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Heavy Metal Royalty: The Final Bow

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The unexpected passing of Ozzy Osbourne sent shockwaves through the rock and metal community, leaving fans worldwide to process the loss of the legendary Prince of Darkness. For those fortunate enough to witness his final performance in Birmingham just weeks before his passing, that experience now carries profound significance.

Jenny, a dedicated Ozzy fan who traveled across the pond for the historic show, takes us inside what became Ozzy's final bow. What unfolded wasn't merely a concert but a city-wide celebration as Birmingham embraced its native son with open arms. From the Black Sabbath Bridge to museum exhibits and murals adorning city walls, the entire community transformed into a living tribute to metal's founding father.

The Birmingham show itself represented something extraordinary in music history. Headlining acts that typically command stadiums on their own—Metallica, Guns N' Roses, and more—appeared as supporting artists, each delivering reverential covers of Black Sabbath and Ozzy classics. As James Hetfield declared from stage, "There would be no Metallica without Black Sabbath," acknowledging the debt all metal musicians owe to Ozzy's pioneering work.

What many don't realize is that this farewell performance served as the highest-grossing charity fundraiser ever recorded, with every performer appearing without compensation. The event benefited three UK charities, including Parkinson's research, reflecting Ozzy's commitment to giving back even as he took his final bow. The innovative rotating stage design kept performances flowing seamlessly through the ten-hour celebration.

Beyond music, we explore how the Osbourne family revolutionized entertainment through their groundbreaking reality show and how Sharon's business acumen transformed heavy metal promotion through Ozzfest, providing crucial exposure for countless bands. For decades, Ozzy didn't just create music—he created community, connecting generations of fans through shared experiences.

As we celebrate the indelible mark Ozzy left on music history, we're reminded that legends never truly die. Whether you've followed him since the early Black Sabbath days or discovered him through later work, his influence remains immortal. What was your favorite Ozzy moment? Share your memories and join the global community honoring the irreplaceable Prince of Darkness.

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Speaker 1:

welcome to copman crawford and the jersey guy what's going on right?

Speaker 2:

so today we got a groovy guest is miss jenny, so she's back because she's the hard ozzy. So today's episode is on Ozzy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because you know, I was in my car when I got the news. Jenny and I was like the first thing I thought about was you. And your husband was like oh wow, I know, they know already.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a lot of people thought of us, I think, because my phone at least started blowing up. John didn't know right away. But yeah, that 2 to 2.30 time on Tuesday, yeah. It was a big time yeah man, it's insane, cannot believe it.

Speaker 2:

Like that one struck home. Man, like it really did that was yeah, felt that one.

Speaker 3:

It was a big one, yeah, especially with that last show just being done. Yeah, quite surprising too, I think, just about everybody.

Speaker 2:

Well, you were at the last show, so I mean you were officially at the last show you were there, which is awesome.

Speaker 1:

You got to see him on the one last time.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, maybe you could tell us like about that, like, how did that go, like, how was the show, you know? Like, how did everything?

Speaker 3:

Well, the show, you know like have it everything. Well, that the show was phenomenal, it really was. We hit the lottery with being able to get those tickets. It was any. Any of us who got those tickets worked for those tickets and anybody who didn't get tickets they still worked for the tickets. You know what I mean. So we really felt blessed just to be there, get tickets originally, but then to be there, the energy in that stadium, not even just the stadium, the whole city, the whole city of Birmingham was just embracing Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne where it all began, and you felt nothing but love everywhere you went and every artist that was on that stage gave their all and was there for one reason and it was to honor them. And you felt that.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was phenomenal and Sharon did her job. She put together quite the show because it's Sharon. It's Sharon who came up with this. It said this is how we're going to do it, and a lot of people don't know that this event was a fundraiser. Yeah, it was and it is the highest grossing fundraiser of all time.

Speaker 2:

Amazing I didn't know that man, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:

I did see that.

Speaker 3:

What was the?

Speaker 4:

fundraiser for.

Speaker 3:

It was for. There were three charities in England One is for Parkinson's, One is a children's hospital and I believe the third one is a hospice of some sort. I think it might even be a children's hospice, but I'm not really sure, oh wow. Yeah, yeah, cost us, but I'm not really sure. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah. So every single band, every single band that was on that card, was there on their own dollar, and some of those bands only played for 20 minutes wow, that is crazy man that is so freaking awesome.

Speaker 1:

How long was the show total?

Speaker 3:

yeah, the show started at one in the afternoon and it went until 11 o'clock at night.

Speaker 4:

Nice An hour show.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and here's the thing is that they had a rotating stage, so the in-between time was very limited to about 10 to 15 minutes.

