Big Questions About Tomorrow And How We Live

If you want a podcast that sounds like real friends thinking out loud and actually testing their opinions, this one’s for you. We take feedback that we “never get controversial” and switch things up with a run of debate questions that start fun and land surprisingly deep.

We kick off with a classic future technology thought experiment: if you could bring one invention from the future into today, what would you choose? The conversation goes from Star Trek fantasies like a food replicator and transporter to practical ideas like next-gen medicine and diagnostics. Then we hit a choice that feels like it should be simple but isn’t: speak every language or speak to animals. Along the way, we talk AI translation, smart glasses, dialects, and why a “universal translator” would change travel and everyday life.

After that, we get into the stuff people actually argue about at dinner: participation trophies, what milestones really deserve a celebration, and whether the 9-to-5 work schedule is outdated. We also dig into nostalgia, why some remakes fall flat, and how music and food can instantly pull you back in time. Finally, we tackle parenting topics with care: LGBTQ representation in kids’ cartoons and curriculum, parent choice, age-appropriate content, and the line between gentle parenting and needed discipline.

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Transcript

Welcome And New Debate Format

Lou 0:02

Live from Crawford Studios. C C N J Guy. Woohoo! My peoples. What's up? Welcome to today's show. How you doing? Everybody good? Yeah, I've great. I feel like we haven't seen each other in forever, dude. Yeah. Like for some reason. I feel like we've eaten. Oh my god. I hate to see you guys in front of you. So much. Yep. So everybody, today is Lewis's choice.

Which Future Invention Would You Pick

Keny 0:26

Well, it's not a choice. I wanted to do something different. Okay. Right. Because, and this is the reason why. I got feedback from people who have listened to our podcast. Right. And said mention to the fact that, yeah, you guys are good. You talk about a lot of different topics. It's good conversation. These guys hanging out, talking, whatever. But I noticed you guys don't really get controversial. You don't get into a debate with one another. So I thought that's actually not a bad idea, but I didn't want to go in the direction that we don't do. Right. So I had to figure out what's something good that we can get into. Okay. And I have a list of something. So it's going to be some good ones, like easy ones. And then I'm going to throw a controversial one in there. Uh oh boy. All right. But it's nothing you got it's what's going on today. It's with the vibe that's going on. Mark, this is for you, Mark, because this came from Mark's. So let's give it a lot. Drum roll piece. If you could bring one invention from the future into today or into the past, what would you pick and why?

Lou 1:19

So we have to Okay. Alright, so think of something that could be invented. So I mean, all right, so if we do something from now and take it back. So if we did something that we have now that we didn't have as kids, I sure wouldn't be the telephone. I'm gonna tell you that right now. I would not bring the telephone.

Tom 1:35

No, but are we supposed to bring something from the future back to when we were younger or into now? Or we make up an invention. If you bring one invention. Oh from the yeah. So okay, I'm gonna say right now.

Keny 1:47

So from right here, we're in the future, right? We're presently in the future. That's how I look. Okay, all right, cool. To when we were kids. And bring it back when we were younger. And I would imagine uh future into today. Oh no, from the future into today. So we have to make something. So right away you'll be traveling.

Tom 2:03

I'm gonna go Star Trek and I'm gonna say I want the food machine. Okay. The replicator. Yeah, I want a replicator. The food replicators. I want a replicator. I'm gonna be able to eat whatever the fuck I want. Whatever the fuck I want. Yeah, that's it. That is a good one. Yeah, but that's a good one. And it's also vegan. Yeah, because even if you eat meat, it's not through an A. So you could be vegan and eat a T-bone if you wanted. You know what I mean? It wouldn't be from a cow.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Yeah.

Keny 2:32

So that'd be pretty cool. How about you? What did you think about? I would think something along medicine, a cure for something. I would okay. Yeah. Something to help with something they had, you know, like um now they're starting to cure a lot of that stuff now with with uh But yeah, I would think something along that line. Bring something back that could take care of you know what I mean? Yeah. What bring them up? A medicine from the future. Like Star Trek again. Here we go. Star Trek. Even then they lay you on the table, it takes your freaking body size, everything, everything. Yeah. You know, they can read everything.

Lou 3:05

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be cool. That would be cool. Now I said I wouldn't take a telephone back from here. I meant like I wouldn't take like a smartphone and take it back to the phone. Oh, yeah, yeah. If we're gonna go future bringing it to here.

Tom 3:17

Delete the smartphone from well, I mean it has good advantages. Yeah. I would just want to delete maybe some some of the bad shit.

Lou 3:24

Right. Well, yeah, like but for me, like I said, you know, I would I wouldn't mind like so on that the TV show uh upload when they have their phones, they go like this. So I would like to be able to do this and like you know, be that would be my communicator. You know what I mean? Oh, I see what you're saying. So then instead of having a few. Like on their watch. And it was a smart watch. So then either that you turn around and you can't. You would have the glasses too, bro. Well, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't I would just do, like I said, I would just go like this. Right. You know, like if the phone rings, I look to see who it is, I say, Oh, hey Lou, what's up, bro? How's it going? You know what I'm saying? Dom, you sexy bitch. What's up, man?

Keny 3:57

They had that one now that they're showing where it's like it shows up on your hand, it's like a wristband, and then it just comes out in front of you of like a hologram. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. We just type on it and everything. That's also a Star Trek. We need a hologram machine.

Tom 4:09

That's what that'cause that's would do the smartphone. And then that just goes by gestures.

Lou 4:13

I would like a a transporter. I said if we're gonna go under, you know, in the the thing of of stuff of Star Trek. I mean, like, I would love to see.

Keny 4:21

You know what? How about a a vehicle from some type of vehicle from the future to the to now? Oh, again, so that then if you're it would definitely wouldn't be using gasoline or anything like that. It would be totally different technology and it'd probably be so much safer.

Lou 4:34

So then it would be like a uh like a hoverboard. Something you know I mean, so that I would I would say then like um that would be Star Trek and get the speed the speeders, the speedsters.

Keny 4:45

Subwiss does that crap too.

Lou 4:46

Who you have SABUS has the Star Wars, yeah, it had the Skeeters.

Tom 4:50

But the food replicator, right? Right. So, you know, one of the things that they're talking about now is like, you know, the whole lab grown meat or whatever. Right. It's a big deal right now. I guess so, but they're saying with lab grown meat that they can make meat better than the way it is now. Right. Because they can get the exact fat content, the exact whatever that makes sense. So it would be healthier for you. So no, but so if you have a food replicated, right, you can make like these you can make up shit on a computer and then install and hack it and then put it into the food replicator, and you could be like make this like uh mega like like if you want like a like a like a like a turkey dinner where it's got like a turkey with like 12 legs on it. Oh right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the food replicator do some kind of kind of like like hack it, like you know what I mean? Yeah, you can hack it, you know what I mean?

