Small Town America Lives

The bridge is green, people are mad, and somehow that turns into one of the clearest conversations we’ve had about how small-town America actually runs. We’re joined by Matamoras Mayor Corey for a hangout that starts with laughs and ends with real takeaways about infrastructure, road safety, and why a town can’t deliver “instant gratification” without somebody paying for it. If you’ve ever argued about potholes, snow plows, taxes, or “why doesn’t the borough just fix it,” you’re going to feel seen. 

We talk about what makes Matamoras, PA special, from the Delaware River and the Pocono Mountains scenery to the simple stuff that builds community: tunes in the park, flea markets, food trucks, breakfast with Santa, big Halloween nights, and even an adult prom theme night. Corby also breaks down a model we love: if you want something to exist, step up, make a plan, and let the town support you. The Tree of Heroes veteran tribute is a perfect example of civic engagement that actually works. 

Then we go sideways in the best way, into generational habits, psychology, and why herd mentality takes over when fear hits. COVID stories come out, from panic buying to workplace chaos, plus Corby’s “I need to stay busy” moment that ends with a koi pond. We also get into his day job as president of Sussex County Community College and how statistics, psychology, and leadership show up in real decisions. 

If you care about small town life, local government, community building, or just want a smart funny conversation with a mayor who keeps it real, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a neighbor, and leave us a review, what’s one thing you’d change or start in your town?

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Transcript

Welcome And The Green Bridge

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Live from Crawford Studios, C C and NJ Guy. What's going on, my people? How's everybody doing today? Good. Special guests with us today. Yes, special guests. Mayor Corby from Madame Morris. Said the easy way. Super simple. Yeah, yeah. Gonna have a good time, sit here and uh BS a little bit. Have some fun. We're gonna laugh and joke and talk about anything and everything. Whatever's attracted. Curious. I'm bringing up the bridge again, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 0:24

This guy is dumbing the bridge. He loves the story. Okay, all right. I love the bridge. What a bridge is supposed to look like. Green. So Green. Now we can move on. That's what we want.

SPEAKER_06 0:35

Well that check that one off the stuff. Well, let's not stop. We did. That's what I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

So we're gonna confuse this shit out. We might as well uh explain it now because everybody listened to what the hell's it?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 0:47

Exactly. You're funny as hell, man. Yeah, I guess the people just took issue with it, and I just made it a joke out. It's supposed to be. Yes. What color is a bridge? They sandblasted it, right? They cleaned all the rust, they cleaned that assuming that's how they fixed it structurally and all that.

SPEAKER_06 1:01

I mean it's a bridge. Does it get you from one side of the river to the other? That's all I care about. I don't care what color it is when I'm driving. As long as it doesn't fall, everything is good. I did not smell things, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:11

You guys got rid of the grates or are the grates coming back?

SPEAKER_06 1:13

So we got rid of the grates, right? So we got rid of the grates because we kept having to replace them every few years. So we now we want we're gonna do a paved surface right across. The other thing was because motorcyclists all this wobbling the shit out of their bikes, you know what I mean? Going right over not a good condition. If you ever go over when it's raining out, you slide all the fish tail all over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Yeah, it doesn't grip. Yeah, I've done that. No. And it makes such a weird noise when you're going all over that. You got the winter's bird bridges that you go. But you do you feel those?

SPEAKER_05 1:42

Right, and then the tires are kind of moving a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Yeah, you feel that.

Events That Keep A Town Close

SPEAKER_06 1:45

I mean when I was a kid, like floating under the Great Bridge was great. You know, you see every car going over. Beautiful. Now you don't get that. But what do you do? You know, we have the uh we have the tunes in the park, we bring in local bands and they play for the community in the park. And um we have some flea markets going on, some food truck vendors, adult prom, I think, is correct. Right, that's right. I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

Oh, and it's gonna be a certain venue. I mean, as far as uh type of dress, right? So 1930s.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

So is this like uh like a fun raiser or is it like over my wife?

SPEAKER_05 2:16

Right.

SPEAKER_06 2:17

It's just just like a fun thing, or is it a fundraiser? It's kind of a fun thing. That's cool. Yeah, I mean that's so like uh Yeah, that's what I said. Like living living here my whole life and growing up here, like all these like little fun things like my mom used to do back in the day, and I was always like, why do you spend so much time on this? But like, you know, it's more than your family, right? It's like that little ecosystem of the two, which is why like I was like, I want to be a part of that. Yeah, like I want to be in a small town. I want like my daughter rides bikes all over the place. I don't know, like she'll go down the street, no concerns. Yeah, right. Like it knows every neighbor, every neighbor's like, hey, did you know? Hey, did you know Lou's out here? Hey, did you know? Yeah, but I was like, something to be said for that. Yeah, yeah. Small town America's not dead, it's right here. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

So what so what's what's the adult problem? Is that like so everybody dresses up and like dress up in the tuxedo and dress if I heard correctly, it's either the 19th century.

SPEAKER_05 3:11

1920s, I think, or something like that. 1920, okay. Right, you know, oh like great gatsues and great gatsu party. Yeah, I think. I'm not sure. I could be wrong. So I don't want to, you know, but uh I didn't get the spark notes.

SPEAKER_06 3:22

Don't show up my morning. I get the spark notes from my own. And when is that one supposed to be? June? I think so. Right? There's so many events, it's really great. There's so many things going on. It's hard to keep track of what's going on.

SPEAKER_05 3:35

Well, you just did the uh Easter uh breakfast. That was cool. Right? The Easter bunny was there.

SPEAKER_06 3:39

That was cool. That was cool. Yeah. Easter breakfast. We do a breakfast with Santa every year. We do a big Halloween. Right. Yeah, yeah. That was a big Halloween. That was fun too. That was fun. Yeah. That was fun till you had to clean up, but it was fun.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

I have to say, growing up, that was something I feel like a lot of the town I was in did it, and other towns nearby did it is the pancakes with Santa. That's all right. That's something I always looked forward to as a kid. Absolutely.

City Kids Versus Small Town Life

SPEAKER_02 4:01

That's fun. Easter was uh Coney Island. That was it for me. What's that? Uh Easter back growing up and stuff. So these guys had the small town or smallest you know areas. They had this. You and I lived in Brooklyn. So my neighborhood was here. I went down to OLPH or the C one of the, you know, no, went to Coney Island.

SPEAKER_06 4:20

Or went to my friend's house because your parents are sorry for living in a small town. I'm just letting you know, though.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

We're catching some hate across the T.