Speaker 3:

It was the fastest turnover and everything went smoothly, so much so I think they were ahead of schedule by the time Ozzy went on. And so, yeah, so the first band went on, mastodon, which is freaking awesome. The drummer for Mastodon, he has a Randy Rhoades drum kit and it was up there and yeah, so they went on. And then the band Rival Sons was on next and, sure enough, when Mastod maximum was done, the stage just rotated and you know they just need a couple of minutes to tune things up and you know a lot of people started streaming on a two hour delay.

Speaker 3:

And what a lot of people didn't see in between what we got was were videos of other like artists and celebrities giving homage to Ozzy, especially and Cyndi Lauper, Billy Idol I know Billy Idol's guitarist is actually one of Ozzy's best friends and they couldn't be there because they were on tour. But yeah, and then they showed. I don't know anybody who had gone to OzFest in the past, but they used to show these funny videos before Ozzy came on and it's like putting him into movies and stuff. And yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and I'm sure any of those could be YouTube, but they were showing that kind of stuff in between. So it was, it was pretty pretty.

Speaker 4:

I'm very grateful to have been there and it's really when you leave that you really, really you know you're watching the videos and you're feeling the energy and you're just like you are, like I was there, yeah, and you were across the pond, it was yeah you know it was awesome to be there, yeah, experience, yeah, that type of life over there, I bet the vibe is different there too for a like like, like to see Ozzy in, like the UK, I'm sure the vibe has got there too for a cop Like to see Ozzy in. Like the UK, I'm sure the vibe has got to be a little like different, right, like it's like, because it's like a, or you think it's the same.

Speaker 3:

No, I would say I mean let me preface this because some people may not know me is that we've been to a lot. My husband loves Ozzy Like he's having a hard time with this, as many, many people are. He loves Black Sabbath. Our dogs have been named after songs and things like that.

Speaker 3:

So the love that Ozzy has is really phenomenal anywhere he goes. Okay, the plain and simple. But when you're in Birmingham, england, where it all began and this event did not just take place at the stadium, there were events and attractions all throughout Birmingham Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's a bridge, it's called the Black Sabbath Bridge and there's a bench there. It's there and, honestly, if anybody goes, there's a live stream there right now and you can see the memorial that's been created at a lot of these places, like there's mounds of flowers and notes and whatever it might be. But yeah, it was there. There was exhibits at the art museum. There was an Ozzy exhibit and you got to see all the plaques for his stars on the Walk of Fame, one in Birmingham and the other one in Hollywood. They had murals all throughout the city and then there was a life-size Lego Aussie in one place. So this wasn't just go to the venue and this is it. It really was all of Birmingham and there were a lot of Americans there, a lot of people from the UK and a lot of Irish there was people from all over, but that's something that I noticed, so but yeah, so the energy, that yeah.

Speaker 2:

Now was, is does, was Oz, oz Fest, the same kind of thing. You know, like just all that stuff out there, like you know, the food trucks and the attractions and things like that.

Speaker 3:

Yes, ozfest, I think that's OzFest. The original OzFest was 1997. And the reason that was actually developed so people know this is that because I think one of the other festivals, kind of shunned Ozzy and Shan, was like no, no, no, we're not doing that. So they started their own and that's how Ozzfest got started. So Ozzfest also had multiple stages. So when you have a whole list of about 15 to 20 acts, do you know what I mean? Like, let's say that the band that we had at this last concert, they all played small on one stage, small sets, but these other bands would play full sets. So you'd have multiple stages, you would have tons of food, yeah, all that. And sometimes, like, you'd have other like tents and pop-ups and just a lot of different things, and it used to travel. And then it got down to the point where they were individual shows.

Speaker 4:

Okay, okay, that makes sense, that is a music festival, so there was just so much going on, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it was like a metal festival.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly the whole entire thing is an event, hell yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and then in the that was 1997 it started. So then in the later years and like they ended up going one-off shows. Japan had a few of those, and then the last two OzFests actually were a combination of OzFests and KnotFests from Flipknot. That's their festival. So it was two days, yeah, two days. The first day was OzFests, the second day was KnotFests, and they were out in San Bernardino, california. So we were there. Yeah we were there. That was the last time I said I'd camp at a festival. That's funny, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3:

And then, after that, ozzy went on, was trying to do his no More Tours. He was on his final tour and then his last show that he actually did before this most recent show was in California and it was on New Year's Eve, 2018 to 2019. We were there and you got to bring in the new year with Ozzy Osbourne spraying us down with water and everything else, and I got to tell you that was the show of all. That was before this show, the show of all shows, because you felt like Sharon and Ozzy created a private party for you, the way there were tables set up outside bar top tables and it was yeah, they take care of you.

Speaker 2:

They appreciate their fans for sure. Now, the funny is that you said that you. I said, oh the super fan, would you be on the show or whatever? And you're like, oh, I don't know about that. Meanwhile, listening to you right now, you are like you and John are like the super fans. What do you think? You guys are awesome? There's more information right there that I didn't even know about.