Keny 5:40

With Bruce Willis, one of my favorite movies. Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis, uh and I don't know, like it was the uh fifth element. Fifth element. Yeah. But like you know when you take the she took the meat out of it, had all these bones and shit out of it.

Tom 5:55

Or you can make like a chili, right? Right that that fucking or a hot sauce that like makes like um what's the hottest one now that uh the Carolina Reapers? It's lab made lab made. Yeah, you can make something that makes Carolina Reapers taste like fucking poblano fucking pepper. But there's no that hot. You know, you could you could hack shit with the replicator. They never do that in Star Trek, but I feel like if you have the replicator machine, you could make I'm sure they could, but I'm sure they have rules on that.

Keny 6:24

That's probably why they don't have it. Because I'm sure doing Star Trek the way they are restrictions on what you can do. I've also seen on Star Trek. But they they talk about it.

Lou 6:32

Especially have one in your house and you can do what you want. But they put their own recipes in. So I've seen them that they do recipes.

Keny 6:37

But now you don't you could just tell it to the computer now. You don't have to do representative.

Lou 6:41

You tell you give the recipe, the idea of the recipe or whatever the case may be to replicate it, and it'll replicate what you tell it to do. So then you would still be able to turn around and say, you know what, give me a five year old.

Tom 6:50

Is it like AI you just type in with the prompt and then you can do it? You could maybe. You could. Sorry. No, no, that's why we that's why we do it. The replicators, like some crazy things that you're gonna do, is a good one.

Animals Versus Every Human Language

Keny 7:02

All right. Would you rather have the ability to speak every language or be able to speak to animals and wife? I want to answer this first. Go ahead. I would say animals. Go ahead. And the reason why is because then I would be able to protect them by letting them know about certain things. Would you rather speak every language? So I would rather speak to animals because then I would be able to warn them and communicate with them and make them understand what the dangers are that they're not paying attention to or understanding. Like fucking squirrels running out of the literature.

Tom 7:33

Speak to any animal or any human. That's that's the that's the option. Right, right, right, right, right. Speak to any human? To every animal.

Lou 7:40

I go animals. Every animal or every human. I go animals. Yes. You go with animals.

Keny 7:45

This is the vegan now. Can we do 50-50? You could do 50-50, I'm sure. Yeah, why not? I would think so. But that wasn't the question. I know.

Tom 7:52

No, it's gotta be animal.

Keny 7:54

You gotta pick one.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Yeah.

Tom 7:56

I'm gonna go animals too. I'm gonna go animals too, because you know what? Because I just want to talk animals.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yeah.

Tom 8:02

But you know what though? You know what though? You know, no, I'm gonna say every human. You know why? Because animals, they they're they're not, they don't have our intelligence. So you're gonna be talking to stuff.

Lou 8:12

We're assuming that. I disagree.

Tom 8:14

Assuming that we don't do because think about it.

Lou 8:17

You talk to dogs, you're speaking to them in our language.

Tom 8:20

They understand if they have the intelligence of a three-year-old, then it's like having a conversation with a three-year-old.

Lou 8:25

But do they really, or they just do shit because they know that's what makes you happy. And that's you know what I mean? I guess. But see, I'd rather pick humans. I'd rather talk to I'd rather know every language. Right. You know, I'd rather do that. I'd rather do that. Only because I feel that you can go anywhere. Well, not so much that you can go anywhere, but I just feel that if you can speak to people that don't know. So the same way you're saying about, you know, speaking to animals, right? It's almost, I mean, I'm not trying to say that people are stupid as such, some are, but you know, that I'd rather be able to speak to humans so this way they can understand where we I am coming from. You know what I mean? What I'm about, who I am as a person, and you know, close the gap of what they misunderstood me to be or people here. Not everybody is an asshole, you know what I mean? Not everybody is thinking, you know, we're looking to you know, beat your brains in, you know what I'm saying? Just be able to just to converse, you know. You think about it, how many countries don't you go to or people have been to and you can't communicate? So then if I could turn around and go to let's say you would go anywhere. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Tom 9:27

Well, we won't have to worry about that soon anyway. Because like I'm telling you, like most people have smartphones now.

Lou 9:31

Yeah. Well, see, it's a good thing you say that, bro. So check this out. One of my staff, he's Haitian. So I've been looking for an app to be able to WhatsApp, no, no, WhatsApp doesn't have uh, I don't think it has uh translation. But the point is that it has some. Okay. There's you have to pay big money for Haitian Creole. Really? And that's what he speaks. So the other day, a vendor came in to mess with the soda machine, you know, to to change the sodas and the waters and stuff in the in the soda machine. Right. He had lost money in it. So he was telling me to ask the dude for the money back. I said, All right, cool. I'm asking, but I didn't understand what he was saying. So I pulled out my handy dandy, you know, what it says is Haitian translator, and I told him to speak into it. So he's speaking to it, and instead of telling me that the machine was that it ate up his his money, it turns around and says, You have beautiful blood in your veins, and you're a great person. No shit. I'm not even kidding you. And then I'm like, uh, this is wrong. Like, this is wrong. And then he's like, and then he starts to do like the money sign for me, and I'm like, ah, he lost money in there. You're trying to get it back. How much? Two, two dollars. Right, yeah. And that's what I ended up doing. So then he can get it.

Tom 10:39

So it's cool though for the translation is the meta glasses. Because so what happens is is you use your phone and the meta glasses, and they talk into your phone and it pipes into your ears. And you talk back and it talks into the Right. So that works on French, that'll work on Spanish. I know it doesn't, yeah. But it won't work on I feel like the m longer this technology's out, the more people it'll definitely be.

Keny 11:05

It'll be like it'll be like the uh universal translator for Star Trek. Yeah, right.

Lou 11:08

It would be on you all the time and you would understand everything everybody's saying. Exactly. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. So it's already you know what? We'll go back one. That's an invention I would like to bring from the field. Oh, yeah, okay, that's great. That'd be perfect. A translator. You know what I mean? Yeah, that would be. And like I said, then even now, you know, so that was a sidebar, sorry, from your question.

Tom 11:26

No, no, that's perfect, though, because it makes sense. Or from his figure's Guide to the Galaxy could stick to the room. Remember that? Yeah.

Lou 11:33

Yeah, I forgot about that movie. That's great. That shit was on the other day, too. But yeah, that would be what I would probably I I'd rather speak to people, you know, all over, be able to just communicate that.

Tom 11:42

That would be an interesting one.

Lou 11:43

Yeah. Yeah.

Tom 11:44

Yeah. That would be helpful. Yeah. That would be helpful when traveling. Because you know what? That's actually a thing that stops a lot of people from traveling, is like they don't want to. Yeah, I got to speak the language. It's hard and then you know, characters. You don't want to insult anybody or do anything that's going to piss them off when you're new country. Not from her, it's just like a translation. It's one of those basic translation books. I guess now you would have a smartphone. But even so, it's a little challenging if you could just speak the language, it would be so much easier.