SPEAKER_05 4:26

Oh no, I you know I live in a small town now, right? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, definitely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

No, listen. I think it's riding the bike. I mean, you used to ride bicycle to the inside of Brooklyn, anywhere you wanted to. So I mean, I feel what you're saying, you know, that the same thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:41

It was our neighborhood, we we knew it inside out the way your kids know it here. I think it's just a you know, and I had fun growing up in this city, too. You had to dodge the cars instead of busy. Yeah, but still, we wouldn't we were the only generation that knew how to say car when you were playing or any game in the street. Yeah, right. Nobody had to tell us that. We just did that car and then you got out of the way.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

Well, we used to play hockey in the street where I grew up.

SPEAKER_06 5:04

Okay. Absolutely. We used to play the ball. That's our whole psychology about generations, too, right? Yeah, right. In the psych field, you know, your generation always thinks the next generation after you is like, look at those kids doing that. Right. Of course, next generation. They don't have the work ethic we did. You know what's funny?

SPEAKER_02 5:21

I think I'm one of the few that thinks a little bit different. Okay. Because I'm always like, why aren't you doing that extra? You know what I mean? Like, like you're a bunch of fancies, nothing. I'm just like, yo, what you doing? Your mom's not looking. Go. That's what I do. I just I'm a bad idea.

SPEAKER_03 5:35

I feel like that's what that happens. Like, it's like the Gen X people are like, oh, these fucking millennials. And the millennials are like, fuck these Gen Z people. You know what I mean? And then Gen Z's gonna be like, Gen Alpha, fuck them. You know, like it's a very bad time.

SPEAKER_05 5:46

But the truth is that it depends on, like, you're close to Gen X, right? So you're kind of like right in the city.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

I'm in what they call the Xennial, which is the microgeneration, which is like between 1971 and 1985. They consider like it's like because like I grew up, I grew up Gen X parents. I grew up, I had a Gen X childhood, but my adolescence was millennial. Right. Because that's when the internet happened. We were doing AOL chat, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like that.

SPEAKER_06 6:11

But like growing up, like growing up, I was like, What's your screen name in AOL?

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Um God. Manson 1120. Bro. Because I was I was I, you know, back then late 90s, Marilyn Manson. I thought it was so cool. Mine was Yeah. That is hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Mine was 2,000 men. Really? Yeah. I should track it.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Yeah. 1120 means nothing, by the way. There's no date. It was just like a random.

SPEAKER_05 6:35

What do you think it's from? It was a stone song. I don't even know. Oh, okay. I thought I was so cool. Swirling.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

Right? It's about the song about the future of Taman. Right, right. That's three. That's three on now. No, no, no. I don't know kiss.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Rolling Stones too. Sorry, you don't get out on it. I'm sorry, bro. Yeah, I'll give you that. I'm in another place right now, man. I'm in a different head. I'm not focused. Sorry. Sorry, man.

SPEAKER_05 6:57

You gotta get there. You gotta get there. I j I think it's supposed to be like that. You know, we get to a point now, we're getting older now. We look at the you know, people who are younger than us and we're like, Yeah, really? Yeah, we used to be that. We used to be the kid running around doing all that. And then when you look at really like we we went to go see Tanya's mom at the uh therapy place, you know, physical therapy. And right here in in um I think it's uh Milford, I think, right? Considered the one right up over there. Anyway, or Matamores. Anyway, but they they were you know, you see the old people and you're thinking, these people were once young. They did everything that you know that everybody's doing now. It's like I'm trying when I look at it, I'm like saying, you know, they weren't always like this all their life. They they had to get to this point.

SPEAKER_06 7:43

Well it really tees it up to like the whole, you know, you know, YOLO kind of situation in the millennials, right? Like that whole thing came around you only live once, right? Yeah, yeah, right. And like social media expounded that for like our millennial, because I'm a millennial right in the middle, right? Right. You know, it expounded that to say, like, you know, we're gonna be there one day. And like, what are we waiting for? You know what I mean? So that was one thing I always took advantage of. I was like, I don't know, let's just do it. You know what I mean? I was like, there's no point in waiting, right? You die tomorrow. That's exactly it. Before you get there, like have a have a life and look back and say, man, look at that life, dude.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

No with no regret, right?

SPEAKER_06 8:22

That's exactly it. And that's what it's about, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like I'm I know, like for me, by the time I was 21, I had already been up and on the East Coast, Canada, Mexico on vacation. That now with my kids, I'm like, make it happen. Get the hell out, go have fun, go travel and go see things, you know. Like my son, he travels to Tennessee. My daughter goes to Tennessee, she does, you know, all her trips, she goes and hangs out in Texas, and she just came back from Texas, actually, you know, and she'll go on her trips and vacations and hang out. I'm like, that's the idea. Yeah, the youngest one was in freaking Columbia.

SPEAKER_05 8:53

We kind of did the same thing though at our time. It was more going away for the weekend or going upstate or going skiing or things like that. Right. We didn't really travel for once in a while. You did go on some crazy trips, but it wasn't like it is now.

SPEAKER_06 9:05

But it's almost like too, like when you look at Matthew Morris, right? Like circling back and bringing it back to Matt Morris, right? Where you are, you know, I've been I I I stayed here, I went away to college, blah, blah, blah. But then I didn't realize what we have here, right? Like you're in the Pocono Mountains on the Delaware River. Right. You know, Boston's five hours north, Washington, DC is five hours south, DC's a train right away, Philadelphia's two and a half hours away. And you're in the mountains and you don't know in the metropolitan area, and you're like, this is this is heaven. Yeah, I love it here, man. It's great. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

You know, I have to say, coming down the highway here on 84, coming down just that whole scenic. Oh, it looks just that is awesome. Driving down the Greenville mountain, it's so amazing. And then just like when you come out to the Matthew exit, you just got like the mountain is just like a wall. Yeah. You know, it's so cool. It's so cool looking. It is. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

Yeah. I I can't lie. I I miss the city though. I miss that city life. That's just where I've always been.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

And the crazy part is above that mountain is still Matthew Morris, right? That's still Matthew Morris.

SPEAKER_06 10:05

Westfall Township, but Matthew Morris zip code. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna split up a little bit. Oh, it is, okay.

