I believe it was his mother to bed. She laid down, you know. He walked out of the room, she got up, sat around, sat on the bed and just sat there. What?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly that was my exactly my response when I saw that Then she got up and walked past the camera in the other direction. No dude. Then the next he comes in he looks, checks something. She's not there. He doesn't even like whatever. Like it's, I'm like okay. Next thing, you know, I see this person crawling on the floor from the other side. Like crawling on the floor like a spider, almost to the camera.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was like yo I'm done yeah. No, bro, listen yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Not for me. I'm good, I'm all right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no See. So now dig it. Why we love no, I'm fucked up, I'm bugging so like why we love the weird. So dive into is a dive into why we're drawn to this type of content. Now, curiosity, I believe, is what killed the cat. You know what I mean. Curiosity, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Curiosity killed the cat, and I think it's just human for you to expand your mind and say what if this was possible?

Speaker 2:

this could happen oh, yeah, yeah, yeah when they finally break the speed of sound, right.

Speaker 3:

I mean speed of light right. Of course you can't break the speed of light. They said that about the speed of sound and they broke the speed of sound so eventually they will break the speed of sound, but it's not going to be.

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's going to be where they actually goes faster, but I think it's more like a doorway versus traveling. In other words, you're able to just open a place and go to another. Go to a place. That's how I think aliens get hit. Honestly, that's the way I think. I don't think they're traveling. If they can travel through space, then they probably do If we can travel, but if they want to go through a far place. They could probably just go like bang right into a place. Right right.

Speaker 1:

When the space-time comes in, Right boom.

Speaker 2:

Just fold it together and you're there. Go ahead, but I think we will probably get to light speed at some point. Yeah, but I just wonder what that's going to be like, because we didn't. The sonic boom do we predict? Do we know about the sonic boom?

Speaker 3:

We're working on it. You know what I'm saying when a sonic boom happens?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when you break the speed, boom, boom. So something's going to happen when you get to light speed, when you break the speed of light, right. Because something's going to happen is what is it going to look like? You'll be at the top speed.

Speaker 3:

You're not going to You'll be at the top speed. What's?

Speaker 2:

vision going to look like Right, right, everything is going to.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you right now. We already know this you're going to be younger, so I know they tried predicting it in like. You would be younger Star Wars. The people behind you Getting older Are older.

Speaker 2:

And you're to be faster than the speed of light, or is it just going to go black? It's going to be like I mean you're not going to go Right right?

Speaker 3:

no, because you're moving at the speed of light, are we?

Speaker 1:

actually having this conversation.

Speaker 3:

What is it going to look like Really? So that then?

Speaker 1:

now, but it's going to no. Well, I mean, what the fuck was that mate?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm still trying to figure out how in my head what it's going to look like, because you're moving faster than light. I would think that you would come.

Speaker 3:

I think, yes, you might be right, we would actually see the beams of light. You would actually be in the same speed as light. So you wouldn't really. You would be side by side you would be side by side.

Speaker 1:

You would be side by side of the light or behind you. I don't think it would be streaks, I think it would be like the spots.

Speaker 3:

You won't see anything anymore.

Speaker 1:

It would be on the side of you. Well, no, because you're going. We just fell into the fucking rabbit hole.

Speaker 3:

guys, I'm saying if you catch up to the speed of light. If you catch up to the speed of light.

Speaker 2:

you're catching up to light, If you catch up to it.

Speaker 3:

you're, even You're going to see just what's next to you.

Speaker 2:

I just realized something that only applies to headlights You're projecting your own light so you won't be able to see it. But when you're traveling in space and the sun is behind you, the sun is your light. So if you're traveling at light speed away from the sun, you're not going to not see light, because the light already exists Right From it's. Of course, it's not like it just turned on and you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

But the cool part will be you will catch up to it.

Speaker 2:

No, no. If someone, maybe like five seconds before you go to light speed, turns on a light, you can actually maybe see the past, the light that would be cool, moving forward or moving closer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that would be fucking cool, that would be groovy. But see, I'm gonna say what I think. You guys, are waxed.