Lou 12:12

So anyway. Well, well, because there's slangs and stuff. So if you can't do it, yeah, that's true.

Keny 12:16

And there's so many different dialects depending on where you're going.

Lou 12:18

Exactly. You know, like Spanish.

Tom 12:24

Well, yeah.

Lou 12:24

So then it'd be the urban dictionary of uh you know other languages.

Keny 12:28

I think it's they're probably close to having it happening to some point where you'll it'll no matter who's speaking what, it'll just tell you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like C3PO. Right. Yes. It knows how many millions of dialects of just one language, right? Because I know there's this many of those. I'll speak up to blah blah blah blah.

Lou 12:44

Yeah, exactly. Yep. Like you said, Arabic, you know, different dialects of Arabic, you know, said Spanish, Spanish, you know, English, just even English. With things that we say here is different from in the UK. This is not English. That over there is English. You know what I mean? But it can be. Or Jamaican English. Or Jamaican English. Right. What? Jamaican English. You know what I'm saying? Same stuff like that. You know, that's a dialogue.

Keny 13:05

Louisiana?

Participation Trophies And Real Milestones

Lou 13:06

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Creole. Creole. You know, and then like I said, there's so there's a Creole down in Louisiana. Right. And then, like I said, my staff, he's Haitian Creole. Right. So that then it's being able to speak to you know to him and how, you know, and just saying. So, like I said, that would be the part of the one thing I would bring back to it. Yeah, that would be a cool one. I take back with the first one. I like this phone too. The the language is. Definitely more useful. Yeah. Yeah. Controversial one. Oh. You ready? I'm scared. Put your glasses on.

Keny 13:31

I'm gonna go with the light one first. Oh, Jesus. Uh kind of nervous about this. This is the light one. Trophy participation. Okay. Now I grew up where you just didn't get a trophy for showing up. If you were on a team, you were on that team and you lost. Now I'm not talking about little kindergarten stuff. I'm talking about when you're in a league starting from where you're actually playing. Right. And that's anywhere from what? Seven to nine. It starts. Okay. Yeah. Right, right, right. You didn't get a trophy if your team didn't come in. If you didn't, you went to the dinner, you went to the second to third ceremony.

Tom 14:06

And it's funny because people talked about these participation trophies. I feel like in the 90s and dozens. In the 80s, I had it in the 80s, yeah. In soccer, everybody got like a trophy, but like it was just like a trophy of someone kicking a ball. But they still gave the trophy for the winner, too. So everyone got a participation trophy, but then the winners got the winner trophy. So I feel like I don't think that's bad because it's still I feel like that situation works good where it's like, ah, everybody gets a little commemorate commemorative. Right. I'm using the word commemorative. Commemorative item. Yeah.

Lou 14:45

And then the winners get the real trophy. Right. I get you. First, second, and third. You know what I'm saying? And then everybody else gets like a pin, a ribbon, or some shit. Right. Or a certificate. Everybody gets a certain gets for the three. Even the winners usually what happens. So it's just like that's not what I'm saying. Okay, then what are you saying?

Tom 15:03

Where they don't give the winners' trophy and everybody just gets a com commemorative.

Keny 15:06

Well, but now it's more of, you know, when the kids do stuff now, you know, you get the you know, uh you got the you got the this goes in this realm here. This goes in this category. Right, right. All right, what I'm gonna say now. Kindergarten has a graduation, first grade has a graduation, second grade has a graduation. No, no, no, no, no.

Lou 15:22

It's kindergarten to sixth grade. No, no, no. Yeah. Well, all right, yeah, because it before. No, wait, wait, wait, back up. It's the daycare center, is what I'm thinking. So you had the daycare center, you would graduate from the daycare center to I didn't go to kindergarten. I didn't go to kindergarten. I went to the daycare, and then I stayed there. That was like my kindergarten, daycare, kindergarten.

Keny 15:39

Okay, and then I went to first grade. Then you went to first grade. But I was my kindergarten was in my public school. Okay, got you. Right, right, right, then I went well, actually, I actually went to a school before that, but basically that's what it was. Okay. All right. I did actually go to kindergarten in another school, and then I went to public school, right? Okay. So then you went to sixth grade, you graduated. Right. Sixth grade, you graduated to junior high school. And then you went to junior high school. Right. Then you had another graduation. Right, from ninth grade into high school. And then when you went to high school, you had graduation. Your normal high graduation. Right. Okay. All these other ones, to me, that's extra. Yeah. I think it doesn't really Right. In my the way I look at it. For me, winning and losing is important. Not just to go into that category. Like so we're going back to the trophies. Right. It's good to know that you lost. It's also as good as it is to win. Right. And that was what was good about that when we were doing it. And even in Tom's case, like he was saying, that's okay because when you went to the dinner, you know, you sold raffles because usually when you were on a league, you sold raffles for something. And then you went to the dinner, right? Um you a pin or something. You got a pin or you got a certificate or whatever. But you still had right and every and you and you even though people who win would come in the in, you know, the first four or five or whatever it is. Right, right, right. You knew whether it was football, baseball, hockey, uh, bowling, whatever you were in or did, you know, there was a winner or a loser. And I thought that was for that time I thought it was a lot better than it is now. I think now it's it's just, you know, you know.

Tom 16:59

I I I think I don't think it helps, honestly. But that's just how I feel. I think, like I said, if it's a commemorative thing, you know, like everybody gets one, but there's still a winner. Right. But if they remove the whole trophy for people winning, that's kind of stupid. Right. Because then uh what do you have to look forward to? Yeah. Like they they should there should always be a winning trophy. Right. Yes. Because that's the goal. That's the whole point of playing is to win that trophy. Right. And that's that's every sport. I mean, that's the goal. Win the Super Bowl, win the the World Series. You know what I mean? Right.

Keny 17:31

Win the Stanley Cup. Yeah. Like World Cup. It's it's a goal. You're supposed to work for it. But like there's winning and there's losing.

Tom 17:39

I think it's just as long as they don't remove that, if they give everybody a like a our participation trophy or like a commemorative thing, like that's fine. I'm not talking about that. Yeah. As long as they don't remove the trophy, right?

Lou 17:55

The main thing, then I think that if we're going to talk about like saying with school, I don't think there needs to be like every grade, you know what I mean? That it's supposed to be something like this is the milestone. You know, so you got now you're going into junior high school. That's the milestone. So you're graduating from elementary school. Right. Now you're going to high school, now you're graduating from junior high school. So that's the same thing. And then you might go to college. And then you might go to college, so then you would graduate from high school to go to high school. Or trade school, whatever it's gonna do, but you graduated from high school. Your 12 years of school, that's your milestones, and you graduate as such. As far as sports are concerned, yeah, I don't even think I mean I I I think you should be the first, second, and third, and everybody else got the dinner. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's me. I I mean, and I wasn't like the super sports guy either growing up. Like I didn't enjoy playing sports in school and shit like that either. Yeah, I get it. But I'm just like, eh, eh, you don't even know.