SPEAKER_05 10:11

I do too, Kenny, but when I get down there, I'm already looking forward to going back. Really? Yeah, because it's not the same as it was when we were. Oh, yeah, no, definitely though. So yeah, it's nice to go back, you're in the city, you know, you're hanging out, even like Manhattan or whatever. You love it for the time of year. But you're like, yeah, I want to go.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

I just like the hustle and bustle. I enjoyed it. I'll tell you what. When I left Brooklyn, when I moved out of Brooklyn, I was 20, gonna 21. And I have not slept a nifty, groovy, peaceful night since I left Brooklyn. Like I need to have that hectic still background.

SPEAKER_05 10:41

You should go to a hypnotist and just say, hey, now on, when you fall asleep, you'll always be in Brooklyn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:46

I want to go back because is nifty, is nifty an adjective? It's a verb. I think a verb. And groovy?

SPEAKER_05 10:53

Like, what is it? Yeah, groovy. All right.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Yeah, but that's funny, bro. I didn't even think I didn't even think about you sounds like, oh shit, I did say that. Yeah, it's you, but yeah, no, like I said, I don't I never have had, I haven't had that peaceful sleep since. Like me hearing, you know, whatever animals walking in the bushes and the woods and shit.

Snowstorms Taxes And Realistic Expectations

SPEAKER_03 11:14

I'm like, it's funny though. I have a funny story about Mattamoris. So that so that mountain is Westfall, you said on the top of the mountain is Westfall. So like I guess. My friends, so like my best friend growing up when I was in like high school, post-high school, his his aunt had a house there, and like we were like, I don't know, we used to take like just random joy rides because like you know, you're cooped up. I grew up in Burton County, right? So it was just like Burton County, you know, just like you're cooped up. We're like, oh, let's just go for these joy rides, and like let's go drive up. And it was in the middle of a fucking snowstorm. I don't know what my I was thinking. Oh, yeah. And we're like, so we drive up the mountain and we got stuck on going up the mountain. And I had at the time, it was I this was in 2000. I I had a 1988 Pontiac Grand Dam, my grandfather's old car. It was a ham. That was my first car I handed up. So like I get stuck on the mountain and the plow trucks are trying to get around us, they can't get around us. We're stuck. Except the plow trucks, too? They couldn't get around us.

SPEAKER_06 12:14

That means everybody on the mountain's pissed at you. Oh, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

I'm gonna find this guy. Yeah. Oh my god. He's here. I don't remember. Yeah. The guardrails are like in that area, they're just cables. They're not really guardrails. But as as I'm just to give you a couple of times, as I'm trying to get the park, it's going more towards it. Yeah, I had a girlfriend at the time, she's like, Pentagons? Oh, she was in there?

unknown 12:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

She's crying.

SPEAKER_06 12:37

She's like, We're gonna find them. That was it, and that was our first and last date. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Yeah, we broke up when we got back home.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

How soon after did you break up?

SPEAKER_05 12:46

Uh still lasted a while. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

It's a pretty toxic relationship. Yeah, it's okay. You know, we're just dead. The drive last longer than it should have. But that's a whole nother story. She's going to therapy for days.

SPEAKER_06 12:57

But yeah, no, no, I got stuck up on that mountain in the snowstorm. But that's the funny thing about, like, especially Madame Morris, right? Yeah. You know, is everybody moves over here from New Jersey, New York, and they're like, man, why don't they plow? Why don't they do this? But I really love your tax base. You know, keep the low taxes, but I still want to. And you know what I say too, and like, you know, and whoever's listening, sorry, but like don't like, oh, what about the pothole in front of my house? And what about the snow plow? And I'm like, well, look at this. I was like, the snow filled in your pothole. Now you're gonna go. It's a flat rod. Yeah, man. Like until the spring comes. But that's what I mean. But like there's there's a give and take on all of this. Right. That folks like on the on the end user level, right, like don't understand, right? Like there's a budget set, and then like if you want, we could raise taxes a million percent, and all your potholes are fixed, but then you're gonna be right back to where you came from. Right, you know, and like there's something special about this. Like get used to dodging that pothole on Fifth Street because you know it's there. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

Well, you know, go buy the the the the cold the coal patch and just do it yourself, you know.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

It's like you know, what's that 30 bucks? And there's that understanding thing, you know. Right. I mean, everybody's so yeah, but they get on it eventually.

SPEAKER_05 14:04

I mean, it's you know Well, you would hope so.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

Everybody's so like instant gratification. Right. Well that's what everything is. Like life is like ever since Amazon came on and you're like one click Twitter, yeah. Now everything about life is like I expect it to be done. Oh yeah. That's life.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

Shit happens today. I want it done.

SPEAKER_06 14:20

Yeah, you know that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

You know, sorry, but bye.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Proficiency and everything. Like everything's gotta be right now. Right.

SPEAKER_06 14:27

They complain about the kids like that. Like the kids don't read emails, blah, blah, blah. I was like, well, I put in an email to you, buddy, and like you didn't look for the bullet point. Yeah, yeah, seriously.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

No lie, bro. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny as hell, bro. No, it's it's it's it's well, I think it's just cooler, like you said, living in a small town, you know. It's nice. And and more people just kicking back in, you know, to the quiet, you know, giving in quiet. Yeah, and I said that's cool. I can't do it on a regular. Like I I just I can't. I need a little bit of traffic.

SPEAKER_05 14:54

Like, well, my wife, my wife now, she volunteers, you know. Right. It's too quiet for me, bro. Like my ears are ringing.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

I think he would get used to it quick.

SPEAKER_05 15:01

You can get it. Yeah, right, then I'll be all right. Why don't you just get that that background playing the city noise and everything? That would be a white noise. No, because that playing. Everybody usually does waves, so it gets traffic.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Yeah, beat the horns, you're going by.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Right. Yep, hit the fake uh police siren on the shape. I actually grew up in a small town, but it was in a congested area, so it was like a small town, but not a small town. Kind of like a quasi like a Yeah, like I I grew up in uh the town is Rochelle Park, which is next to like Paramus and Hackensack and Maywood, but it's like a super congested area, but it's a small town town was a mile and a half.

SPEAKER_06 15:32

It's but it was it's a tough area now. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

It's kind of weird because it was like a busy area, but it's also a small town. Yeah. That's funny.