Speaker 1:

I'm like what? That's great, that is awesome. Jenny, when you got off the plane, did you see anything right away? Was there anything out in the way in the airport that way, in reference to the to the uh the concert.

Speaker 3:

Not necessarily. We flew into Heathrow and which is like around London and there is an airport in Birmingham, but we weren't at that airport but you could tell who was there for the show, because it started. It started at JFK when we left you see people with the shirt.

Speaker 1:

You're going at JFK.

Speaker 3:

And then you get somewhere else. They're like yo, you're going to the show. And there were people we ran into because there was a player show in London or in the London area the next night and so there were people that were there for that and they were like, oh, you were at the show. You know what I mean, because you could buy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was. Uh, yeah, we're. We're very, very grateful and, honestly, yes, I, I'm a fan of Ozzy, I'm a fan of Black Sabbath. I remember, you know, there's so many memories that not just mine and John's relationship, I mean. The first Oscars 2004 that I went to was the first concert I'd ever gone to with John that's the first concert I'd gone to with John even then, and we weren't even together then, we were just close friends so it is a big part of our life and the history.

Speaker 3:

You can't help but learn a lot about them. You know documentaries and meeting them. We just we just saw the osbournes in person in 2022 right.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, yeah, I love hearing all that because, like it's so, it's so cool to be like a mega fan right like actually like go and see all these shows. That's like so dedicated.

Speaker 1:

I really love it and each each, every, you know, each band of course has their own, but you know you're talking about ozzy osbourne. Yeah, that's the guy he's, you know top heavy metal.

Speaker 2:

He's his own brand, yeah yeah there was nobody.

Speaker 1:

Excuse me, jenny, real quick. Gene simmons said he was talking about, and he said there was nothing before ozzy. He said he was talking about it and he said there was nothing before Ozzy. He said Ozzy created himself. Right, he says there was nothing that he could get from the past that he you know that he had in order for him to come up with this idea. Right, this was just who he was.

Speaker 3:

we can say, and he's a legend, yeah yeah, he is and that's, and that's it, any on that stage again, any band that played? I mean, where do you know ever know of metallica to open for anybody? Where do you ever know of guns and roses to open like? These are headlining bands that probably haven't opened quote, unquote, open for anybody in the last 10, 15 years.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean they probably jumped right away Exactly, and they were there and the first thing that James Hetfield said from Metallica was there would be no Metallica without Black Sabbath. Because a lot of people may not know, the first main tour that really Metallica big tour that Metallica was on was Rock. Sabbath brought them out with them and a lot of other musicians too Sharon and Ozzy were very big into supporting young artists Was to support these smaller bands and to give them an avenue to promote themselves and to bring our community together. The rock and metal community is something like when I was brought into. I mean, I've always loved this music, but when you really become a part of this world you realize, like you know, fd shows your very state.

Speaker 3:

It is not unsafe at all because every single person there you're considered family and everybody is aware of every person, aware of them, and right now the Aussie and black Sabbath family, which we're all a part of is is grieving together, they're mourning together and you see that through all the posts. I don't think any of us can pull up anything Google or any of our feeds without something being on there.

Speaker 2:

So right, yeah, that is that is wild man, dad, and, like I said, you know, you and I were talking earlier. You know just the idea of of like. Did you even feel that this was going to be like his last one? Not so much that he was going to pass away, but that he wasn't going to do any more concerts or anything?

Speaker 1:

like that. Yeah, a lot of people are saying that this, he knew he needed to do this. One last thing, get it done. He wanted to do it, he did it, and then he did the other show. You were telling me he did.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, jenny was saying he was taking the comic con and then gone yeah because he accomplished what he needed to do.

Speaker 1:

He was ready and he had every right to and and and. Now you can just pay homage to him. Every time you listen to a song, you're blessed in it and you think about him it, it's, it feels good. You know you probably a little melancholy with it and everything but but overall you're like yeah, I grew up I grew up with ozzy I went to see him here I went there I mean, jenny, you've got this history.

Speaker 1:

that's ridiculous. You know I'm a KISS fan, but there are KISS fans who are like you with. You know the way they are Like everyone has it right. I know a lot about KISS but I was never like that, right To that point where I was always trying to find the show or go somewhere or everything. Not that it was a bad thing, it just didn't do nothing for me.

Speaker 2:

You know I got excited when I did go.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you know, because I'm like oh shit, I'm going to see Yosemite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's just an exciting feeling. So imagine being able to make a life of it and doing that, you know that's awesome.

Speaker 3:

You guys are great doing that stuff. Well, and we do, and you know we've been reminiscing about all of our old shows that we've done and that's what John said. You've got quite a few Aussie shows under your belt. I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I never thought about it, but yeah. And to never thought about it, but yeah and. And to answer your question, kenny, yeah, we did. We all knew that was his last live performance period. We all knew that that was made clear to us.