Keny 18:43

So maybe you're part of the opera club.

Lou 18:44

Yeah, right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Exactly. Yes, yes. No, you don't deserve one. You know what I'm saying? Look at you don't need all that shit. But that's me, because then that just makes you, to me, uh kind of going with what you're saying, it makes you stronger. Because now you want to strive to be able to be on that stage and you know, hold up that trophy, like I got one. You know what I'm saying? You know, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I'm at.

Keny 19:06

Yeah, I I I think with li it's kind of gone in a different direction. So it doesn't really have, you know, people, well, everybody's gotta get it. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yeah.

Keny 19:13

You know what? No. They're not gonna learn right. Yeah. You know, if you do that, it's screws it up because then they don't understand. You don't have anything to work towards coming to winning. At least that's my method of thinking. And I think it's because I we're we grew up and how we grew up. I think that's something should always stay consistent.

Tom 19:28

Yeah, but there's gotta be a goal. Like that's the whole point, is we're gonna we're we're competing to reach that goal. If you remove the goal, then what the fuck are you doing? This is one of the light questions. One of the light questions. Seriously, if there's no goal, then what is what are you doing? Right, exactly. And then the same thing when you go for a job or whatever you do, right?

Lou 19:49

You know, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. You need to have that. Right. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. All right. All right, go ahead. Nerds go. Is it a heavy question or a few years? No, no, now I'll do a couple of nice regular ones.

Why The 9 To 5 Feels Broken

Keny 19:59

You know, to keep, you know. Yeah. I got nervous. Do we have time? What do we have? We're good. All right. All right. All right. Is the nine to five work structure outdated or is it still the best system we have? No. Oh no, it's outdated. No, it's outdated all the days.

Tom 20:14

Get rid of it.

Lou 20:14

Get rid of it. 10-hour days.

Tom 20:16

40 hours a week? No. Yeah.

Lou 20:18

Well, wait. So I'm saying you want to do that. Four 10 hour days. Four 10-hour days.

Tom 20:22

Oh, I see what you're saying. I say four eight hour days.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

32 hours?

Tom 20:28

That's it? Well, but see, here's what a part of the. See, that's the thing. If they're gonna shift it, they just have to do the calculations to figure like the hour adjust the hourly rate for a 32-hour work week. But anyway.

Lou 20:41

But what would be yeah, but that's uh I don't like that.

Tom 20:44

I 410 is fine to have the extra day, but I'm like I'd rather have four or eight.

Keny 20:52

What do you think, Luke? I would do the four we four-day week and get the extra day. Right. Like you said. Yeah, 10 hours or eight hours? Ten hours. If I had to, I say. Right. So now here's why I'm not saying I would it would be an adjustment for sure because you're used to going home at a certain time, now you're going home later, or you're coming in earlier. I'd probably come in earlier.

Lou 21:11

Instead of coming in at six to six. Right. But now it depends on.

Keny 21:14

You can go uh Monday. Here's the question.

Lou 21:16

I forgot how to count. Sorry guys. Do you remove Friday or Monday? Well, so that's what I'm so that's what I was gonna say next. Can we still do we do we enjoy the Monday to get the Monday off?

Keny 21:25

Or do you want the Friday off? Is that what you say?

Lou 21:28

Now it would be the same difference. It wouldn't matter because you're still gonna so this is where the next part of this Right So it's funny, I was having this conversation at work. So if we do the four 10-hour days and you're not sure if we're gonna do Monday or Friday, whatever, I say 10 hour days only because of deliveries, you know, depending on what job you're in or when things have to get done. Right. You know, so you know, we already know like stores are gonna be open, you know, still the twenty four hours a day, kind of thing go ahead.

Tom 21:53

Well, my thing is is you just stagger the workforce. So you can still if you have four eight hour days. You could still just stagger everything where like, you know, not everybody's working on Monday, now everybody's working on Friday. Everybody's working Tuesday through Thursday. You know what I mean? You could stagger it.

Lou 22:10

And you mean stagger the hours?

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lou 22:12

So then you would do like a say a uh uh eight to four and a nine to five, or you know what I'm saying? Like, how would you do it to get it all in? Because there are things that happen for certain businesses that have to happen, you know, that you need to have somebody there. They go home, they take a nap. Siesta. Yeah, but that right, but that's like at night.

Keny 22:34

I mean, the way they do it is a good the way they do it out there is really cool.

Lou 22:37

So I'd be lying to you if I said I knew exactly what it was, because I don't even know how their stuff works. So I'm only going by, like I said, me thinking here.

Keny 22:44

I think they said that the United States, as far as not that they work harder, the better, but the sense is that they work harder in a negative way. Okay. Not that they're you know, it's beneficial for them. Right. Because we work so many hours already and we're doing what we're doing, and we're not paid enough. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it depends on the situation. Right. But you know, Europe has a better setup that every you know, it depends on what I guess where you are. If it's something you grew up with or you've been around, I guess you know, this is what you're used to.

Lou 23:12

Well, because it's it's again, like I know in certain countries that they have a um you get a mandatory leave, I guess is what it's called. So like every year you have like a month off. You know what I mean? Like you're just away from work, you know, like a paid basis.

Tom 23:24

Oh, they get more vacation days. The worst in the United States has the worst fucking vacation days. Other countries, like I think like Germany, it's like six weeks fucking. Yeah, stuff like that. That's what I'm saying. Everyone it's like that's into the line.

Lou 23:36

You have that one per or those few people because they say so. We work together. Now you have off for these you know next six weeks, that then now we have you know somebody else that's gonna come in and be part of the team while you're gone. And then you go and then I go, you know what I'm saying?

Keny 23:51

That person is eight weeks. So you mean it's a good thing. Well, yeah, I'm just saying, like, you know, just it'd be like a rotating thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lou 23:56

And that person will be able to go and you know, bounce to all the departments or whatever and be able to do it. If we're talking about, you know, like a uh blue. But do we do you think it is out you think it's outdated? Oh, yeah, I think it's outdated all day fucking long. It needs to be changed. Oh, yes. Yeah, it's not good. Eight-hour day, 40-hour work weeks, I think are outdated. Yeah, you know, and interesting things are changing. Yeah, we would have to change up how we do things.

Tom 24:16

I tell you, it definitely improves your like your quality of life because not gonna lie, not gonna lie. I used to fuck off at a job. Right, right. Where I used to like, I worked this job and we like we we we we would a bunch of us would leave like an hour early. Right, right. And that was like that hour made a fucking difference to my life. Yeah, it did. Well, even like now still it's three days a week. Can you imagine having three-day weekends permanently?