SPEAKER_06 15:39

Yeah, the whole thing's rough. But like in all small town American towns, right? Like let's use Mattamorse's example, and we'll multiply that out by thousands across the United States. Yeah, you need exactly what happened here, and I'm a little biased, right? Sorry. But like you have a kid that grew up here right down the street from where you're living now, right? Grew up here, went away to college, got a doctorate degree, very successful, blah, blah. Then came back to that same town and was like, hey, this is what I learned while I was away, and here's how I'm gonna make my town better. That's cool. Yeah, like folks, yeah, that's always a good thing. Folks are missing that perspective. Yeah, because most people are like, all right, I'm going to college, I'm getting a I know. That's the that's the worst, is when you're like, hey, watch me do this, I'll I'll show the kids what's up. Yeah. Then you're like, you fake the best. Yeah. You don't have back pain. You're like, yeah, I'm good. Don't worry, I'll see you guys in a few hours. I gotta go out and go outside for a minute.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

Yeah, I'm gonna go help your mom cook. Dad never helped someone cooking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Yeah. Come into house. This this area of town used to be an airport, right? Correct. Yes. Is that in your time or like way back when? Like 60s, 50s. How far back then?

SPEAKER_06 16:40

So it closed down in it must have been 69 or 70. But the original development of the airport, which was only a stone's throw from this house, actually, was it was trained used for World War II pilots. Oh, so it wasn't like a commercial airport. No, it was used predominantly to train World War II pilots. Oh, nice, okay. The old fire department used to be the hangar where the planes came out of down the runway. Right. They still do the helicopters there, though. Yeah, that's exactly it. And then the uh Dev dir uh Durvin Circle right over there used to be like the barracks where folks slept that little circle up there. And the last thing Mattamorse has to commemorate the airport is this old runway light down here, which is run down forever, um, ever since I was a kid. And every year, again, right? Like this whole thing, every year. We should do something about that. We should do something about that. We should do something. Now, when you're in the position, like, well, let's do something about it. Yeah. So now this uh this uh kid called me up and he's like, hey, do you have an Eagle Scout project for me? I go, absolutely. That's a perfect one, man. Now we're sanding the whole thing down, fixing it up, putting some lights back in there, putting new lenses on there, and we're gonna commemorate the the uh heritage that was the airport back then. Nice. That's cool. Yeah, that is way good. Again, it's all about coming full circle. Yeah, it's nice size to that thing. It's big, yeah, yeah. It's nice size. And what we want to do eventually is so we have Veterans Memorial Park on the other side. Okay, and then we want to bookend it with like, we'll bring in like an old World War II plane donated, and we'll make like a little heritage to Airport Park. Nice, nice, yeah. Like over here on this side. So, yeah, we got some good plans for the communities. That would look nice. I would love that. That is awesome. And again, it was like all those things like when I was a kid, I was like, oh, they should have done this. They should have done this now when you're in the position where like, let's just make it happen. You know, do it. It's better than those like uh social media. It's better than those social media warriors that are like, hey, you should do XYZ, but I'm definitely not running for office myself. Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

You should.

SPEAKER_06 18:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna do it. But you shouldn't have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

Yeah, you should make it happen.

SPEAKER_06 18:34

You're in a face of yeah, that's exactly it's wild. Yeah, that that shit drives me nuts. Yeah, no, like there's one thing that really irks me, is just what folks like talk smack and they just don't take it into their own hands to do anything. Respect everybody else to cater.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

Yeah, well, how would somebody do that, honestly? I mean, and I'm not trying to be an ass or anything like that. Like, uh, so how would someone take the initiative to do something that they they're you know, they're saying, hey Mayor, you should do this, and you like, oh no, go ahead, get it done. So, how would they go about it?

SPEAKER_06 19:00

It's very easy, right? Like, you look up this street, and like a great example of that, and it's so funny because we didn't even set this up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a great example of that is this woman up the street, brilliant. She's always been involved in the community. She goes, We should do a tree of heroes to honor our veterans on Christmas. Okay, and we'll hang their pictures as ornaments on the tree and we'll let it up. I go, Well, that sounds like a great idea. Have at it. And so she ends up making the plan, she puts all together, gets a tree, the borough helps her dig the dig it out, they plant it, she runs the events all herself, and like that's awesome. If you want to take initiative, take initiative. You know, if you want to talk, keep talking, you know what I mean? And do anything about it. Yeah, it's really cute. However, like we don't have time to do that.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

And you're there to you're there to support them, obviously. That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_06 19:43

No matter what, if somebody has an idea, we'll support it. You know what I mean? I was like, because that's what the town is, right? Like it's all a collective ideas of people who love this town and live here and want to be want to make it better. Right. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

That's always good for everybody.

SPEAKER_06 19:57

Well, that's what I mean. I was like, who's gonna say no to that? Right. Yeah, I agree. Well, I mean, I'm a statistician, you know, I'm still just a statistician, right? You have so you have your bell curve, right? And you always have that 2.5% on the side so that no matter what you do, you piss off everybody. Maybe giving everybody a thousand bucks are like, well, it's not fifteen hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I'll take it. Yeah, it's not 15. Yeah, yeah. Just go to me anyway. Put it in my microphone.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

Give it back. No, no, I'll keep the thumbs. I'm just saying. Yeah, I understand.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

I'm still pissed off about it. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 20:27

That's kind of aggressive shit.

From Horse Bets To College President

SPEAKER_06 20:28

Glad that you bring that up. You also teach as well, right? Uh yeah. So I teach, I'm the president of the college, right? You guys know that. So I run the entire college. I've been doing that for about a year, but I teach uh psychology. I do institutional research, sta stats. So I'm a big statistician, regression, correlations, all that fun stuff. And uh so I have a good well-rounded background there. Right. How did you get into that? The stats and all that. Oh betting. Well, I yeah, that's exactly the horses, my grandfather. I will say my grandfather used to give well, he's passed since now, but so he used to give us all change, right? Okay when we were kids. So this isn't where it came from, but he used well, maybe until Freud's butt so he used to give us all change, and we used to watch the horse races on uh together on the TV and we used to have to bet on the horse races. We're like five years old and we're like, put a nickel on six, and like as kids you're like, oh, this is cool. But um, but fast forward, uh I I don't know, I always had a knack for numbers and stats and statistics. Stats are the most logical math that we can do as humans, right? Right, yeah. You know, you don't get into like the calculus imaginary numbers and all the theoretical basis of physics and all that fun stuff, right? Like, because then it just doesn't make sense anymore. So I got into that, and then the only reason I got the job at the college, actually, so I got my master's in clinical psychology, and I'm like, you know, in May of 2014, I was like, you know, I'm gonna take a summer off, I'm gonna do something cool, you know. Right. So I went to Lowe's and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna lift refrigerators for summer, just a like a cool job. I was a football player, you know. So Lowe's goes, comes back, goes, you Too overqualified. Okay. So I they wouldn't even hire you? So I was like, and not to throw Lowe's under the bus, sorry, Louis, or Home Depot, whatever you want to say. But the uh so then I was like, all right, well then what am I gonna do now? So then my mom sent me this job as a director of institutional research at the college. I don't even know what that is. Yeah, seriously. You know, I was like, I I could talk, right? So I was like, I'll go into the interview and I was like, if I don't know it, I'll fake it. Right. Fake it till you make it, man. And then I get in there, then I get in there and I'm like, I think I did well. And I get a phone call like an hour later, and they're like, hey, do you want the job? I go, sure. And then 12 years later, you're the president of a college. So you know you know really cool things. Yeah. So what college is that? Uh Sussex County Community College. Oh, very cool. Northwest New Jersey. And how long you've been doing it? I've been there over a year now. Nice president. In Newton. Yeah, yeah. All right, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know it up on the hill there?