Speaker 3:

okay, um, and we were even told I say we, the public, you know is that don't expect to to that you're gonna get, like this huge, a whole ozzy set or you're getting a whole Sabbath set, right right, right.

Speaker 4:

This was it. This was it.

Speaker 3:

But for the record he gave us nine songs. He gave us like five Ozzy songs and four Sabbath songs and he was prepared to do like seven or eight or nine Sabbath songs. And I think time is what caught up that night. But every band that played played either a Sabbath or a Ozzy cover. Yeah, yeah. Gnr did three. Gnr did the most, they did three, and then you had your super groups that were together. Steven Tyler was there.

Speaker 4:

That's right.

Speaker 3:

It was, oh my God, it was awesome. I've never seen GNR live. I saw them together. I saw them. Yeah, it was oh my god, it was awesome. I've never seen GNR live.

Speaker 1:

I got it oh, I saw them, we saw them together. I saw them. Yeah, they were good now you're there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I was telling Kenny earlier that that was the first time that Axel met. He was at this show really wow never crossed paths yeah, that's.

Speaker 1:

that must have been huge for those guys when they were on stage just going to town.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Meeting each other for the first day after all this time that must've been so wild.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you can see videos, you can see like online of all this stuff yeah. Yeah, and the head picture and you know, and and we, I, my experience of this show was at the end and I had told Kenny this earlier. I, in my mind, I literally thought this I could pass away tomorrow and, honestly, feel fulfilled.

Speaker 3:

You can tell that he wanted to stand, he won the party. He just wanted to tell us all that he loved us, which he told everybody every single show, and he wanted us to know like he did it on his own term right. And you could tell that he did it with the people he loved most and the people that loved him the most, and you know they took care of the artist, they took care, they took care of everybody like they were your family your family even go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead and finish. I'm sorry, Jenny.

Speaker 3:

No, I'm sorry about that, but, like when we did meet the Osbournes in 2022, I straight up told Sharon like how wonderful we think that they are and, as of I know this is about Ozzy, but her career is with them too. She's been with Ozzy since she's 18 years old, not as a couple, but her father was his manager and then she later on became his manager when he went off on his own from Sabbath. But you know, they were all wonderful and hugging and kissing and everything else and that's how they made everybody feel in their presence. And if you didn't and you crossed them, we all knew it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there's that video floating around where she threw the coffee or tea or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and that chick's face. It was when she had the. Sharon school, the school of Sharon, I can't think of the name of it. And this girl was talking junk about Ozzy and Sharon.

Speaker 1:

But you know what that's, because she's yeah, yeah yeah, she does Talk about me, but don't talk about him. I love that.

Speaker 4:

That's the way people should be.

Speaker 1:

That's it. I saw some of the video to the concert with Ozzy performing. He sounded good. He sounded good, he sounded good. Yeah, he sounded good.

Speaker 3:

He sounded great. He really did, and actually there is a documentary coming out about what he had to do to prepare for this particular show. Yeah, so there is that coming out that we know of. And then, additionally, there is a movie coming out of the concert next year 2026, and it's going to be compiled down to 100 minutes. So what I'm guessing I don't know, but what I'm guessing is that you're probably going to get all of the covers that all those bands played, and then you're probably going to get the super groups and then Ozzy and Savage.

Speaker 2:

That's my guess, because how do you put?

Speaker 3:

eight out, yeah, eight hours into, you know, 100 minutes, yeah so, and some of those artists are still. If anybody gets a chance to look up Youngblood's changes performance, it's he. It's unbelievable and he put that out as a single, I think that same week and all proceeds go to the same charity. So it's still collecting money and it hit number number one on the chart wow, that's so freaking great man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I love lamb of god did the same thing. Yeah, they. They're one of their songs, the cover that they did, and all of the musicians, I think, got sneakers. They were Ozzy Osbourne. Adidas custom sneakers.

Speaker 1:

Come on.

Speaker 3:

And, yeah, randy Blythe, who has a wonderful story of his own, that's for another day. He is the lead singer of Lamb of God and he went to see Ozzy as a fan to Comic-Con the following week and had him sign him so he could now auction them off for the charities as well. So that's the other takeaway from this. From that last show in Birmingham, every artist that was there again was not just saying I mean, they were fans, they were fans themselves, because when we were going to all these attractions around birmingham they were there with us. We were waiting on line to go on the bridge and there was randy blythe, the singer for lamb of god and the drummer for massive, on there chilling with us, talking to us while we're waiting, and taking pictures.