Lou 24:42

Uh that would be great. Right. So now but even now think about it like this. It's a lot of people. And if you didn't like hold that to it.

Keny 24:46

And if you alternated every year, go one year it's gonna be Friday off, and the next year it's gonna be Monday off. I'll be like, yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah. I mean, think about it, bro.

Lou 24:54

Think about how many places, how many jobs. And like I said, I'm still in the blue-collar mentality. You know, when you turn around and you get your work done early, then you have the rest of the afternoon off. So then if you gave my boss, so I'm like my staff. If I get if I gave my staff, I was like, yo, listen, you know, you guys, we're gonna, you know, we start work at eight o'clock, you get all this done. This is what our quota is for today, or whatever the case maybe. We have to have all this done, get it done, and we, you know, we're out of here an hour early. We're here if you do it faster than shit and you do it right, because I know everybody's capable of, you know, and this is what we have to get done. Yeah, so then you can do that. So that, you know, again, if you do a four-hour work week and you get what needs to get done. I mean a four-day page. I'm sorry, a four-day work week, and you can get all that has to get done in those four days, then yeah, you know what I mean? I'd rather do that. But it is, it's super antiquated as far as I'm concerned, you know, working like this and you know, so much, there's so much, there's there's so much to do.

Keny 25:48

Especially now, I think the employer has the advantage. Right. When it comes to that, you know.

Lou 25:52

Because it's money, money, money, money, money.

Keny 25:55

And not necessarily for the worker.

Lou 25:57

Yeah, because it's the same thing as getting paid every other week. You get paid every other week, and it's because you know the money kind of like sits there and they do, you know, how the money works in the bank and shit and how we collect it and whatnot, so that then that's why it is you get paid every other week. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. But it's it's it's a monetary issue.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Right.

Lou 26:13

And I'm saying it like that because uh like Tom said too, if we turn around and we work if a 32-hour work week, you know, just stay at eight hours, four days, how are they gonna how do we get compensated? Do prices go up on things?

Keny 26:25

Well, you would think the s the salary would go up somewhat, right?

Lou 26:28

And yeah, to compensate. So that would be, you know, to make the same amount of money, just pay me. I mean, fuck it. I'll stay at the I'll stay at twenty dollars an hour and then you know, just pay me if I was, you know, give me like, you know, the the last eight hours free, you know, that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah. You know, if you wanna put it down like that on paper. But you know, I don't know. Yeah, no, but it is working the the days that we work, I believe for a lot of the stuff is it sucks because you Friday comes, you go home, so you have that time, you're like, all right, I'm off.

Keny 26:55

Then next thing you know, it's something you're like, fuck, I gotta go to work tomorrow. Yeah. That's the first thing you think. You know what I mean? And it sucks.

Tom 27:01

I think that third day would prove it. Yeah, I would think you're right. I think you're right. I would agree.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

All right, cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

When Nostalgia Helps And When It Traps

Keny 27:09

All right. Got one more good one, and then just get it on, baby. All right. All right. Let's see. Is nostalgia overrated, or is the past really that good? I think, I think it always comes back. It does. Clothes, music, hairstyles, even cars, but they might change it up, right? But you know, they'll come bring it back or whatever it might be. Right. So I think in a lot of ways I say yes. Now there's some things that probably shouldn't come back and go, like, yeah, no, there's no reason to bring that back. You know, I can't think of anything double. How's it think? What are you thinking about, Lou?

SPEAKER_02 27:42

So if you guys can help me out here.

Tom 27:45

I think um I think I think nostalgia is good. I don't think it's overrated, but also I don't think it's you know, it is just is what it is. It's nostalgia. I don't I don't I don't think it's overrated, but I don't think it's like underrated either.

Keny 27:58

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I think what happens is I think some people will get so stuck on one thing or some type of nostalgia that they don't move forward. Right. They get stuck in, and it's always, you know. Right. Um but I always thought it was good because, you know, you think about what you're doing.

Tom 28:12

You know what's the best you had, yes.

Keny 28:14

And now and you're saying, oh, that would probably be work better than that.

Tom 28:16

You know what's the true test? Is like when everyone's like say everyone like there's like a movie that you grew up with that everybody likes, right? Then they remake it. And then get someone who grew up in that era. Right. Who didn't see the movie and have them watch the movie. And then they give you their honest opinion if it was good or not.

Keny 28:33

Oh, and see if it's accurate for whatever the thing. Like kind of like Private Ryan. You said people who saw that movie who were in war said it was difficult for them to sit through that movie, especially at the very beginning of that movie. Right, right, right. Oh, yeah. Something kind of like that is what you're saying.

Tom 28:46

No, I mean like um okay, no, like um For instance, like a movie that I grew up with, everybody who grew up in the 80s. Right. Everybody loves the Goonies. Now, what happens if I have someone who grew up in the 80s who never saw Goonies and then they finally watch it and can give you their honest opinion, oh this movie's good, and they're gonna be like, oh, that's kind of cheesy. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, you never know. Is it nostalgia because I grew up with it and you liked it when you grew up, but by today's standards, it was not good.

Keny 29:16

Right. But then again, you never know. There are those people who are unique who like that kind of stuff. I know. I know everything's always new. Nostalgia type thing, and they're like, you know, like there was this kid driving around. I was watching on uh I think it was Instagram, and this guy was driving this car, he's like, this is the uh the uh freestyle kid or whatever it was, and there's this young kid uh from today who's like in his early twenties or something, and he's singing freestyle, word for word, yeah, loving it, you know, and he's jamming in the car and everything, and like you know, well, our kids do that too because they grew up listening to us, you know, liking that. And that's kind of you know the same thing. So yeah, I guess then again, that is nostalgia, right? So in a way, then they keep it alive.

Lou 29:54

So here's where my thumb into all that stuff, right? So is it nostalgia on certain things or is it just nostalgia across the board? No, it's just because music. No, no, no, I'm saying that how we're gonna say it. I know what your question said, but so then is nostalgia. So I don't think nostalgia is overrated for certain topics, for certain ideas, for certain things. So it's not overrated for music. Definitely not for music. You feel what I'm saying? Because music can put you right back into where you're every fucking time. Right. But movies, they're not nostalgic because you know, you don't want to make but no, because you don't really want a remake of Goonies. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather not.

Keny 30:32

That's nostalgic not to remake it, then is what you're saying.

Lou 30:34

To keep it the way it is. Well, I'm gonna say, but then now if I watch it now, I'm watching it, I'm only half watching it because it's not as good or the CGI. I know you're watching this.

Keny 30:43

No, no, I'm telling you, by watching now, I'm like, dude, you watched Star Wars, and that shit was fucking ancient compared to way the story line, because there's other stories that are going along with that.

Lou 30:54

Like there's other shows. So I'm saying make original movies.