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like I so like I do maintenance for all the different stopping shops, so I know Newton very well because if I'm working at the Sparta, I should plug next to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

You're almost like so they call my dad Google. So dad drives from Mondeleese and they call him Google because he knows every stopping shop on the East Coast. Yeah, because he delivered there. That's hilarious. I'm like, oh, you know, Lafayette. He goes, Oh yeah, the stopping shop. If you drive an hour this way and turn this way and down the street, it's a great stoppage shop.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

That's hilarious. Okay, Dad. Yeah, that is funny. Yeah. And that's it. No, it's funny because uh is that uh I had a friend we used to call him uh Google Maps and MapQuest. That's the same thing. Yeah, same idea. Because like you just knew where everything was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:28

Well, that's like driving with Mike. Yeah, right. Mike, he's with the head tech of the place that we work for. And uh he like he knows all these back roads. So if you're driving and if you're driving, he's like, all right, you're driving, and then look, all right, make it left here. Yeah. And go around this way, and we're going to get to where he's going, but all back roads. Yeah.

unknown 23:46

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

Not he doesn't want to go on the highway. Not that he isn't like it, but if he has to, he will. But he'd rather not just go back to the road. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 23:51

I'll go to Down and I'll be like, hey, I'm down in Oh, which way did you take? I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 23:55

Sometimes it takes you to a pretty good uh, you know, you know, I mean, when you're going through the mountains and everything, like when I used to come home from uh working with you, yeah, and I would go through Jersey, it would take me another back way and then cut through um oh god, I can't remember this. The over there. Um right before you get on 84 to get onto here. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

Oh, that's w how I go when I get here. I take I I cut through uh the black dirt farm with the Pine Island Islands. Pine Island, all that's really that's good stuff.

SPEAKER_06 24:20

Yeah, it's all that's where my dad used to hawk hawk onions as a kid. Yeah. And that's uh and that's the other thing about being in the college presidency. So my parents didn't go to col nobody went to college in my whole life except for me. So when I got into this world, I was like, what is this? Right. You know what I mean? Which makes it like it's so much nicer to not have a family with a college background because you're able to take college and make it like normal, like to us regular people. You know, you turn it on its head and be like, well, that doesn't make sense. Let's change it. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Not like one of those like elitist people with your nose up in the air, like, no, you just went to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody went to college and I was like, bro, bro, I don't know. I just played football. That's the only reason I'm here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

I was like, what the hell? You didn't get that memo?

SPEAKER_06 25:05

That's exactly.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

Very cool.

SPEAKER_06 25:07

Yeah, very cool.

SPEAKER_05 25:08

I didn't go, but my son made it. He went to Ithaca.

SPEAKER_06 25:11

Ithaca's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_05 25:12

Yeah, he loved that place.

SPEAKER_06 25:15

They say uh it's a catch line. They say Ithaca's gorgeous because of all the gorges. Yeah, there you go. Thank you. I went right over my ass.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

So you brought it up. I was like, uh they did the boothy road trip with Tom Green. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 25:30

But it's not actually the campus, though. No, it's not. That's not what they say. Because I know it. I went there so many times, you know, I moved to pick up my son to go and visit him or whatever. So yeah, but it's beautiful up, it's college town. Everything is college out there. Yeah. It's nice. And then you have the other one right across the way. Uh what's the other college right across from Geography's not much strong? And they actually have a good brewery in that brewery.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

They make a good yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:54

Then he lived in Rochester for like six years. Like he just drove straight across and then went up to Ryan. That's how and every day he said they every day it snows here, Dad. Every day. Because it lake effect.

SPEAKER_06 26:05

We went and uh so I played semi-pro football a little bit. I went to Lebanon Valley and I was an all-American football player there. Then I played semi-pro a few years in grad school. Right. And I always remember one of our games was in Watertown, New York, and it was like April with like six inches of snow. And I was like, what is this? I was like, what is happening here? Yeah. Canadian national anthem. And I was like, must be close to it.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

I was like, I don't even know where we are. Yeah, you could have just done the football.

SPEAKER_05 26:30

You don't remember going through like customs or anything like that? No.

SPEAKER_06 26:34

Here's a regular like college ball player. Oh, there's my black ball. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Cornell. Cornell versus across the way from me. Got it, got it. That is too fucking funny, bro. That's funny. He didn't even know he was in Canada.

SPEAKER_05 26:47

Yeah, yeah, right there.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

That's funny as hell, dude.

SPEAKER_05 26:50

Holy shit. Well, that's with the Niagara Falls, right? One side is on the New York side, one is on the other side. That's right near Watertown, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Watertown is right there. My father was in the Army National Guard. He would go for two weeks. I think it was Fort Drum up there, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was two weeks, that's where he would go.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

That's hilarious, bro. For the guard, you know? That is too freaking funny. Yeah, no, listen. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_05 27:12

I remember going up there as a kid.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

It was beautiful up there. But that ride is family in Buffalo. I got snowed in there one year for uh for uh Christmas and shit. New Year's. I was supposed to be back in Brooklyn for New Year's. I was not making it, bro. Nope, we didn't make it, dude. Everything was shut down. Eh, dude. Oh man, no. My daughter was stationed up in Buffalo for a little while, and she was like, Yeah, she sent me a picture. She's like, Dad, come get me. I can't drive through that shit. What am I gonna do? Yeah, let me grab my shovel.