Speaker 2:

Wow, yeah, awesome yeah that's freaking amazing.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that must have been you really see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, experience sounds amazing. Yeah, like that was like literally bro, that's a once in a lifetime thing, like no, I mean he passed. I'm just saying, like, just everybody being there and and out hanging out with the fans, you know, and they just want the fans and that's how you know. Like you just said, Jenny, that that's a family, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like that, those the metal people, like that's they are, they're all fans and, like she said, fans. So these guys were jamming to these songs, you know.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, I want to play this.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, absolutely, hell yeah.

Speaker 3:

You playlist? Absolutely Hell, yeah, do my version of it. Oh my god, slayer did this amazing sandwich. They either started with a Sabbath song, then they went into a Slayer song, then they brought it back to that Sabbath song.

Speaker 4:

Oh my god, oh yeah, there's a word for that. Right, there's a word for that. I forget what it's called.

Speaker 1:

It sounds pretty cool, though, that they there's a word for that I forget what it's called the remix.

Speaker 3:

It sounds pretty cool though that they do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, trippy is what it's called. Yeah, I bet I bet it is.

Speaker 3:

And Metallica played Johnny Blade. Which when do you ever hear Johnny Blade Like you hear? Metallica do that yeah yeah, it's a very rare one. And you know what? Speaking of family, my 18-year-old niece got to go to this show.

Speaker 2:

Wow, See, that's awesome. She'll never forget that it was cool.

Speaker 3:

No, she won't. It's like saying you're at Woodstock, you know. And this kid got up at 5 am when these tickets went on sale and got our own tickets because the maximum tickets you could buy were two per household. So, if I bought tickets and then John bought tickets and they had the same mailing address or a credit card or anything, they could cancel your tickets at any time. You didn't want to take that risk, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So this kid got up. Yeah, this kid got up at 5 am. She got her tickets before I did and then yeah, so in turn my brother-in-law was able to go. If I didn't get my ticket, I would take him that second one. I'm going to tell you right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, beat him up real quick, right, yeah, yeah, that is awesome. Look at it.

Speaker 3:

You can't get any better than that man, that man, his first concert, you know, I looked up what that term was.

Speaker 4:

I had to look it up because my my brain wouldn't let me uh. It's just called the melody, because I know I know, I know bands done that before like don't mix the music didn't metallica do that with uh king diamond, not king diamond the band king diamond was from.

Speaker 3:

I can't think of the name. Well, he's on his own now but, yeah, I can't think of it. Merciful Fate. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4:

So they did like a melody with like three songs.

Speaker 1:

I love the songs.

Speaker 4:

It was like nine minutes I remember it was on, like I think, Garage Incorporated or something.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome, man. I'm so happy for you, though, that you were able to actually, because, I mean, you were talking about this for a while. You were right, oh my gosh that was awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. The buildup was good. My poor husband has high anxiety. The poor guy was so anxious before we got on that plane. But I was glad that once we got there, you know you could embrace it all and again, be with your you know Aussie family and Black Sabbath, aussie family. You know we got to go. The crown is the bar where it all began, where they played. You know we got to check that out. I mean a pub, but you couldn't go inside, but you were outside.

Speaker 3:

You know these, all these things. John wanted to go to Aussie childhood home. He goes. I regret we didn't go there. I'm like, how do we know he goes? It's public information. However, with that in mind, I did notice there was something online and there is a note outside that childhood home and there is a email address where people can leave messages and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty cool, that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he, I mean obviously, you know, not listening to everything that Jenny's saying. You know he and Sharon, they really were about their fans. You know what I mean. They really did have that kind of love for, because that's who put them there bro. Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But you know some people are like, yeah, whatever, don't come to my lawn saying it's just that it's someone who appreciates. They know why they're there for the reason your fans are what make you. Yeah, you know exactly, you have that following like that yeah, yeah, no, it's, yeah, you can't get that.

Speaker 2:

All the way on that and then and not give them right I'm saying yeah, yeah, like he was a good guy about that yeah I mean because, like you and I talk, you know, would switch up the little funnies that, like, for me I want to be famous, like that. You know I would love to be famous and you know, because I'm that kind like I think I can handle it. But there are some people that just can't handle that fame, that attention, you know what I mean and they just can't function. And he used it to like to just make people happy yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like, like she was saying it, it kind of he built community yeah. Yeah, that is awesome.

Speaker 2:

And I'm bugging out still that that was huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And how many bands. Most of the time, it's outside right, Jen. What do you mean?

Speaker 3:

It was, it was always outside.

Speaker 4:

Isn't that?

Speaker 3:

what kind of blew up?

Speaker 4:

Pantera, isn't that where they, like Ozzfest, kind of blew them up, or was it? Or they were already kind of big.

Speaker 3:

I'm not sure about that I don't want to misspeak and somebody come at me Fair enough.

Speaker 4:

Maybe We'll say maybe.