Keny 30:57

Right. Just the original movies. Yeah. Okay, you still watch those? Right. Okay. The how old are those movies? They're real 50 years old. Right. Okay. And they were made back in day when when we thought that when they were doing all that stuff. Right. Right? The special effects, right? Special effects compared now to then. Right, right. But still that movie's still good. I guess then maybe it depends on the person who's watching it. You know what? Well, it depends on the movie, too, really, when you think about it.

Tom 31:21

Yeah. You ever get so nostalgic where it's like super fucking specific to something where you listen to something and it reminds you of a super specific thing. You know, for instance, we were um when I was a kid, we were um we went on a camping trip in Boy Scouts. Uh oh. And are you okay? It was a winter trip, and my friend and I had a friend who had a little boom box with him, and the song at the time that was really popular was Loser by Beck. Okay. And he must have played that song because you know, back then fucking people had cassettes or CDs. So like we didn't have a whole list. So he played the song over and over. He came over. I'm a loser, baby. So whatever time I hear that song, I just picture camping in the fucking winter cabin at that fucking and having that song play over and over. Over and over. We're like laying in bed with the lights out and it's like, dun, dun, name.

Lou 32:16

I'm like, geez, shut that shit off already, bro.

Tom 32:19

So like every time I hear that song, I kind of brings me back a little bit to camping in the winter.

Lou 32:24

Yeah. Well, and so because now food. It would food be nostalgic. Yeah, can be. People talk shit to me, bro.

Tom 32:30

Well, I know like something you grew up with, like a dish you grew up with. Yeah, like a certain cake. Like in the movie Rat Tattooy. Yeah. When the food critic eats the thing and he's uh it was like a food that because it was like a popper food, popper food or whatever, but it was like they brought him back, so he gave a good review.

Keny 32:45

Cackle barrel and nothing in crackle barrel like anything nostalgic. Just because they have all the old school candy in there. Oh, yeah. And when you first walk, you're talking about the store. The store itself go in there, they got great weapons. I'm not like down from Tennessee.

Tom 32:57

It reminds me about a loud.

Lou 33:01

I thought you were talking about the menu, I don't know.

Keny 33:02

No, no, but even when you first walk in, you had to get all the candy stuff and all that stuff, old boys and things like that.

Lou 33:08

You know, it's a sketch. Listen, I eat food that my mom used to make when we were kids. Like I said, I have the wife who used to turn them on and do it, you know. And one of my favorite things, bro, people just bug out over this, but it was white rice, uh, red kidney beans, and tuna fish. Okay. I loved that shit, bro. Like babies off the spot. So I used to be red kidney beans.

Keny 33:30

Red kidney beans.

Lou 33:30

Yeah. All right. And that and that would be, man. So nostalgia is underrated. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Here we go. This is a doozy.

Kids Media And LGBTQ Representation

Keny 33:38

I'm trying to figure which one I want to do first. Watch out for that first step. Okay. We are LGBTQ friendly on this podcast, right? We have no prejudice towards anybody or who they are or what they want to do. Yeah. Right? People are make a big deal about when certain parents, say famous people, they say, hey, I'm not going to let my kids. So the question is do you think it's okay to let kids watch certain cartoons and programming that mention LGBT or have it part of the curriculum? Do you Okay, so hang on, hang on, okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

All right.

Keny 34:13

So I'm gonna give you my answer first. So you there were cartoons that are out, there have been celebrities who have already come out that have said they didn't think they wanted their children to watch it at a certain age or they thought it was too early or whatever. My thing is that it's sh it's not a big deal. It's not a uh it's not a reflection on anybody or anything. It's just the parents doing their job saying, hey, I'm not comfortable with yet him or sh them watching that.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Mm-hmm.

Keny 34:41

Kind of I think they're too young or they're not ready for it. Right. When they are, we'll we'll we'll discuss it then. Kind of should be up to the parent, is what I'm saying. Okay. I think the parent should be the one to make that decision, and it shouldn't be made into a big deal. Gotcha. I know that can be because you know, everything is made into a big deal nowadays.

Tom 34:59

I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say into the camera. Nothing makes you gay. Nothing makes you trans. Therefore, whatever kids want to watch, they can watch. I guess it's not gonna make them gay, it's not gonna make them trans. I don't know if that's the fear that people are. I totally agree with you. You know, like we're not going down. Not that that should be a fear, but like I just think so. If kids want to watch something that has people who are gay or people who are trans, like they make it. What I'm saying is if they have I don't think it's a big deal. I think it was um it's just someone it uh it might not identify with you. You know what I mean? It's not gonna make anybody that way. I don't think you know what I mean. I don't think it's like a I think you know what I mean? Like I get that.

Keny 35:42

But I don't think that's what I I don't that's not how I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it.

Tom 35:46

I don't want my kids watching that because I don't want them turning gay.

Keny 35:49

Like, why won't let you watch it? Well, I just doesn't happen. My thing is as a parent, I would be like, well, I'm not comfortable right now with them watching it. When I'm when I feel that's the time is right for them to know or they have the question or whatever, I'm not gonna just throw it that maybe they don't want to have it on or have them watch that certain cartoon. I think that's the parent's prerogative. I I don't think it's a reflection on anything or anybody. It's just a matter of the the how the parent wants to bring up the child at that point in time. Right. So I don't think it's a big thing.

Lou 36:17

I hear you.

Keny 36:17

All right.

Lou 36:17

So I'm gonna say As far as I'm concerned. Looking for this question, because this is a doozy for that. That's why I did it. Right. I believe as a whole, across the board for kids, that kids should just be allowed to be kids. That is what I agree. I don't care about anything other than the kids need to be kids. Kids need to grow up and enjoy and laugh and joke. Right. Like, you know, there are a lot of celebrities who have said that. Right. Kids need to just have fun with other kids. Right. They need to go out and do whatever. Okay. And we shouldn't be just it didn't matter. But you said that parents' choice. It's parents, there should not be a choice. Oh my God. So little Billy or little Tina, she wanted to wear these pants and he wanted to wear that. No, no, I saw that.

Keny 36:59

So we'll take the question out of context. That's not what the question was about. That's not what the question was about. Go ahead. Do you think the parent has the right? Basically, when it comes to LBC to Q, there are programming for kids who are younger to watch. And that's it. Other parents will let their kids watch it, and some won't. My point is that, again, no reflection on anything or anybody, it's just a matter of the prerogative of that parent and say, hey, I'm not comfortable with them this age watching it. When we are ready, we'll introduce it to them. It's up to me. So that particular programming or whatever it is, they're not going to be watching. That's what I'm saying. So it's always up to the parents. And that was the way it was with us growing up, too. I agree with that. No, you're going to bed, you're too young for this, you can't watch this. Right. That was what we grew up. It wasn't the fact that, like, we can go to certain movies or whatever. So again, parents are in control, whether it's right or wrong in your mindset because you're thinking, well, they don't like gay people. Or no, it's not about that. Right. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Okay. Because these people already have friends and people that they know who are.