SPEAKER_06 27:41

That's the same as people like in South Carolina when it snows in there. So like, what are we doing? I can't even drive either because they start thrashing into each other.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

It's like, yeah. That's like that video in Texas where they got ice and they were just like, and nobody thought to slow down for a second.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Like, yo, what the fuck? Yeah, this is you can't go slow.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

If you're in a in a state that normally doesn't get snow and ice, and snow and ice, uh, stay home because there's gonna be accidents because they're not prepared for it. Like if you're up here, we're prepared for it. We got salt, we got plow trucks, we're good. But like down there, they don't know what to do. Like everything shuts down.

SPEAKER_06 28:16

I like how he slides in that PSA. If you are in a state, please stay home. I watch those videos and I'm like, if I'm in Texas and there's snow accidents, I'm not leaving the house. Even if there's a little bit of snow like this, because they don't know what to do. That's the thing. I was like, I trust me, I don't trust you. Yeah, exactly. I'll stay.

SPEAKER_05 28:35

Oh wait, let them all go and then they'll go after me.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Driving by. Yeah, because I watch those videos and I'm like, they're not prepared. They're at all. Like we're so prepared. Run flats. Yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

And if they have any plow trucks, it's only like one. Yeah, yeah. Not even. It's the homeboy's pickup truck. Yeah, exactly. With a plow, a little Kubota. He tied his kid to the front. Like my cousin from New York is very happy. Like if they had a freak storm or something.

Panic Buying Psychology And COVID Stories

SPEAKER_06 29:03

But I'm also like, just stay home for a night and it's gonna melt the next day. Yeah, yeah. What rush do you have? Like, where are you going? What do you need to do?

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Well, because they see everything on TV, so they think that it's snow, it's gonna snow. And they're running, everybody's running out to go to Walmart or whatever. You do that here too. Well, yeah, do it here. It's the best. Yeah. Oh, it's the best. I'm like, dude, you guys are stupid. Just sit down.

SPEAKER_05 29:23

You know, but we're prepared. We know how to do it. We're not like kind of run into the store like, you know, in a panic. It's gonna snow, all right. I gotta get the supermarket, some stuff and bum. It still gets busy. It does get worse.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

It's still busy, yeah. Me, I'm like, whatever, just calm down. The milk, eggs, and bread.

SPEAKER_06 29:37

The psychology of panic, right? You know, in groupthink, you know, as soon as one person's like all of a sudden the herd just goes, it's all herd mentality. And that's why toilet paper was out of stock. That's all it is. Like, we're not like, and it's so funny, like from a psychological psychological aspect, humans aren't that different than like cattle, you know what I mean? Right, right. Like as soon as one person goes, we're like, oh shit, like maybe I should go. And then all of a sudden the next person goes, yeah, oh shit, that person went, I'm going too. Yeah, no. And then all of a sudden you have a big herd mentality. And then there's toilet paper and stock.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

What are you gonna do with 90 rolls of toilet paper? Nothing, bro, because I went and got the wipes. I'm just saying. And there's no toilet paper on the shelf, I'm like, oh, you dumbasses. And then eventually they'll start it on one. I remember but it was still not as fast as well.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

I remember in 2020, I was driving behind this guy and he had cases and cases of Lysol. It's because he had a hashback. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

What the hell are you doing? Yeah, it's to throw it, bro. That's to sell it again because now you bought it for three bucks. Right. Now you're gonna sell it for a while. Or was he a hoarder? It's still out of the back of the show somewhere. He was making money because you know you never saw that car again, right? Yeah. So he bought a new car. Exactly. Dude, I'm telling you, man. Yeah, no, that's always a reason for it.

SPEAKER_06 30:49

I'm not going down dealing life cell wipes in the parking lot. Yeah, come on. Yo, what you want, what you mean? You take them out of some point and you put them in a little plastic.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

What you want? Got it right here. Stop by. Hell yeah. Got him in the zip bag. What you want? You want the fresh spring? Yeah, yeah. Got the coat, you soak in your coat, you got the shit hanging over. Like you're a flash, you open it up. Got all the got the lemon fresh, hot. It's like the guy who has like 10 watches on the bottom. Yeah, in his arm.

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Except I just got like all this. You want a Rolex? I got a Rolex.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah. That's not a Rolex, that's an Alex. No, no, the R rubbed off. I got you. Put up the pen. But there's always somebody out there that that got mine.

SPEAKER_05 31:28

We're gonna make some money off of this. Quick, quick cash. Yeah. You know? Yeah. My my cousin, when he when that was going on, he was making masks. Oh yeah. And selling them. Yeah. I think he was doing it on eBay or something like that, if I'm not mistaken. I still got the one. He was making money. Huh? I still have the one talking about. I still have the one talking. Maybe I have Star Trek one, I have Spock. I have the Yoda one, just the Yoda subject.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

People were making uh like makeshift basement sanitizer. I don't like grain alcohol hand sanitizer and grain alcohol. Right.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

And add aloe.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Aloe. Did you have to go to work? Like we or did you stay home? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:01

Yeah, yeah. I mean, to run a college, you could do it remotely. Right. But I'm a big like personally, I'm a big like I like to separate work from home. Right, right. Because if I work, everybody's like, oh, work from home is so cool. Not to hate on anybody who works from home. No, hey. But I'm like a big like, if I work from home, then I'm gonna go out and cut the grass. I'm gonna come into a meeting, then I'm gonna do laundry. Come in, do dish. Like I never got to like true, like get into that like flow. Yes. That makes sense. You know, which is why I like like my 40-minute commute. Like it's a really cool, like decompressed time. Right. Yeah, right. So at least that gives you that right.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

That gives you that balance to show it.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Yeah, yeah, I love that balance. Because that had to work straight through. We didn't get it. Tim and I were working on the right. Right, right. Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_06 32:39

We went my so but the first week of COVID, like a little funny COVID story. First week of COVID, I'm like, well, what the hell am I gonna do now? Yeah, yeah. Like, as you guys know, I'm like, I'm a big like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, what next, what next, what next? So the college shuts down for the week, and I'm like, well, what the hell am I gonna do? I was like, oh, I should build a koi pond. I was like, I always want a koi pond. Did you do it? Yeah, and I dug the whole pond, and then all of a sudden, I have made it quicker. Then I start out, then I start digging, and all of a sudden, burning it off. I'm done. Yeah, that's the problem. Like, I'm drinking a beer, then I burn it off. Drink a beer, burn it off. And I'm like, I'm not doing anything. So I'm like, finish this koi pond. And then all of a sudden I'm four feet deep in this pond. And I'm like, am I doing this, Steve? You know what I mean? I dug down, and Seth is like, you know, it only has to be two feet deep for the koi. I was like, I just started digging. I felt like Shia LaBeouf and holds it. Yeah, you know what I mean? I was like, I'm just dulling for it. You know, so I built this big ass koi pond, and then that was like day three, and I was like, Well, now what am I gonna do? But it I still have it. Things are beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 33:38

And you got it filled with koi and everything? Oh, absolutely. Awesome. Absolutely. Do you what do you do in the winter time with them?