Speaker 3:

I believe you are correct in that Pantera definitely like Pantera. Definitely Pantera probably got big, they'd get bigger. Well, actually here's a funny story. The first time that John ever got on a plane was to go see Pantera at an office in Texas. That's the first time he ever got on it and the only reason he went there was to go to that office.

Speaker 1:

Really, he just flew there to do that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. That's amazing, and that was before GPS, you know. Remember Google Maps? Right, right, right, exactly so he and his yeah, he and his friends got screwed up because they only printed directions in one way. And then they didn't bring him to go back.

Speaker 2:

But, anyway.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I think Pantera at a point opened for ozzy and and or I don't know if it was sabbath or ozzy or probably both, but yeah and then. Then that really led the way for them. And you know, metallica, they were with metallica too yeah, I, I guess I'm.

Speaker 4:

What I'm just saying is like it's kind of like the same same thing, like, like, as, like you know, the fact that, like all those bands kind of that got to go to oz fest were like would get amplified. I mean, like you said, that was like the whole point right, like so they like all kind of blew up from that, which is so awesome yeah, it's got to be a rush as well, though think about it.

Speaker 1:

You're at the oz fest. Yeah, you know you're jamming, yeah, how you know and did you put?

Speaker 2:

the rush alone must be yeah please, if you.

Speaker 3:

It's a long day. It's a lot and it's doable. We've done them back to back too, like two days in a row, like you go from Connecticut and then all of a sudden you're down to like Philly, like back, you know. When they're two days in a row, it's a little.

Speaker 2:

It's a little much, it can be tough.

Speaker 3:

But, yeah, you got to know when to recover and it's a little different now that we're in our 40s too.

Speaker 2:

But you know it's getting older now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, we can still do three concerts in a week, but usually they're not back to back.

Speaker 1:

Just spread them apart a little bit you know, yeah, spread them out.

Speaker 2:

We'll stay at the Airbnb. You would catch up. Yeah, you know, we always got tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, no, yeah, actually here's.

Speaker 2:

No, you first. Sorry, sorry, no, no, you first.

Speaker 3:

There's a thought that just came to me too is that I just found out because I saw Kenny a couple hours ago and since then we were supposed to go see Pantera in Jersey next Thursday.

Speaker 3:

However, they just canceled their next like three or four shows, shows to mourn for what's going on and they played a couple shows a couple nights ago, but yeah, and they added Planet Caravan back into their set and with that song they have pictures of Dime and Vinny. So, for people who don't know, they're brothers from Pantera and they both passed away and so they pay homage to them. And now they put Ozzy in it. And, yeah, that was Wednesday night I think Tuesday or Wednesday night right after it happened so they just canceled their show, so our show just got bombed. So, who knows, this memorial or celebration of life that they're doing for Ozzy might be sooner than we think you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's what popped in my head. Yeah, yeah, no it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. That's what popped in my head, yeah, yeah. No, it's interesting. Stuff branches off of it, you know. One thing happens and then all this other stuff starts going in different directions, because he was like, he was the face.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. He was like his music when people didn't even know like who exact Ozzy was right, but they knew his music, Like they could hear, like oh, I love that song and people would sing it, but not even know who Ozzy Osbourne was.

Speaker 1:

You know what's even nicer too, when you see today I saw a video Ozzy on stage somewhere and there was a young kid with a flying V it was like a blue guitar and he was doing the solo to Crazy Train what. And then Ozzy picks him up and holds him while the kid is doing the solo. It was it's a rush.

Speaker 2:

You get the chills just thinking about it, you know, because this kid is jamming and he's doing it perfect. Yeah, I know, that's awesome, that's a crazy solo.

Speaker 3:

I mentioned Youngblood and I forget what's wrong, but he is an upcoming artist. And Ozzy and Cher Ozzy there's a video out there from the show that Ozzy's telling him you let us know if you need anything. And he looked at Ozzy and he said the music is enough.

Speaker 2:

He said the music is enough.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for the music. The music is enough. And see, when Ozzy saw him last he gave him like a nice cross, a personal cross from Ozzy to him. So when he saw Ozzy at the show he gave him a custom cross to Ozzy. And here, this is crazy. This guy performed in England, did this song Changes, then got on a plane to go to Belgium immediately to headline his own show.

Speaker 2:

Wow See, that's love right there, man yeah that's love.

Speaker 1:

I'm really mad, I couldn't you got to sleep on the flight, yo listen hell yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yeah, the things he'll do, man. That's why it's like you know what so much respect, and that's nothing but love. You see, nothing but love for Ozzy. But you know reality shows. Look at that. First reality show was the Osborne, so for anybody who doesn't even know Black Sabbath or Ozzy from their musical industry. Oh yeah, we do, I will. But, to then see them from that reality show and then sharing out there. You know we've grown to love the family and that's it. They all do everything together was that the first?