Tom 38:00

Okay. So the question is the parents should be. And the LGBTQ. The parents should be able to choose whatever they want for them. No, no. That's kind of what I'm saying. I don't think anybody should tell parents that they should or they shouldn't.

Lou 38:10

I won't say so. I think that parents should, like, whether you agree with them or not is irrelevant to be able to do that. I think that parents, like, there should tell parents' age limit for certain things for the kids. You know what I'm saying? Like it shouldn't be a 10-year-old kid watching crazy hook. Yeah, I'm saying, you know, like I said, there's things that I said that the kids should just be kids. You know, don't let them watch, you know, um Saw. You know what I'm saying? At fucking five years old. Like you know what I'm saying?

Keny 38:32

I agree with you 100%. That kind of stuff. And I think that's what a lot of celebrities said too. There were a few celebrities who came out and said that because they have younger kids, and they said, no. I think Stu Dog was one. Um who's the guy who did the the golf and Tiger Woods? Tiger Woods. No, the movie. Oh, Happy Gilmore. Yeah, which is Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler was another. He didn't think it was pro he he you know didn't want his kids. But it wasn't about the fact that they were making the choice because they are the parents. They're saying that. No. Right. My not my child won't, but when, you know, they're they'll they'll look, how did you find out certain things you were growing up? It wasn't because somebody made a big deal about a program.

Lou 39:12

Or you came across a magazine or your parents. Something like that. But again, it's when we were older. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't when we were it wasn't when we were five or six years old watching this stuff, you know what I'm saying? Or that we came across something.

Keny 39:25

Well, because now, you know, but because now everything, you know, everything's more people are more comfortable, people are out, and depending on where they are, right? Right. No, I'm going to try to say and there is certain programming, whether it's cartoons or um or you know, uh program, you know, that teaches on television and everything, and they make sure, you know, they they introduce certain people who are certainly like bur the the drag queens reading books to kids in libraries. See, now this should be the age of it today, as far as I'm concerned. Okay, but so that's another one we could bring into this subject and say, hey, you know what? That's up to the parent. If they're comfortable allowing them to do it, if they're not, then it's on them. You know what I mean?

Tom 40:01

I don't think it's a problem that they're doing it. Right. I just if the parents don't want to have their kids do it, yeah. So the parents are always it's their kids. They choose what they want to do for the kids. I don't think that's an issue. I mean, whether you whether you agree with their choice is it's really unrelevant. That's what it is.

Lou 40:18

It is somebody's business because then your kid influences my kid. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's somebody's business what you choose for your child's. Right. But then your child, so then you think it's okay. Now your kid is talking to my kid, so you just asked Tom, where would you learn it from? And he's like, we're learning from friends. So then I'm saying that then you letting your kid do certain things, you know, as officers. Whether it's watching a movie, where it's a conversation that's being had.

Keny 40:41

Come on, we were growing up, we were watching movies and shit we shouldn't have been watching when our parents were at home. So it wasn't like these kids today aren't gonna do the same shit. But how old were we?

Lou 40:48

So that's what I said. There's an age limit to it. That's what I said before. There's an age limit to it. You know what I'm saying? So that then I don't think that kids at, you know, under 10 years old should be able to, you know, should be watching certain things, should be, you know, dealing with certain things. I think all kids just need to be kids. I'm not saying needs to watch Tom and Jerry because if we're gonna go there then to know Tom and Jerry to me was the greatest thing, but you know, everybody. Right, I get it.

Keny 41:11

But you know, but it was it had to be with the LGBTQ. Yeah, then you know it's just I think at a certain age. It's just about right. Parents need to do what they feel comfortable for their children. Period. End of discussion. Now it's that was really what it came down. But see where it went? Right. So I can either give you one more good one or I could just go right to the next one. Oh, yeah, because we're we're crunching on it.

Gentle Parenting Versus Discipline

Tom 41:34

Right to the next one? Yeah, might as well go to the next conference for one, because I think we're I'm bringing this one up only because um I've noticed this personally, this is uh something I've seen and am de not bewildered in the sense where that I don't understand why it's happening because of the way I did things when I was a parent.

Keny 41:59

So it's another parent thing. Gentle parenting, and I'm talking full-scale, you know, gentle parenting, where the kid has full-blown meltdowns in the middle of the store and loses his shit and you can't get a control, and you're like, hey, Billy, you know, you gotta get up, you know. And my thing is listen, I'm not talking, we're not talking about abuse here. Right. We're not talking about beatings or nothing like that. Okay. I'm talking about discipline. Okay. I feel I think if you go too far on inspection, whether it's gentle parenting and you're going too far, you're gonna lose something. You're gonna get a monster. Something's gonna happen and it ain't coming out right. I've noticed it, I already witnessed it. Right. Okay. I'll give you an example. My wife invited my my son's gonna kill me for this, but he can be mad at me, but this is what it is. And for Haley, too. Um invited them out for dinner for my birthday. Hey, do you wanna come? Blah, blah, blah. They didn't have anybody to watch the kids. And they didn't want to bring them because they didn't know what was gonna happen, what was gonna be the outcome. Right. You know, they're two tornadoes is what he described them as. This is what he said, because they knew that if they there was no guarantee that they were gonna behave and things were gonna go well. Right. So my point, and the reason I'm bringing this up, now I'm doing me first so you guys get my point of view. Right. Wherever I went, whatever I did with my parents, whether we went out to someone's house, dinner, whatever it was, none of that shit happened. Right. And if it did, it was put into check immediately. Right, exactly. All right, like whether it was a way you were spoken to, right, or you were made aware of something, yeah. However, they did it to snap you out of whatever you thought you were gonna go down the mem down that lane or whatever you were gonna try to pull. Wasn't fucking happening. All right. Now, my kids, same thing. They never did that shit when they were growing up. Right. And I brought them up, they never did that. Robbie did it once, he pulled it with me, and I told the story before, I think. We were in James Way in Montecello. And I was with him, it was him and his sister. He was little, he's like three years, three, four years old. Right. And he was being stubborn. And I was like, all right, come on, Rob, let's go. I'm not going by. I said, All right, well, I'll see you later. Come on, Jen, let's go. Yeah. And we kept walking. Just like, Dad, you're not gonna leave myself. He'll be right behind us any second. Five, four, three. Yeah. What do you know? Yeah. He's running right towards me. Because he panicked. Now he's like, exactly. So I think that's where that's lost as far as the gentle parenting. I think gentle parenting is good and being able to communicate and do whatever you got to do. But at some point, if that is not being conveyed and the message is not being received, then you need to be snapped out of it. Yeah. Okay? However, that works for you as a parent. Yeah, right. Tom, I'll let you go first because you have a young your son is how old now?

Tom 44:32

Uh he's eight.