SPEAKER_06 33:42

Do you no they they go down to a bottom they drop down to like a like a bubbler in there or something? Yeah, you put a bubbler, but they drop down to like a beat per minute. They're hard. Really? Yeah, they're so cool. Especially with four feet deep, it never freezes. Right. Right. Oh, but yeah, the whole thing is wild. What a great experience.

SPEAKER_05 33:59

Yeah, yeah. And you did it by yourself? She didn't help at all at once, right? Yeah, she did.

SPEAKER_06 34:03

She spray paint.

SPEAKER_05 34:03

She spray painted where she's gonna be.

SPEAKER_06 34:05

All right, I'll see you inside, honey. That's the help right there. I mean, if I mean if she listens later, yeah, she was she's my inspiration behind the little boy. I couldn't have done it without her.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Oh, I thought you were gonna say that you ended up digging it so big that you made a pool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:21

Well, I thought about it. I was like, do we just keep going? Yeah. No, I'm not done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't use gloves. No, I don't use gloves. Again, back to my daddy's smack me upside the head if he used to watch. We don't need a gloves. That's exactly what's gonna be at the end.

SPEAKER_05 34:36

You'll get them anyway, even if you use gloves. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:38

Uh but it was fun.

SPEAKER_05 34:39

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 34:40

It was all good times. That was my COVID story.

SPEAKER_05 34:42

Yeah, no, we're funny. We worked through it working in the supermarket, and it was just crazy seeing how everybody was in the supermarket. Right. You know, and walking through and seeing the shells bear and everything.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

It was just the first person I saw in one of my stores. Oh man, they had a full like hazmat suit. Shut up. I remember you telling me about that. Oh my god. You had the gloves, helmet, the fucking like with the mask, like fucking Marty McFly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

And it's funny because of the things that you didn't even think about. Well, I, you know, I didn't have a full hazmat suit going to work or whatever, but they said you had to have your eyes covered and uh, you know, the whole mask and everything going. I bought ski goggles on Amazon.

SPEAKER_06 35:18

So you're walking around with ski goggles.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

I was at the job, not you know, when I was in my car in the house, you know, no, nothing. No, no, no. It was too hot.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

It was too fucking hot. He was driving with a mask on in the car.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah. Yeah, no, I didn't fucking know for that shit. Like, fuck that. I'm not doing it. Yeah. Nope. I had all the shit, bro. I had all the gators and whatnot, and the masks and the whole thing. Yeah, it was fucking hilarious, man. Flickering. Wasn't me. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 35:44

But he's a point to blame it. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Meanwhile. Is it so regularly happen with you guys? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a bully. He's a bully, too.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

Is he a bully?

SPEAKER_06 35:52

No, he's not. I couldn't see that. Yeah. The new, the Lou I know. Yeah, uh huh. Yeah. Not a bully, man. He's a Yankees fan, he's from the Bronx. Yeah, hello.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Oh, wait a minute. Don't look at me, bro. Don't call the wrong bird. Look at him looking at you. Yeah, he's like, he's saying I'm from the Bronx. Hold on.

SPEAKER_05 36:10

Did you just say that to me? Did it on purpose? I know. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, when you get these wannabe Boston fans, you know.

SPEAKER_06 36:16

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 36:17

You know, and they're not actually from where that my the team plays, you know what I'm saying? It's easy to jump on board and be in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

Hold on, can I brush my hair over here and do that? That's right. That's all right. Oh naturally, I wasn't always this beautiful. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 36:34

Who's like, you know how much money I saved on shampoo this way?

SPEAKER_02 36:37

I do my own haircuts. Yeah. That's the funniest shit, bro.

Raising Kids Here And Easy Day Trips

SPEAKER_01 36:40

When you told me that day boy, I laughed so hard, I fell, you're fucking funny. How long have you you were born here, raised here, everything, right?

SPEAKER_05 36:51

Yeah. And your father and your mom as well?

SPEAKER_06 36:53

Uh they're from Goshen in Middletown, New York. Oh, so and then they came here. Yeah, they came here, yeah. Okay. You know, they came here, so I was three, I think, when we moved here. You know? So I think three is a few. Now you got your kids, and then it'll just keep going on. Hopefully it'll keep going on. My kids are here, my kids love the town, same thing. Yeah, amen. Hopefully they go away, hopefully they come back to know what I mean? And then you keep that going. You know, it's like a uh and I love like outside perspectives and ideas and things like that, but there's something to be said for like folks that like know the culture, know what our expectations are, right? Right. So yeah, but it's been uh yeah, what am I? I'll be 36 next week. Thank you. Tax day. Next week. Tax day, April 15th.

SPEAKER_05 37:32

Well, wow.

SPEAKER_06 37:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

Mine's the 29th.

SPEAKER_06 37:34

Is it the April 20th? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:37

Oh, Taurus.

SPEAKER_06 37:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:39

That's okay. Not as great as yours, but I I get it.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

Yeah, no. No, it's good. It's it's better.

SPEAKER_06 37:45

We're crying out. Yeah. I didn't want to say that. Yes, we're crying out.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Love a peace. Yo. Oh my god. That is too freaking funny, man.

SPEAKER_06 37:55

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the kids the kids love the town. You know, uh, I love the town. Everybody loves the town. And you know, and like I said, the best thing is we just catch the train, we go in, see the tree lighting in the city, we come back, we go to Boston, the Fenway. We go down to DC, we see the cherry blossoms, we go to Philly, Reading Terminal Market. All those have you guys ever been?

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 38:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Redding Terminal Market, best place in the world. Yeah, dude, it's awesome. You can buy anything you ever wanted. You know, it's freaking great. It's brilliant.