Speaker 1:

Okay, no, but see, now here's where it's different. When we we look out into space, we see stars. So we see other light. Yeah, so now we're moving at light speed. Right, that light is there, we're going towards it. So then we're going to see the spots of the other stars in the universe, because it's like crisscrossing. Yeah, you follow what I'm saying. Okay, so then we might see the beam of light, if you will, and we'll see the crisscross, if it's even a beam, because it's a star. So it's not just a beam like out of your flashlight, it's a big, planetary size beam of light. That's how I'm looking at it, which would then why everything would look plaid Right. Yeah, it's ludicrous speed, ludicrous speed, ludicrous speed. You know what I mean. I mean not for nothing to be able to.

Speaker 2:

We're going to plaid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hold on.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead what you got, Luke. What would space look like if I was traveling at the speed of light?

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's going would be crazy. I'm down to find out, though I like driving fast. Just saying Traveling at the speed of light would be mind-bending. From your perspective, space would appear to contract along the direction you're traveling and distances would shrink to almost nothing. Light from stars ahead of you would blue shift and become intensely bright, while the view behind you would red shift and fade away. It would be like seeing the universe compressed into a bright, narrow tunnel right in front of you.

Speaker 2:

pretty wild to imagine, huh that would be crazy it would be like the tunnel, you know how like, yeah, like when they're going and it's like right?

Speaker 1:

yep see, so it would probably look like, but then now those guys take off.

Speaker 3:

They're in their own zone.

Speaker 2:

I love how that's actually based in, like actual scientific theory.

Speaker 1:

I love that. What if a black hole isn't as detrimental to our health?

Speaker 3:

as They'll find them in different universes and stuff. They already find them.

Speaker 1:

So what if it's that, that it's actually a wormhole and it just sucks you in? That would be cool, like because that's how you get it to do you'll break up, but that's the assumption what if it really doesn't?

Speaker 2:

what if it's not pressurized? Right, they're just basing that off of all these calculations how fast that thing is moving.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's the whole thing though. So if it's moving that fast, it's already shooting things.

Speaker 3:

It's sucking in like a vacuum.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing that I think someone pointed out before. You know like when you hear the term asteroid field, right away we think to Hollywood yes, An asteroid field.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

They're like planets apart, right.

Speaker 3:

They're not like 10 or 20 feet next to each other, they're like as far as we are to the like, further than the moon.

Speaker 2:

Right, so like when asteroids actually collide, it's like a major event, because it never happens.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like the ones around Saturn, but it's not like this.

Speaker 2:

So what's if it's the same thing Like? As all these things are getting sucked into the black hole. The chances of them actually colliding are as bad as we think they are right it's not.

Speaker 1:

So you just kind of like go through it like yeah, without actually getting crushed right, or you hit it in the right spot where you're just being sucked in the middle, and there are black holes that are so big that it'll take you so many years to get across.

Speaker 3:

That's how big it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, it's enormous, yeah, but there's time dilation. What's if there's time dilation and it's not there, you go. Well, that's that light speed too.

Speaker 3:

That's the right, that's the fucked up part, like imagine what it would look like if you were actually able to travel. Almost ask that question. Yeah, yeah, see, this is they won't know.

Speaker 2:

They won't know time dilation thing is fucked up like, like, at Like what feels like 10 minutes for you could be one minute Right, actually, but it really is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, and this is sorry.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead, bro. What would space look like if I was traveling faster than the speed of light?

Speaker 4:

Traveling faster than the speed of light is something that current physics says isn't possible for anything with mass. The speed of light is something that current physics says isn't possible for anything with mass, but if we imagine it hypothetically, the concept of space and time would get really weird. Distances would become imaginary in a mathematical sense, and the causal structure of the universe would break down. You'd essentially be outrunning light itself, so the universe in front of you might appear pitch black, since no new light would reach you Behind.

Speaker 2:

That's all right, we're going to make the other best. You know what I do? I hit the mute button whenever. I just figured it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then you got to remember to Bye.

Speaker 1:

But see, but then look at that. We just fell into the craziest rabbit hole. We fell into the space rabbit hole.