Keny 44:33

Okay. Have you ever dealt with that with him when he was a kid? Did he have full blown-out meltdowns in the middle of a store because he wanted something or he didn't get it or whatever it was?

Tom 44:41

Yeah.

Keny 44:42

He did?

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah.

Keny 44:43

We're going. You know, like, but you but you didn't feed into you didn't feed the fire.

Tom 44:46

I'm talking about parents that just say we're out, leave it. Sorry. Like, yeah. That's just the way it is. You know, like I mean, we're not getting the toy today. Yeah. We'll get another, you know, maybe in the future we'll. I mean, I do soften I'm like, well, maybe in the future we'll get it. Maybe your birthday's come around, Christmas come around. Like Right. You know, like I I I I do.

Keny 45:05

I do see you though, at some point where if he keeps pushing the point, you're gonna be like, I say, we'll give it some other time. Now let's go. You know, yeah. Your voice kind of changes.

Tom 45:12

You know, I have to see me say I'd like to say push you look. I I think some people forget what kids like. They're just because they're younger doesn't mean they can't be reasoned with. So if I say it, I'm like, we can't get it now, but in the future. And then if he doesn't accept that answer, and then I'm like, well, you're gonna have to, you know, there's nothing we can do about it. Like, we're not getting it now. Yeah, and that's the way it is. And I'll say it like that, but like I will say, maybe in the future you will. Maybe Christmas is coming, tomorrow's coming, you know. That's perfect. So you're gonna get birthday because you're gonna be able to do it. Right. You didn't give in. No, no, no, no. But I I tell him, like, you're never gonna get it.

Keny 45:48

Have you ever turned to Tower and said, Yeah. Because I can't go, no, but we can't go because he's just gonna be able to do it.

Tom 45:53

Because I think with kids, I think with kids, they they see things in black and white. Like, if I don't get it now, I'm never gonna get it. Of course. They don't think it's immediate. So you just tell them, like, hey, we might get it in the future. Right. Okay. So that's what I do. Yeah.

Lou 46:04

You? I I I I am with Tom that kids can be reasoned with. I reasoned with my kids. And if they can't be, then you choke them out. That's what you said. No, I mean, I it's it's I I think it's just how you speak to your kids, you know, or or that would be able to get them to whatever. Like you just don't let the kids you check them and like verbally, like you said, you know what I mean? Like, go, whoa, whoa, get off of that. You can't be up there. Do I if I get up out there?

Keny 46:34

No. Because okay, that's so what I'm saying is I think the gentle parent thing is good. Being able to communicate with children is good. Of course that's good, right? You know, we could have used a lot of that when we were growing up.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

Yeah.

Keny 46:47

But I I'm happy for the discipline we got at the same time, even if we had the lack of maybe something else. And I get what they're trying to do because parents today are like, well, we want to be more communicating and we want to do this. But if you go like anything else, too much of one thing, no matter how good you think it's gonna be, it's not gonna work out, especially when someone is growing up, right, and discipline is necessary, or I believe, for a child to be healthy and to understand. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, like uh, for instance, man, my we were watching the kids, Ellie was on a cruise and we had the kids for a couple days, and uh he was acting up, you know, and he was uh being the little shit that he was. Toby was smart, right? He was he went over on sat on the rug right by the door with his blanket. He's like, What are you doing? No. That's what he's like, okay, yeah. And I go back forward and I bust his chops. Whatever. But then he fell asleep there. Because we weren't trying to get him to fall asleep, right? But he was just being whatever. And then he fell asleep. You let him. All right, is that you want to do it? Right, that's different. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you're not fighting or trying to force him to do something. Right. You kind of pick your moments when you know if he's gonna sleep when he'd crash, yeah. The night before, he laid down on the bed, the dog bed that was in the room. He didn't want to go on the bed. You want to lay on the dog bed. So you gave him a blanket. He had spilled, laying on the dog bed watching TV. Right. He was there the whole freaking night. So the whole night in the bed. You know, like you pick your motives. That's what I'm saying. But when you totally if you give in too much or you're more uncomfortable where you're gonna go with them, I think it's it's it's such a it's a too far gone, not too far, it could be fixed, obviously. Right. And obviously, the older they get, the better they're gonna get. But I remember as a child that you we didn't do that. Wherever we want. Now, when I was young, young, I'm sure that if I did try to pull any shift, whatever I can't remember from two, you know, like because you only can remember so far back. Right. I know and my parents and my mother, that shit was nipped in the bud immediately. Right, right. Like, yeah. And it was a different time from when we grew up. Right. But I think again, if you go too far with the yelling and screaming, and that's way that's not not healthy at all. And I think if you go too far this way, that's also not healthy. And you kind of got to get in the middle and not forget what was taught to you. Right. Because there's always positive negatives I look at it as far as definitely as uh being brought up. Don't you agree? Like even our situations. We all have something we could probably talk about from our childhood that we didn't like and whatever happened. Right. But at the same time, we're thankful for the other things that did happen or how we were brought up. Because I'm glad that was like that, especially because a lot of things that are going on today versus the way we grew up, right? Yeah. But again, that goes back to what we were talking earlier. So I thought by bringing this up, it'll be a good one. Yeah, that was cool. It was a those are some pretty good ones.

Lou 49:26

Yeah, I give you that.

Keny 49:26

That was I made sure to think about them and made sure it didn't get, you know, I didn't want to go down the Yeah, no, no, yeah.

Lou 49:31

No. That those are good ones. Those are good ones. So Tom's like Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was looking, we were we we win it. Yeah, no, we're not. No, this is where we usually define.

Keny 49:42

Only lately because we, you know, all the stuff we've got to do. That's right, because all that. Right. But yeah, yeah. I thought, dude, I think I'm gonna do this every so often. Yeah. And if you guys feel like you want to do it too, like if you want to just if I come up with a couple topics. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's good. Mark was the one. Mark, shout out to you, by the way. Thank you. He was the one who said, like, these guys never really debate and get into anything. So hopefully maybe this uh helped them out. And he enjoyed it. They'll enjoy this. I feel like we agreed on a lot of stuff, though.

Tom 50:07

But yeah, we did and we didn't, I think. Yeah, yeah.

Lou 50:09

Yeah, yeah. It's a we agreed on on the heated debate. We heat. We agreed on the f on the end of it, but is how we got to how we get to it. We all navigated in our own way. Yeah, navigating. I got a quota for you, but if I say I'm out there, navigating. The way we navigated through, the way we do the show.

Final Thoughts And Keep Debating

Keny 50:24

That's fucking awesome, man. Anyway, I had a good time, guys. Yes, for sure. This was fun.

Lou 50:29

We'll do it again. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Good shit. So thank everybody for listening. Watch, like, follow, subscribe, all that other good stuff. So love, peace, and hair, Grease. Live long and prosper, and keep debating.