SPEAKER_05 38:22

I haven't been in a while though.

SPEAKER_06 38:23

Oh, yeah. The whole thing's brilliant. Yeah. But like I said, those are mostly day trips. You know what I mean? You can go down and back if you wanted to. Yeah, right, right. How far is it from him?

SPEAKER_05 38:31

From uh Philly? No, I I was thinking Boston's tomorrow.

SPEAKER_06 38:34

Boston's like five hours?

SPEAKER_05 38:35

Boston's uh Philly's only what, two and a half, three hours? Yeah, about two and a half, three. Oh, that's not far at all. Tanya usually is such a cool city. You guys see the flower show down there. The flower show in Philly? Yeah. And then usually they have like a butterfly display or something walk in, and it's like she Or in Haley, you like used to go like once every year. They would go. Philly's not Philly's not bad. Philly's a cool city.

SPEAKER_06 38:56

Philly's a lot of little things, you know. There's a lot of if you find the little things in there and you look past some of the other things, you're good. Like much. Philly's a rough city, man. My favorite city all time is DC. DC's my favorite city. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_05 39:08

I grew up I I used to go to summers in Maryland.

SPEAKER_06 39:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

Silver Spring, Maryland, and we was going into into uh ride of metro into DC and all that, and that was great. That was always fun to do. Yeah. You know, it's better just to take the metro, don't don't even drive in. You could, but it's just a nightmare going to DC with your car. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:24

Yeah. Any cities and especially DC rush hours.

Local History From Runways To Mansions

SPEAKER_05 39:27

Yeah. It's like just get on the train and go, you know. And the metro is nice usually, you know? Uh it was fun growing. Because for the summers, I would go down there. So it was nice. And my parents used to like you travel. We used to go on trips and go to historical places like Boston and and you know, wherever, and just go and check all those things out. What historically here do we have that we could go to right here, Madam Morris? Down the street. Now we did you know, you know that Full Moon Paranormal did uh a uh an investigation over at the museum in in Milford.

SPEAKER_06 39:58

Oh, did they? Oh, the columns over there.

SPEAKER_05 40:02

It actually has his blood on the on the actual flag from when he was assassinated.

SPEAKER_06 40:06

That's cool. Yeah, and they did a well not about him being assassinated. No, no, no, but yeah, but they have that. They have an appeared glass box. Yeah, yeah. No, take that out. No, I mean there's a lot of history in the whole area, right? Like when you think when you think back, like, you know, the Delaware River, so society and civilization overall, we always clamored to water. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 40:26

Right.

SPEAKER_06 40:26

So before we even had like an actual civilization there, when you think on what happened on this little turn here where we happen where Mount of Morris happens to exist, like when you think about what the history looked like, like it's pretty amazing. Right. There are probably some really cool things that happen in this exact spot. Right. You know, you have the mountain and you have the river right here. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 40:45

Geographically, there's a lot of cool things.

SPEAKER_06 40:47

But that's what I mean. You're like right in the center. So like, even though like maybe we don't have it in modern history written down somewhere, right to like what happened in this, that there's no way they're like, oh, this was just a field.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

There's a lot of land in here living in Jersey. Like, there's there's spots all over the place, all these old historic buildings and old historic houses. Washington slept here, Washington's not there, a lot of places. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of these houses you got around Georgie.

SPEAKER_06 41:16

But over on uh 206, uh Gibbs Tavern over there. I don't know if anybody knows that a little like hole-in-the-wall place, really cool, little cool dive bar. But Babe Ruth used to go there all the time out of the city. You know what I mean? That's where you that's where you get away from it all. That's like Gaudy owned property in Pike County for the longest. But like you're you're again you're an hour, hour and a half out of the city in the mountains. Like when you think about like the cool people that were up here and the places and what happened here, you want to get away from the city. That's what I mean. There's a weather we know.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Well, I mean, you've been saying that. So Newburg, and I was telling these guys before, uh Ricky Ricardo, Desiernez, and Lucille Ball, their first show was in Newburgh. Let's go. At the theater in Newburgh. Yeah. So I mean, like you see. A lot of people came up, a lot of jazz singers and stuff coming up to you know, like in Platicill and coming over here, you know, all the the campsites and such. Isn't GW's house over there too in Newburgh? Yeah, one of them, you know, like up by West Point. No, no, but the one in Newburgh. It's um Washington headquarters. They actually redo just the headquarters. Yeah, Washington headquarters, that's right. Yeah. So I mean, you know, it's all good.

SPEAKER_06 42:15

He had a lot of houses he got around. Yeah, he doesn't say, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Because he was in Newburgh, New Windsor, over here.

SPEAKER_06 42:22

It was probably also the other thing of uh when you're gonna list something on the historical side, they're like, well, what happened? Like, well, George Washington probably slept here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

He was in the area. And you're a statistician, so you probably say, Yeah. It was probably more like it's like he was on, you know, like, oh, you want to sleep here? Sure. Oh, it's okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh, get the tobacco. Yeah, he was on a TY. That's like a big thing. They have all these Bay Mansion, Day Mansion.

SPEAKER_06 42:53

That's cool. We had one on the college campus. We're fixing up the Horton Mansion. So John Horton was the first settler of Newton, New Jersey, there. And his mansion was there, it was all farmland. And what happened was the Salesian brothers took it over, Don Bosco College took over, but nobody actually did anything to the building, kept like kept falling down. And so now we're going in there doing architectural drawing, we're gonna bring it back to what it was, you know. Yeah, I love that kind of stuff. Back in the that's what I mean. I was like, there's something about it, you know what I mean? Preserving history.

SPEAKER_03 43:23

But like when you walk past it, you know, you see like it, you feel like you're it's like it's when you go to Europe, like all the buildings are old there. Like it's nice to have like that old buildings to like pr preserve history. It's a different perspective when you look at it, right?

SPEAKER_05 43:38

Because you're like, wow, this is how they lived and this is what it was. Look how small the doors were the windows, yeah, things like that.

SPEAKER_06 43:43

You know, just absolutely. See, and the opposite on the m our mansion, the doors are ten feet high. So our doors are massive. Really? Oh, every doorway. So now we're like we look at it and we're like, oh my god, like imagine not having modern tools and do shit like that. Yeah. Oh my Be able to do that. Yeah. Wild. You know? Brick by hand. So much better than like we have. And that's why they're like, that mansion will be there long before long after mountain, you know what I mean? No doubt.

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