Speaker 3:

We just had a rabbit and folks, we just had a rabbit. We had our own time. We got into a topic and we just were like what I'm still thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

I'm stuck now, yeah, because now I'm thinking like I'm thinking that whole time dilation thing, which is where, like you are, I, I actually explain it backwards where like say, you're going, what feels like a minute for you has passed in real life, like 10 minutes, right, okay. Like like they kind of explained that in the movie what's that movie with what's his name?

Speaker 1:

All right, all right, what movie was that? Yeah, he went to go find. Yeah, I forgot the name of it. I know you're talking about.

Speaker 3:

He was still young when he came back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was talking to them in video and he saw his daughter.

Speaker 3:

She was an old lady. She was in like a hospital or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know why the planets had time dilation. I don't know if they explained that because they weren't moving like light.

Speaker 3:

There was one planet right that you age like super fast. Yeah, they were there for like an hour.

Speaker 2:

They were there for like 15 minutes Right and like 20 years passed by Right. So 15 years passed? Yeah, 15 years past. Yeah, ugh, we need to leave.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like every minute was like a year or some shit. Yeah, some shit like that, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3:

So it's not like you know. I think what's going to happen is that you're going to be able to be able to open up certain areas, be able to bench face in a way where they're able to yeah, they are right, like we were saying point a to point b, right, you know, and just put it together, they'll be able to travel that way with.

Speaker 2:

It won't be in our lifetime, that's for sure I think we have a lot of theories of what space is like from our point of view, our of the universe what we can see right, but like I think, if we actually were to explore it, I think things would test our view of reality, like that time dilation thing. Yeah, I think there's things that we'd be like. That doesn't make any sense. What's going on here? Up is, down, down is up.

Speaker 4:

Left is right, blue is black, black is red, red is green.

Speaker 2:

Things just like that. Don't make any sense. Because we think it's's gonna be a certain way, because we look at it from our point of the universe when we actually get there.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it's not what we right, yeah, cause we're that kinda narrow, you know. That's why I think the time thing is what's gonna?

Speaker 3:

they're gonna be able to cut that out where they'll were able to figure it out that you could just go, yeah, and travel. Maybe you could do that. I don't know, maybe they won't.

Speaker 1:

Right, like I said, see, if they would just make me a cyborg now, right, I'd be up to just Right. I'm just saying bro.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying, if you wait till then, you'll be a better cyborg.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm talking about. You know what I I think it's all cool and, like I said, now everybody just witnessed us go down the space-time continuum rabbit hole. We got one more.

Speaker 3:

One more. I spent 12 years in a room that doesn't exist. Huh, a long post from someone who woke up in a white, windowless room and no doors, a sense of time. They claimed their food appeared and they just had no memory of I'm sorry of how they got there and they just had no memory of I'm sorry of how they got there, eventually accepted, only to realize they didn't, they hadn't aged and no time had passed. In the real world.

Speaker 2:

People thought it was part of a larger experiment, or time loop, so like you're stuck in this thing for like almost ever, and then all of a sudden, 12 years. He said 12 years.

Speaker 3:

He said 12 years, like no time has passed.

Speaker 2:

But he totally spent 12 years in a box, wow, and then all of a sudden, like no time, like right now, like I just came back, is that?

Speaker 1:

what a coma is.

Speaker 2:

No, but I'm saying like just sitting here right now, all of a sudden, and now all of a sudden you come back. Yeah, Now, all of a sudden you come back. Yeah, oh yeah, like a coma, right?

Speaker 1:

So in your head, in your mind, you're mental, you're asleep. Well, people see you asleep. You're in a coma, your mind is knocked out. So then what happens? Now you see yourself in a room. I don't know. That might be it. Yeah, that might be it.

Speaker 3:

I might be outside.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, food's here. Oh, that's right yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it just happens to be that time. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1:

So with that, guys, we're going to go chill down. Yes, so thank everybody for listening, watching and bugging out, and you can laugh at us going down the rabbit hole of space.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I hope this gives everybody thought just to sit back.

Speaker 3:

I'll be back.

Speaker 1:

Come up with some new stuff. Yeah, come up with some new ideas, some new other things for that, you know, rabbit hole ideas that you, yeah, whatever may have, yeah, that'd be fun. So you know, listen like, follow all the other good stuff. So love, peace and hair grease, live long and prosper and go be hollow.

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