Speaker 4:

like celebrity, like family, like reality?

Speaker 3:

I think so I think he's right it was the first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because after that reality show, yeah that's, that's, I'm not gonna question her because no, no, no, no, no yeah no, no, no, no, I'm just talking, wow, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

And then, all the other ones, yeah, started coming out after that. You know all these different they did yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I can only say that with certainty because it's come up you know, and again, when you know, whether I want it or not, I hear and see. It's like meaning, you know, because it's so passionate and I don't want to sound like a down player, but like interviews and documentaries, and there's a one out there called Patient Number Nine.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 3:

Jack Osborne is actually the one to produce it, anybody who can see it.

Speaker 3:

go and see it. We saw a special screening. I mean it's already been out for a while, but when we were in Birmingham there was a special screening of it and then Jack did Q&As after. We didn't get to go a, but we were there and you saw some extra stuff and it really shows, you get you into that world of ozzy and that family and you know there was nothing daffodils and daisies all the time you know he does a lot of poltergeist, a lot of ghost hunting and, oh yeah, he was doing that a lot of big foot stuff.

Speaker 1:

He does a lot of crazy stuff.

Speaker 2:

His son his son is amazing.

Speaker 1:

I love him. He's great.

Speaker 3:

He, you know he goes and checks these things out, you know well, yeah, when I met him, I'm sorry, go ahead you first. Yeah, go ahead, I'm just gonna say when, back in 2022, when we met the osborne that's one of the first things that I told jack I was like we live near the ufo capital of new of new york or the east of. The first things that I told Jack I was like we live near the UFO capital of New York or the East Coast and he was like really, where is that?

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's Monroe, New York.

Speaker 2:

No, no, is it Monroe? Pine Bush, Pine Bush. Pine Bush yeah, that is funny. I took a picture with stormtroopers there. Oh yeah, that's right, because they have the what do you call it? The parade.

Speaker 1:

That's right. That is fucking hilarious Alien parade.

Speaker 2:

But my question to you, though, jenny is so you know, I grew up and saw Band-Aid when Queen performed Right, it was Freddie Mercury's last performance, and you know he's there and he was singing and everybody in the crowd sang with him, like they showed it at the end of the movie. And you know I was in front of my TV.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Like I swiped his hand.

Speaker 1:

I know what you're talking about, so now was that I know the children. I don't think it was his last, though it was his last big concert.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, Live Aid. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

I think it was his last big one. No, I could have sworn, that was his last big one.

Speaker 3:

I think you're right. I think it was the last big production that like people, but I think they still did more. They still did more.

Speaker 1:

Because he was sick and he knew that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he did it for as long as he could.

Speaker 3:

And he did it actually pretty much close to the end.

Speaker 1:

All right, I take.

Speaker 3:

I believe that nobody really knew. It's after that performance that everybody then found out. Okay, so yeah he didn't tell him. But yeah, so now was that the same?

Speaker 2:

like the way he had the whole crowd just singing with him and want to be? Was that like kind of like what, what, what? The concert you went to was like you know what I'm saying, the whole concert.

Speaker 3:

The whole concert was like that, and especially you know, ozzy ended his set with Mama. I'm Coming Home.

Speaker 3:

Everybody was saying to that, like I said, young women's deployment of changes. I mean, like, and Ozzy played a lot from that first album with Randy Rhoades. Most of the songs, I think All but Mama, all but Mama I'm Coming Home was from that album. And then, yeah, so you there, you definitely felt it. You felt the love. You know everybody was singing to it. Hey, we walked into the museum to see the art exhibit and they had a video screen there and mama I'm coming home was coming on and on and John said, uh, come on everybody, and mama I'm coming. So there in the museum you have everybody singing the song yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. So, you definitely yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love that feeling when you go to a concert and, of course, so many magnitudes that she went to. But most of the time when you go in the band, lets you sing, but most of the time when you go in the band, lets you sing yes, yeah, when you should like, they want you to do it, and you hear the audience. It's. There's like a you get this rush.

Speaker 4:

I did that in our concert. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, metallica, metallica will do that too. Yeah, billy Joel does it a lot. That is awesome yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you feel kind of groovy because you're singing the song Like you know the words, you know now that like you almost feel like that connection with the artist.

Speaker 1:

And the people around you, because you're all jamming together. Yeah, that's sort of the lighters you know coming back the lighters, not just standing there singing, yeah, singing everybody rocking together.

Speaker 2:

That's right yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's awesome, and even if you don't know the words, you still enjoy it and you're singing and just loving it.

Speaker 2:

You know, the energy.

Speaker 3:

The energy it's like a natural. It really is a natural high. You know we're all putting out this positive energy and feeling the love, like you're all there for the same reason. How could you not enjoy that? You know what I mean it's like, from the moment I was standing in line. I'll preface this by like all we were fortunate to have friends there as well. Like it was the four of us childhood friend of John's and then two other people. We all have separate entrances because we all have different tickets.

Speaker 3:

I had an entrance by my. I was by myself, by myself, so I met a brother and sister online and that was just it, like instantly we were friends, they shared a drink with me online. We walked in and we hung out together until I met up with my group.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we had another.

Speaker 3:

Let's get a pint. Okay, let's get another one.

Speaker 1:

You know, nice sound like we gotta go anywhere, yeah, yeah right, no place, we're here.

Speaker 2:

we're here during january, exactly yes, is the venue was different.

Speaker 3:

The venue I'm not going to speak ill of the venue, but that is one thing, that there is a difference. Of that we noticeably see from the US.

Speaker 1:

I heard that ice is a big issue out there. What Ice? They don't give you a lot of ice, you have to ask for it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yes, no, it's terrible. Yeah, no-transcript. You know, and they did have sniffer dogs there. I saw somebody get pulled out of line. Yeah, I'm standing in line and all of a sudden these sniffer dogs are like uh, you want to step out of line? You said it to someone and yeah.

Speaker 4:

I was like sniffer dogs.

Speaker 3:

I'm like damn you know that's insane.

Speaker 2:

They did not play sweetly. Oh, no way. Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

No way I would have been like I figured everybody was sniffering. Well, you know you got to. Especially with something that big, you get people. Unfortunately, in today's world you have to be safe.

Speaker 2:

You know you got to have some kind of security. But wait, you got to have some kind of security. But what are you talking about? They were sniffing for weed. No, I think they were sniffing for drugs.

Speaker 3:

I'm sure they were sniffing for anything, but I think they were mostly sniffing for drugs, most likely.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying I'm surprised, like you know, I mean not saying that everybody. I think there's a few people that, yeah, I mean yeah, the bad guys.

Speaker 3:

It is so different from here. It is so different.

Speaker 4:

Right, I love that.

Speaker 3:

It's so different than the area.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's hilarious or a little bit more. It was awesome.

Speaker 4:

There's something about, though, seeing like a band or an artist that like is like legendary.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's like a different atmosphere than going to see like a newer band.

Speaker 4:

I mean. You know what I mean because you hear them on the radio your entire life and then all of a sudden like holy, I'm here, well, I'm seeing them play.

Speaker 1:

I could test that, yeah you know, when I was a kid, I was 11 years old yeah, I wanted to see you kiss with more than anything, yeah, and the only person that would take with me is my uncle, right. So I had to see you kiss more than anything, yeah, and the only person that would take with me is my uncle, right. So I had to go, but I I totally forgot he was there. I was jamming, yeah, I was. I had my guitar, my drums, yeah, everything. I was just jamming to that concert. And then, when they came back and did the reunion, I went with my best friend. That was pretty cool because that was awesome, because they both got back together. You, you know. So you get that, you know that excitement.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's cool to go through that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it. That is freaking bump.

Speaker 1:

Be able to tell the story you know, yeah that is great man. Real quick, I get a real quick story. I actually cut out of school. I won't say how we got there into the city. The kiss was, it was when they didn't have. They took the makeup off and they had. Uh, what was the album it was?

Speaker 1:

I can't believe, I can't remember this but anyway we cut out of school to go see them. It was at sam goody's grocery from radio city, yeah, and I got caught between the glass because my friend I, this not this line's not even moving, because everybody tried to go in on once so nobody can get in. So I got caught between the glass and the people and they were pushing you can feel the glass not in the break and they pulled me in. So I got an autograph Paul Stanley, Vinny Vizowitz, and you know it was just but that happened.

Speaker 2:

That was pretty cool. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

That is sweet, but that being said, Well, jen, again I appreciate you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for doing this with us man.

Speaker 4:

I mean, that is such an awesome story.

Speaker 2:

It was great.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thanks for having me, guys, and you know what I know. This is a side note, but we have a lot of stuff in my house. It's like Ozzy all over it, but these limited signs and posters I we are, we're so grateful to have been there. It's not about all that stuff, but it's memories and you really feel like the love in these things and it reminds you of this and, like you said, tom, like to see these legendary people.

Speaker 3:

It's and even with him passing, it's like you know, know, like Jerry Garcia or um, yeah, you know what I mean. Like this is.

Speaker 1:

He's up there. Yeah, he's with the top ones, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. So, uh, yeah, Well, thank you, no problem, thanks guys, all right. Well, thank you, don't hang up.

Speaker 2:

yet though Jenny Give me one sec.

Speaker 3:

I won't, I won't.

Speaker 2:

And to everybody else. Thank you guys for listening. Love, peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and stay weird yeah.

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